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Matt K said:
What will stop them from paying off someone to put their kids in a winning team? When the kids that actually made the effort to get the team to the next level gets kicked out.
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College doesn't have promotion and relegation.

That aside, you seem to think your situation is unique, but it happens all the time with every club at every level (from AYSO to professionals). When a team moves up in class, it needs better players to compete. It also attracts better players, which makes it tough for players near the bottom who often get cut.
 
focomoso said:
College doesn't have promotion and relegation.

That aside, you seem to think your situation is unique, but it happens all the time with every club at every level (from AYSO to professionals). When a team moves up in class, it needs better players to compete. It also attracts better players, which makes it tough for players near the bottom who often get cut.
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Would something terrible happen to the club if they allowed the players that got them to move up a class to stay on the team for another year?
Wouldn't you think that would be a proper way of treating kids. I hope I am being clear that we are talking about 12 year old kids.
I would definitely agree with you if they were adults.
 
wheresourfield said:
post the video or a link, enough of us will watch it.
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Matt K said:
Would something terrible happen to the club if they allowed the players that got them to move up a class to stay on the team for another year?
Wouldn't you think that would be a proper way of treating kids. I hope I am being clear that we are talking about 12 year old kids.
I would definitely agree with you if they were adults.
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To me it depends on the coach's goals. If he is trying to develop while also being competitive and win, then he may change out players if a better one comes around.

If just trying to develop/have fun and don't care AS much about winning, then sure maybe keep the same players and move up.

Key is don't ever put all your faith in anything club, you will always be disappointed.

Just find a good coach like others have said and get your son to improve whether it's with ayso or not. Move on and don't stress too much about the 6 principles.

Maybe get a private trainer for him and join a rival club in silver. Let your son use this as motivation IF he wants and show the coach he made a mistake and get better.
 
OCsoccerdad7777 said:
To me it depends on the coach's goals. If he is trying to develop while also being competitive and win, then he may change out players if a better one comes around.

If just trying to develop/have fun and don't care AS much about winning, then sure maybe keep the same players and move up.

Key is don't ever put all your faith in anything club, you will always be disappointed.

Just find a good coach like others have said and get your son to improve whether it's with ayso or not. Move on and don't stress too much about the 6 principles.

Maybe get a private trainer for him and join a rival club in silver. Let your son use this as motivation IF he wants and show the coach he made a mistake and get better.
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Thank you all for your feedback. I hope I was not that much of a headache for all of you. I am very very sorry trying to make my points and I got great advice from most everyone in return. If any parents that need information about AYSO United South OC just reply to my posts and would love to share the truth with you from my experience this past year, it was not that bad but it had a kick in the bud at the end, LOL. But everyone here has been helpful to me.
 
Matt K said:
Would something terrible happen to the club if they allowed the players that got them to move up a class to stay on the team for another year?
Wouldn't you think that would be a proper way of treating kids. I hope I am being clear that we are talking about 12 year old kids.
I would definitely agree with you if they were adults.
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When your kid made the team, he took another kid's spot. The coach thinks your son will develop better playing with the bronze 05s, which will give the 06s an extra spot to develop another player. I see that as AYSO doing exactly what it's supposed to do: developing both your son and the other player who takes his spot.
 
focomoso said:
When your kid made the team, he took another kid's spot. The coach thinks your son will develop better playing with the bronze 05s, which will give the 06s an extra spot to develop another player. I see that as AYSO doing exactly what it's supposed to do: developing both your son and the other player who takes his spot.
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Thank you for the reply. As I mentioned on an other post 4 players had left the team so my son was chosen to play on the team. If we had left the team I belief the coach had every right and could have picked another player, but in this case he should have had the chance to play another year since they did not move to a higher class in the 06s in the previous years.
It is just logical and ethical to give kids that courtesy whether they are good or bad once they are in a team.
Then the following year definitely it would have been the coaches decision to cut anyone he wanted if they did not move to a higher class.
My point is it is all about the timing of a decision we make as adults for kids.
 
Matt K said:
Thank you for the reply. As I mentioned on an other post 4 players had left the team so my son was chosen to play on the team. If we had left the team I belief the coach had every right and could have picked another player, but in this case he should have had the chance to play another year since they did not move to a higher class in the 06s in the previous years.
It is just logical and ethical to give kids that courtesy whether they are good or bad once they are in a team.
Then the following year definitely it would have been the coaches decision to cut anyone he wanted if they did not move to a higher class.
My point is it is all about the timing of a decision we make as adults for kids.
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How about that video you wanted to post?
 
Matt K said:
Then the following year definitely it would have been the coaches decision to cut anyone he wanted if they did not move to a higher class.
My point is it is all about the timing of a decision we make as adults for kids.
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Isn't this what happened? The season ended and your kid was cut. I'm not getting even what your complaint is. Competitive teams cut kids. If they didn't, they wouldn't be competitive.
 
Eagle33 said:
How about that video you wanted to post?
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I emailed it to MWN please ask him about my sons ability, what he wrote to me is "From a skill perspective, he appears to have the same level of skill as his teammates." Sorry I can not share it with every one and he was the first one to provide me with his email and was a silver level member on the forum so I trusted him.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
The one overwhelming advise from people on this forum is to make your team decision based on the coach, not the club.

You need to have a coach that you trust, and in return he believes in your kid. It sounds like you have neither in this situation. It's time to move on and find a better situation for your kid. It really doesn't matter the club in question is AYSO United, CSL Flight 1, or Manchester United (see Pogba vs Mourinho).

Best of luck.
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This is great advice. Just like a school its all about the teacher you have not about the rest. Choose a coach that nurtures and challenges your child in an appropriate manner, believes in them and gets to know them, and challenges them to perform better. We just left a coach that couldn't do any of the above.
 
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