Arsenal FC (Girls) - New ECNL Director
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The likelihood of a new team in the area will hinge on RB's ability to close a deal sooner rather than later. If clubs just wait him out, his players and families will have a decision to make as teams get locked in for next season.
Chances are those players either gravitate back towards Arsenal under the new leadership or towards Legends if staying local to the IE is the plan.
@Rev234 , you guys have a loaded roster on the IE Surf G03 Premier team, any chances you have room for some of the Arsenal girls? Anticipate a limited or big turn over from your current roster?
Make sense why more Arsenal Girls have been showing up to the Legends Academy practices ...they sure ain't shy to show that they are coming from Arsenal having their practice shirts on them.
Multi Sport
DA
This thread... wow.
To say IE Surf is coming off a solid season would be an understatement. They dominated CSL, CRL and had solid showings at National Cup and FWR. Hard to believe any big turn over with that group. Just got to keep those DA and ECNL flies from buzzing too loud in their ears! Lol.
They had quite a few girls who had the DA flies in their ears at tryouts when DA first launched last year but it didn't pan out and DAs loss was IE Surf's gain.
IE Surf rolled deep with 18 players this season from what I could see and word is they may look to add an 03 that is playing on the 02 IE Surf team.
With the dominant season and opportunities now afforded them with the exposure that comes with, you have to think they become a viable "2nd Option" behind Legends DA? Just below Arsenal ECNL or on Par?
This will really be the first team that Ted Small, and in particular Cle Kooiman can dust off those contacts and push for placing those kids to some of the schools Cle placed kids at when he was at Arsenal.
Continued success for those IE Surf players, many of which my 04 DD played with prior to the age group shift. It's been fun watching their journey and rooting them on.
Please clarify. Are you saying ECNL is behind DA or just these specific teams? Because if you meant the former, you've just created another shit storm of crazy parents.
The DA vs ECNL conversation can be made at high level, and I won't even go there. Whatever works for the individual player, I'm all for it, regardless of platform.
I was speaking more to the comparison of the clubs in the Inland Empire specifically the 03 age group, in this case Legends DA, Arsenal ECNL, and IE Surf CSL-Premier
From experience, my DDs have played at all 3 clubs. The narrative I have seen is that in the IE, Arsenal had the leg up on the others because they had the platform in ECNL prior to DA. Legends was the "not so little" engine that could and despite not having ECNL, placed kids into college and competed at the highest levels in their platform, i.e. National Cup / National League / Etc.
Outside of those two, IE Surf was an alternative for those players that didn't fit at the other two clubs for one reason or another. The decision between Arsenal and Legends essentially came down to the label. That all changed when Legends got DA as there was an exodus from Arsenal at all age groups and Legends not only had the track history without the label, but imagine what they could do now as part of the "inner circle".
Fast forward to today and IE Surf not only has the 03 team, but a few others that have followed suit and now compete in CRL /National Cup / Etc. and aspire to be more than just the "other guys". IE Surf has applied for ECNL the past few years and has also been in discussions to leverage ECNL in other ways to support their players.
So speaking to @equipo 's point of how successful IE Surf 03s have been without DA or ECNL, does that team now become a viable option for the players that don't fit at Legends or Arsenal? Anyone who has been through the process will tell you that there are different routes to get your kid to the next level and it really depends on what's the best fit for the individual.
In my personal opinion if my DD was an 03, Legends would be my 1st option. Option 2 would be IE Surf because my DD could never play for RB, and therefore Arsenal would not be an Option 3.
With the change in leadership at Arsenal, I think parents will be intrigued and the narrative regarding Arsenal can now change. RB was polarizing and it was "Love Him or Hate Him", there really wasn't an in between.
Anyhow, I'm beyond rambling as I take a break in between some late night work.....Now I patiently await @RBISARATBASTARRD and @Kongzilla to get in the forum cage again and go at it!
GoWest
GOLD
[QUOTE="Technician72, post: 206540, member: 24"IE Surf has applied for ECNL the past few years and has also been in discussions to leverage ECNL in other ways to support their players.[/QUOTE]
Great 'late night' post @Technician72!
Does Surf ingesting WC have any effect on IE Surf? If not, are ECNL 'leverage' discussions taking place now?
Great 'late night' post @Technician72!
Does Surf ingesting WC have any effect on IE Surf? If not, are ECNL 'leverage' discussions taking place now?
Why are your DDs switching clubs so oftyen?
Don't know about Tech but there are many scenarios where parents decide to switch clubs - not everyone has a simple situation (ethical and decent club management, solid coach that is invested in your DD, right level of competition, good mix of players that your DD enjoys playing with, cool parents on the sidelines, good geography, etc)
With regard to the "right level of competition," the player outgrows the club/team and the next level maybe full in the club. In my case, my player has played on 3 different clubs in 3 different years.
- Year 1 - Flight 3 playing his age (2003) with decent GK coaching;
- Year 2 - Flight 2 playing 1 year up (2002) with mediocre at best GK coaching;
- Year 3 - Flight 1 playing 2 years up (2001) with great GK coaching.
- Next Year - We will probably need to move clubs and down because his current teammates (HS seniors) will age out and there is no younger teams he can play on.
All movement between clubs for them was very early on, U7-U9, and thankfully we learned some valuable lessons before it was too late.
Both DD's have been in stable situations ever since as we applied those lessons learned.
In hindsight the one thing I would have changed is to have been more flexible in regards to having them at different clubs based on their individual situations. Those first few years they moved together out of convenience.
Phineas&Ferb
BRONZE
Are all of the girls leaving Arsenal? Isn’t August 1st around the corner and isn’t that the deadline for all players to be locked down at a club. I know pretty late but just wondering
This is exactly what every PARENT wants. Sometimes the parents want it more than the kids.
No Shin Guards
SILVER
Are they supposed to play at the Surf tournament, do they have enough players to do so ? What a mess for the girls and parents, and yes parents all the times wants more than the kids.
AZsoccerDad
BRONZE
this was a fun thread...love the "Billion Dollar" deals comment...that makes me chuckle
Arsenal 03's are listed for Surf Cup as "Strikers FC - IE ECNL 03 Brown".
RB has been doing everything to keep the team together, but securing fields has been a challenge from what I hear.
RB has been doing everything to keep the team together, but securing fields has been a challenge from what I hear.
How is he using ECNL? wasn’t that given to Strikers North?