I have been hearing people talking about repealing the 2nd Amendment most of my adult life. Where have you been?
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I have been hearing people talking about repealing the 2nd Amendment most of my adult life. Where have you been?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Listening to you people talk about it without doing anything about it. What happen to your proposed NRRA?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Weak
You people usually pretend to support it, but only out of one side of your mouth.
What am I crying about again?
Ive been right here, defending the second amendment with the rest of us.
Right on cue.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Cuban exile Rebeca Ulloa, "I think [gun control] is one of the reasons why the Castro dictatorship has been in power on the island for more than half a century"
You gun control nutters reading the writing on the wall?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Appeals to Emotion, Not Facts
I do not doubt that the teens who led the “March for Our Lives” hold their beliefs sincerely—my contention is that the wider anti-gun movement is shamelessly using the teens to erect an intellectual shield. What sort of person, every cover photo and interview latently ask, could possibly be against these poor kids? This tactic stifles credible commentary in much the same way as we see advocacy for lower military budgets smeared as unpatriotic. It is the employment of emotion to cow rational dissent.
What Kasky and his peers seem not to have had time to learn in the whirlwind of their media tours, marches, and walkouts is that gun murders have, in fact, plummeted over the course of the last 30 years. And though each is an atrocity in its own right, even school shootings show no statistical uptick. According to research from Northeastern University, in contradiction of our current moral panic, there have been only eight shootings that have killed four or more people at K-through-12 schools in the United States in the past 20 years. But the availability heuristic has won the day and instead of hearing the truth—that violence has precipitously fallen—students are being told they’re living through an epidemic of unparalleled danger.
Should this information dull the pain felt by Kasky, his schoolmates, and the families of the slain? Of course not. But it should influence our policy discussions, which have unfortunately taken on a tone of hysteria. Gun laws are by no means out of bounds for public discussion, and it is valid to use recent events to illustrate flaws in our system, but the leveraging of emotion—both that felt by the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas survivors and that which it evokes from the public—detracts from the quality of our national discourse. To the survivors of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas shooting, we owe compassion, but to ourselves, we owe a sober and fact-based approach to policy.
Bruddah IZ
DA
https://fee.org/articles/the-anti-gun-movement-s-use-of-child-crusaders-debases-national-discourse/
The Hubris of Youth
Kasky and his classmates, driven by grief, anger, and the hubris of youth, have become mascots for the anti-gun movement and darlings of a national media that aids it. Beginning with interviews in the hours after the shooting and a CNN town hall event, their words have been conferred an unearned gravitas.
Age itself does not disqualify a person from contributing a valid argument, but these particular teenagers are acting in response to trauma, and their arguments show it. One line that I suspect will haunt Kasky was delivered in an interview with National Public Radios’s Noel King on the eve of the “March for Our Lives.” Asked what he has to say to teens with views that differ from his own, teens who enjoy shooting guns for sport, for example, Kasky responded that he would tell them, “We’re marching to protect you from other people like you who have guns.” The line betrays an impulsive authoritarianism that’s been fueled by tragedy, but critically—distressingly—encouraged by a movement that has greedily used the students to further its own message.
The continued presence of Kasky and his peers in the press implies that opinion-makers think the students’ views not only matter but should matter to the exclusion of others because they have been struck by tragedy. With each successive interview, the acrimony from the teens, not toward the assailant, but toward peaceful Americans is ratcheted higher.
The Hubris of Youth
Kasky and his classmates, driven by grief, anger, and the hubris of youth, have become mascots for the anti-gun movement and darlings of a national media that aids it. Beginning with interviews in the hours after the shooting and a CNN town hall event, their words have been conferred an unearned gravitas.
Age itself does not disqualify a person from contributing a valid argument, but these particular teenagers are acting in response to trauma, and their arguments show it. One line that I suspect will haunt Kasky was delivered in an interview with National Public Radios’s Noel King on the eve of the “March for Our Lives.” Asked what he has to say to teens with views that differ from his own, teens who enjoy shooting guns for sport, for example, Kasky responded that he would tell them, “We’re marching to protect you from other people like you who have guns.” The line betrays an impulsive authoritarianism that’s been fueled by tragedy, but critically—distressingly—encouraged by a movement that has greedily used the students to further its own message.
