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I don't see how they would without the United support background. Requires a DOC, registrar, tryout system, support mechanism, HR, training, insurance. Why would they do that for just a handful of slots? My assumption was they go with ASC. Also with the true MLS academies build out (eg san diego joining) they'll be less and less of a need for MLS academies to rely on MLSN for fodder (it will still happen because of US travel distances, but it will be less important)...EA2 will effectively become fifth tier. There's not enough room in the eco system on the boys side for ECRL, E64, and EA2...at least 2 of these will be gone in the next 5 years as there's not enough bang for the buck for the fees charged and travel for kids to play flight 5 just to be eligible for a high school team. I agree with you: locked out of letter league and without the draw from the core superstars I don't see how ASC makes it. The future is either the Ole model (focus exclusively on youngers with a pathway to letter league placement....kind of like pre academy...but that requires an alliance with a real national based club system like Albion and Albion might ultimately just purchase them which would be the exit strategy) or getting higher letter league (which again, SoCal Elite enters the building)...nothing else saves it.
You don’t think they will get MLS next AD? They seem to give MLS next AD to just about anyone. If they get AD, they can tell the parents they have the full pathway. They may just survive.
 
You don’t think they will get MLS next AD? They seem to give MLS next AD to just about anyone. If they get AD, they can tell the parents they have the full pathway. They may just survive.
There’s no rhyme nor reason why anyone gets mls next ad let alone mlsn. Bulls? Juventus? Lasc after going in with e64? Oaks (at least I get the let’s stick it to eagles thing)? But at the same time Santa Monica (same coverage areas as Juventus….punishment to avoid too many Albion’s?) deserved it from an org point of view (already ea), SoCal elite from a merit point of view, and downtown la from a coverage/dei point of view. Depends who they have in their back pocket I suppose and they’ll need to drop “everyone plays”. How good are they with politics?. 🤷‍♀️. Are they capable of the dog and pony show the bulls pulled out when they got mlsn?. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ in whose backyard is the region that would go for it? 🍿🍿🍿

Ps this last part is the most legally problematic. Technically it’s a potential legal issue if clubs are colluding with other clubs not to admit direct competitors with their geographic area and while it’s not proof of anything there do appear to be regions of responsibility: oaks Ventura county, the bulls took on east San Fernando valley, Albion riverside. The main thing that messes with this is the former Laufa now Albion…was originally based in the area around Griffith park but has seemed to drift into Downey and then towards Long Beach.
 
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I just don’t see them adding all these clubs and leaving out AYSO United. Maybe only a few of their branches get it. The fact that United left AYSO tells me they have something already in the works.
 
There’s no rhyme nor reason why anyone gets mls next ad let alone mlsn. Bulls? Juventus? Lasc after going in with e64? Oaks (at least I get the let’s stick it to eagles thing)? But at the same time Santa Monica (same coverage areas as Juventus….punishment to avoid too many Albion’s?) deserved it from an org point of view (already ea), SoCal elite from a merit point of view, and downtown la from a coverage/dei point of view. Depends who they have in their back pocket I suppose and they’ll need to drop “everyone plays”. How good are they with politics?. 🤷‍♀️. Are they capable of the dog and pony show the bulls pulled out when they got mlsn?. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ in whose backyard is the region that would go for it? 🍿🍿🍿

Ps this last part is the most legally problematic. Technically it’s a potential legal issue if clubs are colluding with other clubs not to admit direct competitors with their geographic area and while it’s not proof of anything there do appear to be regions of responsibility: oaks Ventura county, the bulls took on east San Fernando valley, Albion riverside. The main thing that messes with this is the former Laufa now Albion…was originally based in the area around Griffith park but has seemed to drift into Downey and then towards Long Beach.
Grace....rumors swirling that Culver City FC is still in the hunt for being added to MLS2 for 26/27.....

Mind blowing how these decisions are being made....
 
AYSO core is $180 for 11 games, plus another 10 games if you go deep into post season tournaments. Their extra team is about $600 a year and the level of play is equivalent to socal flight 1. Their extra coach probably cares more than your typical club SoCal flight 1 coach. AYSO does more for soccer in this country more than all the clubs combined.
I tend to agree with the last statement, particularly as a "cultivate interest" program, but I'd quibble with some of the details and implications before it.

AYSO Core is inexpensive, but at least in some areas, is very marginal at higher ages, and very hit/miss even at lower ages. Both my kids did AYSO Core, and the experiences were highly contingent on the volunteer coaches and team enthusiasm. Additionally, there will be kids who do not play soccer on each team, and the experience for anyone skilled (even at a young age) will be pretty marginal. I would not recommend Core for anything other than a casual exercise program, beyond around 8-10.

Extra is better, but not SoCal flight 1 level in many cases. My son also did Extra pre-covid; we were around a flight 2-3 level, I'd estimate. We absolutely had some marginal kids on the team as well, and this was impacted by lack of options. The coach may care more, but there's no world in which our experience was remotely close to a high flight SoCal League team. All Stars teams are generally better than Extra, at least in our area.

United has been better in some cases, depending on the teams and regions (ie: there are United teams which are on-par with every SoCal League flight). But also, hit and miss depending on the area (in our area, highest level United team was SoCal F2).

Side note: If AYSO hadn't been so risk-averse coming out of Covid, and resumed their program a year earlier when everyone else did (particularly since all their activities were outdoors), we might still be playing Extra/United. We mainly went to club because it was the only option at the time, and I know many families in the same situation. AYSO really shot themselves in the foot with that obvious blunder, and probably set back their program significantly as a result. The AYSO leadership is 100% to blame for that failure, though.
 
Grace....rumors swirling that Culver City FC is still in the hunt for being added to MLS2 for 26/27.....

Mind blowing how these decisions are being made....
I think there's a lot of perceived value for a club, in terms of getting into one of the higher level leagues (both for attracting and retaining quality players). I know there's an interview and evaluation process, but I don't know the specifics.
 
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