You had me convinced until "all natural shot similar to the steroid shot but its all natural".
Anyone tried platelet rich plasma therapy??
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You had me convinced until "all natural shot similar to the steroid shot but its all natural".
Not_that_Serious
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I exactly. Crack and pop adjustment guy or dude at kiosk at mall drive me nuts. My wife will literally make me walk really far from them because she knows I can’t reaist asking them technical questions in front of people - yeah it’s a bad habit but some of the crap they tell people is dangerous. Chiros I visit won’t even do “adjustments” because it doesn’t cure root of the problem - but know other chiros use it as a weekly/biweekly source of income. Patch them up enough to bring them back but not give them a path to actually solve the problem
Not_that_Serious
GOLD
All these types of shots are intrusive and don’t solve problems. At least from my experience. Cortisone for example, will reduce inflammation, but doesn’t come at zero-cost. Cortisone weakens collagen, thus it weakens soft tissue - thus it weakens tendons and ligaments. anyone who says they can isolate an area to administer a shot, and not weaken surrounding structures, they are not being truthful. As mentioned, it’s a hammer on a tomato approach. In emergency, might need it, but not when it’s a long occurring issue.
Surfref
PREMIER
The Navy used PRP back in 2001 as part of my recovery from extensive shoulder reconstruction after a repelling accident. It seemed to help get me through some mild impingement and tendinitis pain that developed about three months after the surgery. I remember having to sign a bunch of paperwork because they were using the PRP as part of a clinical study.
My advice would be to find a good physical therapy clinic that routinely works with youth and adult athletes. In San Diego I would suggest Rehab United. They have done wonders for me and my DD when we have been injured or recovering from and injury.
My advice would be to find a good physical therapy clinic that routinely works with youth and adult athletes. In San Diego I would suggest Rehab United. They have done wonders for me and my DD when we have been injured or recovering from and injury.
I get it , my verbiage is off on that one. So instead of doing a cortisone shot, they have a all natural anti inflammatory shot that worked amazingly for me , I didn't want to do cortisone and this alternative has a very good track record with athlete's.
sorry
Not_that_Serious
GOLD
Just call people. Visit offices. Ask questions. At worst you lose some time. In last 20 years my opinion on much of the medical industry has changed. I know when my arm was useless I was trying just about everything. I had to push past what I thought I knew and who I could trust. Now a days I start with most conservative approach. Manipulation and stretching before going and getting injections or surgery. Even if took me going through dozens of people to figure out who could actually help. Thinks most people posting about people/places they are comfortable with. You might not be and find another place, just good to look under every rock possible considering you are frustrated to the point of posting on a youth soccer board
Its a plant based shot , I'll call him and get the information today, give me a hour or so---I don't remember if it was Sarafin , but its natural , not a man made substance. Comes from the earth, used for inflammation and pain. worked in my hip beautifully.
Cortisone was discovered as a natural substance in adrenal glands and the discoverers of its effectiveness at the Mayo Clinic won the 1950 Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine.
Serapin or Traumeel is what they used on me and it worked !!
Homeopathy?
younothat
PREMIER
Serapin or Traumeel is what they used on me and it worked !!
Trigger Point injections? I've had some with Trameel and its was a good alternative to the steroidal anti inflammatory drugs that are used.
Finding the right combination of things sometimes can be a challenge;
Regular chiropractor visits + Acupuncture + trigger points using lidocaine and going through PT helped be a bunch with my Piriformis hip syndrome but had to use a different combo on my degenerative disc disease
The Longwave Therapy somebody mentioned with Tecar helped my with a wrist/thumb problem but wasn't effective when I used it on my back for example.
Active Release Therapy yeah if you have some tolerance for pain, which I do so that can be beneficial but I've never really responded to Cortisone for example so I think everybody and situation can be different and we all respond differently so no one size works for all IMO.
One thing that works for me that I use for sore muscles and/or inflammation are CBD bath bombs.
Don't forget to treat your mind also; metaphoric mediation for pain is another tool to try, works sometimes but takes patience, practice, and some faith.
I don't see myself as broken down, although my medical charts and insurance carrier might say otherwise I just have to watch amount of physical activity I do sometimes, stretch 3x times a day and able to do most things besides 3 hours of golf, man I miss that but at least I played for years and can still drive the cart of the younger ones.
agree, thank you. This has been a long term issue but because of my DD age I think its been a moving target. Will give them all a call
thank you, willing to try cryotherapy--or just learn more about it. We have done laser as well...
meatsweats
SILVER ELITE
DD had grade 2 tear in MCL and Patella tear. Had one PRP injection directly to both tears and 1 each around the tendons. $600 for both tears. Was back on the field in competitive showcase psay, 4 weeks. Granted, she also has an amazing PT and worked her ass off to get back, but she says her injured knee feels stronger after PRP than her other. She had one injection.
On side note, she's also used prolotherapy injections on a back fracture and it was also a quicker and stronger recovery. Took two injections for that one. Worth every penny.
thanks for sharing. a friend had prolotherapy on her back as well with favorable results
meatsweats
SILVER ELITE
We used Regenexx and insurance will cover your visit and consult, so it's worth that. The injections are not covered, but they work with you and we bought three for her back and since she only needed two, they let us save the one. It worked out when she hurt the knee. They were nice enough to take that last injection and use that for her MCL/Patella. Plus they did an ultrasound to see the tear better than MRI. We knew then it was really a grade 2 and that was not something the MRI alone showed.
****UPDATE**** I have done a lot of reading, research and talked to a lot of people. Spoke with and had visits with a surgeon, her PT, and 2 chiros who do ART as well as other patients that have had PRP done successfully (one who was heading in for shoulder surgery). The end result and decision after each examined her, looked at X-rays and MRI was that the PRP injection is a very low risk procedure and, although cannot be guaranteed to be successful, very well worth it to try. So my DD will play majority of high school then have it done at the end of the month. Hopefully it helps her return stronger, although probably more out of shape, to the last part of her DPL season.
For those interested will update how she progresses. Her diagnosis is osgood schlatter with patella tendonitis. Although the surgeon said it won't do anything about the osgood he believes it will help with healing of the tendonitis which is what he thinks is the main source of her pain. Also the good news is growth plates are closed so he thinks she is on the backside of this.
For those interested will update how she progresses. Her diagnosis is osgood schlatter with patella tendonitis. Although the surgeon said it won't do anything about the osgood he believes it will help with healing of the tendonitis which is what he thinks is the main source of her pain. Also the good news is growth plates are closed so he thinks she is on the backside of this.
I totally forgot to follow up on this.
Spoke to my folks who have had a few different procedures done.
Mom had platelet therapy. Said it was the best thing ever. Fixed her knee to 100% (don’t know the initial issue)
Dad had stem cell injection in his shoulder. He didnt notice much difference.
Mom had a stem cell injection a few days ago in her shoulder. The only thing she noticed is the lidocaine made her drunk.
Spoke to my folks who have had a few different procedures done.
Mom had platelet therapy. Said it was the best thing ever. Fixed her knee to 100% (don’t know the initial issue)
Dad had stem cell injection in his shoulder. He didnt notice much difference.
Mom had a stem cell injection a few days ago in her shoulder. The only thing she noticed is the lidocaine made her drunk.
thank you for the good information!!