what liberty do guns give us? and what is the Europe quote about? they are disarmed, so somehow a "standing army" rules over them? what are you talking about? you are not dumb, but those cheesy platitudinous quotations add up to nothing.
An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America
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"... these people are simple in weapons…. With fifty men I could subjugate them all and make them do everything that is required of them." Christopher Columbus, letter to Queen Isabella, 1492.
Do you know the difference between a militia and a standing army, as the writers of the Constitution and Bill of Rights understood them?
What arms could Samuel Adams have been keeping?
Sheriff Joe
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Nice try, you in no way answered the question, how much do illegal alien criminals[that means every illegal in the USA] cost the USA, welfare, medical, incarceration and education.
To balance the books, how much do they benefit the USA in productivity and taxes paid?
Sheriff Joe
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What would the revolution have been without guns?
Sheriff Joe
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Zero.
Bruddah IZ
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The criminal illegal aliens?
Bruddah IZ
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Too naive X10.
He's talking about Native American's...Indians if you will. They had clubs, bow & arrows and rocks.
You can't really be this stupid...can you?
Yes .
You apparently don't.
Sheriff Joe
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What is a weapon of war? Fists, stones, spears, sling shots, bow and arrows, knives, which ones?
Sheriff Joe
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Do you?
Yes.
Ignoramus.
Apparently how?
He probably had the best firearms of the time. He was part of the Boston Tea Party and was a member of the Massachusetts convention to ratify the Constitution.
He knew that a disarmed population was easily ruled over, controlled and terrorized.
From wikipoo:
The Brown Bess Musket muzzle-loading smooth bore musket was one of the most commonly used weapons in the American Revolution. While this was a British weapon, it was used heavily by the American Colonists. This musket was used to fire a single shot ball, or a cluster style shot which fired multiple projectiles giving the weapon a "shotgun" effect. There were two variations of the Brown Bess: the Short Land Pattern and the Long Land Pattern. The Short Land was shorter, less bulky, less heavy than the Long Land. Most American fighters implemented the Long Land Pattern.
Large numbers of Charleville Model 1763 and 1766 muskets were imported into the United States from France during the American Revolution, due in large part to the influence of Marquis de Lafayette.[6] The Charleville 1766 heavily influenced the design of the Springfield Musket of 1795.
Long rifles were an American design of the 18th century, produced by individual German gunsmiths in Pennsylvania. Based on the Jäger rifle,[3] long rifles, known as "Pennsylvania Rifles", were used by snipers and light infantry throughout the Revolutionary War
Colonial Firearm Regulation
An examination of the Colonial statutes reveals that, contrary to Bellesiles‟s claim of distrusted and disarmed freemen, almost all colonies required white adult men to possess firearms and ammunition. Some of these statutes were explicit that militiamen were to keep their guns at home; others imply the requirement, by specifying fines for failing to bring guns to musters or church. Colonies that did not explicitly require firearms ownership passed laws requiring the carrying of guns under circumstances that implied nearly universal ownership. None of the Colonial militia statutes even suggest a requirement for central storage of all guns. None of the Colonial laws in any way limited the possession of firearms by the white non-Catholic population; quite the opposite.
http://www.tulprpc.org/attachments/File/Colonial_Firearms_regulation.pdf
Wez
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I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for a nutter to actually explain something to you.
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
– Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
– Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776