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An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America
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California Moves To Let Schools, Co-workers 'Red Flag' Dangerous Gun Owners
Lawmakers in the California Assembly voted Monday to advance a bill that would authorize employers, co-workers and school personnel to request the temporary confiscation of guns from individuals determined to pose a danger to themselves or others.
The legislation, AB 2888, would build on California’s existing “red flag” law, passed in 2014 following a deadly shooting spree in Isla Vista. The 22-year-old gunman in that case had reportedly exhibited a number of warning signs before killing six people, and then himself, in the rampage.
The current red flag law gives family members, roommates and law enforcement officers the power to petition the court to remove firearms from individuals who have displayed dangerous behavior. Judges then hold a hearing to determine whether to order the gun owner to surrender their firearms and stay away from all guns, typically for a year, although the restraining orders can be extended beyond that based on additional evidence.
The new bill would expand the list of people who can file for such restraining orders to include a subject’s employer and co-workers and the staff of a high school or college that the person has attended in the last six months.
“We’re grappling with this issue of gun violence as a nation,” bill sponsor Assemblyman Phil Ting (D) told HuffPost. “I’ve never said this is a panacea, but it’s just one of many solutions we have to offer.”
The state’s courts have issued around 200 restraining orders to prevent gun violence since the original law went into effect in 2016, according to Ting. He said his bill would provide additional opportunities to catch troubling behavior.
“Once you move away from home and you’re an adult, you may not spend time with your family,” said Ting. “You may not have much interaction with law enforcement, but chances are if you’re working, you see your co-workers every day for eight-plus hours a day, and you’re with them not just in the work environment but socially.”
Ting pointed to the February massacre in Parkland, Florida, as a case in which a red flag law ― and specifically this sort of broader statute ― might have been able to save lives. Although the suspect in that shooting, a 19-year-old former student at the high school, had attracted the attention of local authorities on numerous occasions before his attack, school staff had also reported concerning behavior as far back as 2016. Florida is among the nine states with a red flag law and one of the four to have ushered through legislation since the Parkland shooting.
In 2016, Ting filed a similar bill to broaden California’s red flag law, following the mass shooting in San Bernardino, which began at an office holiday party. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) ultimately vetoed the legislation, calling it “premature to enact a further expansion” even as the initial law was just going into effect.
A year later, Ting’s San Francisco area district faced its own mass shooting when a disgruntled UPS employee walked into his workplace and fatally shot three colleagues, before killing himself.
When it comes to school safety specifically, restraining orders aimed at stopping gun violence are only part of the equation, said Amanda Wilcox, legislative chair of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She noted a California law that holds parents criminally liable if they leave their gun where a child can access it and mentioned other resources, like the Brady campaign’s Speak Up hotline, that allow students to anonymously report violent threats made by their peers.
“Practices and law and policies that make homes safer would also keep schools safer,” she told HuffPost.
Wilcox said she supports Ting’s bill and suggested that the relatively few restraining orders issued in the past two years under the original law show that it isn’t being overused, as opponents argued it would be.
“The standards of proof are high in the law,” she said. “It probably needs to be used more, but also under the law it’s supposed to be a last resort if there’s not another way to remove the guns.”
With more time to educate Californians on how the red-flag process works, Wilcox said she’s hopeful these restraining orders will be able to keep more guns out of the hands of dangerous individuals.
“What I don’t want is a case where it could have been used and should have been used and wasn’t, and someone is dead because of that,” she said.
AB 2888 passed in a 48-25 vote largely along party lines. The state Senate is expected to consider the bill in the coming weeks
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Dick’s Sporting Goods shares skyrocket after it stops selling assault-style rifles
Dick’s Sporting Goods shares jumped 23 percent when the market opened Wednesday, beating its first-quarter expectations, CNBC reports.
Dick’s stopped selling all assault-style rifles and high-capacity magazines after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, where 17 students and staff members were killed, CNN reports.
Dick’s Sporting Goods shares jumped 23 percent when the market opened Wednesday, beating its first-quarter expectations, CNBC reports.
Dick’s stopped selling all assault-style rifles and high-capacity magazines after the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, where 17 students and staff members were killed, CNN reports.
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California Moves To Let Schools, Co-workers 'Red Flag' Dangerous Gun Owners
Lawmakers in the California Assembly voted Monday to advance a bill that would authorize employers, co-workers and school personnel to request the temporary confiscation of guns from individuals determined to pose a danger to themselves or others.
The legislation, AB 2888, would build on California’s existing “red flag” law, passed in 2014 following a deadly shooting spree in Isla Vista. The 22-year-old gunman in that case had reportedly exhibited a number of warning signs before killing six people, and then himself, in the rampage.
The current red flag law gives family members, roommates and law enforcement officers the power to petition the court to remove firearms from individuals who have displayed dangerous behavior. Judges then hold a hearing to determine whether to order the gun owner to surrender their firearms and stay away from all guns, typically for a year, although the restraining orders can be extended beyond that based on additional evidence.
The new bill would expand the list of people who can file for such restraining orders to include a subject’s employer and co-workers and the staff of a high school or college that the person has attended in the last six months.
“We’re grappling with this issue of gun violence as a nation,” bill sponsor Assemblyman Phil Ting (D) told HuffPost. “I’ve never said this is a panacea, but it’s just one of many solutions we have to offer.”
The state’s courts have issued around 200 restraining orders to prevent gun violence since the original law went into effect in 2016, according to Ting. He said his bill would provide additional opportunities to catch troubling behavior.
“Once you move away from home and you’re an adult, you may not spend time with your family,” said Ting. “You may not have much interaction with law enforcement, but chances are if you’re working, you see your co-workers every day for eight-plus hours a day, and you’re with them not just in the work environment but socially.”
Ting pointed to the February massacre in Parkland, Florida, as a case in which a red flag law ― and specifically this sort of broader statute ― might have been able to save lives. Although the suspect in that shooting, a 19-year-old former student at the high school, had attracted the attention of local authorities on numerous occasions before his attack, school staff had also reported concerning behavior as far back as 2016. Florida is among the nine states with a red flag law and one of the four to have ushered through legislation since the Parkland shooting.
In 2016, Ting filed a similar bill to broaden California’s red flag law, following the mass shooting in San Bernardino, which began at an office holiday party. Gov. Jerry Brown (D) ultimately vetoed the legislation, calling it “premature to enact a further expansion” even as the initial law was just going into effect.
A year later, Ting’s San Francisco area district faced its own mass shooting when a disgruntled UPS employee walked into his workplace and fatally shot three colleagues, before killing himself.
When it comes to school safety specifically, restraining orders aimed at stopping gun violence are only part of the equation, said Amanda Wilcox, legislative chair of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She noted a California law that holds parents criminally liable if they leave their gun where a child can access it and mentioned other resources, like the Brady campaign’s Speak Up hotline, that allow students to anonymously report violent threats made by their peers.
“Practices and law and policies that make homes safer would also keep schools safer,” she told HuffPost.
Wilcox said she supports Ting’s bill and suggested that the relatively few restraining orders issued in the past two years under the original law show that it isn’t being overused, as opponents argued it would be.
“The standards of proof are high in the law,” she said. “It probably needs to be used more, but also under the law it’s supposed to be a last resort if there’s not another way to remove the guns.”
With more time to educate Californians on how the red-flag process works, Wilcox said she’s hopeful these restraining orders will be able to keep more guns out of the hands of dangerous individuals.
“What I don’t want is a case where it could have been used and should have been used and wasn’t, and someone is dead because of that,” she said.
AB 2888 passed in a 48-25 vote largely along party lines. The state Senate is expected to consider the bill in the coming weeks
Do you own a Garden Rake, Shovel, Spade or Sharp Pruning Instruments ........
Based on your outrageous posting history and unstable retorts ....
I ( The Community ) move that the Local City Authorities confiscate them from you until
it can be determined that you are stable and not a threat to your neighbors
and other members of your Local community.....
Furthermore I ( The Community ) move that you be banned from all Dept Stores, Hardware Stores
and Home Improvement Centers.....
You are not allowed to go within 100 yards of any Sporting Goods outlet
until I ( The Community ) determine that you are a SAFE and SANE individual
that can commingle with the community without altercation.....
This is sure one of those issues where it seems like just about all of society is looking for leaders in Washington to step up and start coming up with solutions to decrease gun violence. And quite frankly, because of the lobbyist and special interests... voters are being told no.
Should be an interesting fall to see what voters think when their politicians come up for the November review.
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Strange how those with the most money are the ones that most support the unfettered use of money in politics.
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You must mean unions.
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You donʻt miss much do you?
The first news story was that the NRA was receiving money from Russians to support their pro-t political efforts - which would be illegal even in a post-Citizens United world. The NRA denied it, and then admitted to receiving "only" $2500 from Russian sources.
That got me to thinking - how high a price would NRA have to put on their treason for new members to burn their membership cards - $25,000? $250,000? one million? more?
That got me to thinking - how high a price would NRA have to put on their treason for new members to burn their membership cards - $25,000? $250,000? one million? more?
All politics is local, even 2nd Amendment politics --
http://www.cbs8.com/story/38463948/david-chong-school-board-president-under-fire-for-facebook-post
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Another reason not everyone should be able to own or be issued a gun:
A lawyer for the family of a 17-year-old fatally shot by a Pennsylvania police officer seconds after he fled a traffic stop says the boy did not pose a threat.
Attorney S. Lee Merritt said Thursday he doesn't see justification for the use of deadly force by an East Pittsburgh police officer that left Antwon Rose Jr. dead.
Police on Tuesday night stopped the car Rose was riding as part of an investigation into an earlier shooting. Rose and another passenger ran from the car as an officer took the driver into custody.
A video of the shooting was posted to Facebook by a bystander.
City officials say the officer was sworn in just hours earlier but had been with the department for two weeks and had eight years of law enforcement experience.
A lawyer for the family of a 17-year-old fatally shot by a Pennsylvania police officer seconds after he fled a traffic stop says the boy did not pose a threat.
Attorney S. Lee Merritt said Thursday he doesn't see justification for the use of deadly force by an East Pittsburgh police officer that left Antwon Rose Jr. dead.
Police on Tuesday night stopped the car Rose was riding as part of an investigation into an earlier shooting. Rose and another passenger ran from the car as an officer took the driver into custody.
A video of the shooting was posted to Facebook by a bystander.
City officials say the officer was sworn in just hours earlier but had been with the department for two weeks and had eight years of law enforcement experience.
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A good lesson for everyone, don't run.