The continued presence of Kasky and his peers in the press implies that opinion-makers think the students’ views not only matter but should matter to the exclusion of others because they have been struck by tragedy. With each successive interview, the acrimony from the teens, not toward the assailant, but toward peaceful Americans is ratcheted higher.
Just more rhetoric from the 'I trust government to do the right thing' crowd....
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Sheriff Joe
DA
This little bitch it getting way too much attention,
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Sheriff Joe
DA
Feel good video of the day,
An Armed Robber Walked Into A Barber Shop. He Did NOT Walk Out
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Sleep tight, sweet prince.
An Armed Robber Walked Into A Barber Shop. He Did NOT Walk Out
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VideoSleep tight, sweet prince.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Every Word Liberals Say About Guns Is A Lie
Kurt Schlichter [URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2018/03/29/the-distortions-of-our-unelected-officials-n2465496'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2018/03/29/the-distortions-of-our-unelected-officials-n2465496'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/03/29/go-ahead-try-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-n2465624'] [/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]
Let’s start out with a basic premise – if you are a healthy, law-abiding American citizen you should own, and be proficient with, effective firearms and have sufficient ammunition on hand to act to defend yourself, your family, your community, and your Constitution. That’s what free people do.
Of course, it’s the people who don’t have those tools – backed up by the random goofy vet who tweets pics of himself turning in his personal weapons to baffled and embarrassed law enforcement officers – who want to take your firearms from you. Which presents certain practical difficulties when push comes to shove.
Wait, no, that’s crazy talk. No one wants to take your guns! No one! Stop talking crazy like that because it’s crazy!
And that sign the weirdo at the March for Fewer Rights is holding that says “Harry Potter Would Ban Assault Weapons”? What sign? This is just about common sense gun regulations, not gun control! And all the speakers wanting to ban guns? You, uh, misheard them. Oh wait, now Justice McCryptkeeper has an op-ed in the New York Times called “Repeal the Second Amendment.”
DAMN IT, HE’S OFF MESSAGE!
Uh, what op-ed? No one wants to repeal the Second Amendment. Seriously, no one wants to take your guns. There’s nothing behind the curtain. Are you going to believe your own lying eyes and ears?
Yeah, we are. You know, if liberals propose to gaslight us, to make us think we are insane for seeing what we are looking at, then they really need to be more … subtle. But subtlety is not a big thing with the Teen Titans of Tyranny. You know, there’s a limit to how long you can tolerate having a pack of moppet puppets and their Twitter troll teammates telling you that YOU HAVE THE BLOOD OF CHILDREN ON YOUR HANDS!
[Spoiler: You don’t have blood on your hands].
Here’s the deal – everything the liberals say about guns is a lie. Every. Single. Thing.
It’s a lie when they scream that you can hit the Guns-2-Go drive-thru and buy yourself a fully semi-automatic assault machine gun with high-powered 5.56 mm rounds, because glorified 5.56 mm rounds are “high-powered” on their planet, faster and quicker than you can call an Uber.
It’s a lie when they say an armed citizenry would be powerless in the face of a leftist government equipped with tanks and artillery and bombers – though their assumption that a leftist government would use tanks and artillery and bombers on the American people seems like a pretty good reason for having an armed citizenry.
It’s a lie when they say they only want to have a “conversation” and seek only “bipartisan compromise.” Foamy Marco Rubio got suckered into that grift just like Chuck Schumer suckered him into pushing amnesty, and they’ve been ritually disemboweling him ever since.
“Bought and paid for by the NRA; wants children murdered; blah blah blah.” You know the score. He went to that CNN town hall, which seemed more like a dinner theater staging of The Crucible, and tried to be a nice, open-minded guy, and they slaughtered him. There’s a lesson for you – never show these aspiring Red Guards any weakness. They hate us fans of the Constitution for resisting, but at least they have to grudgingly respect that we won’t roll over. But Rubio is weak, and he showed his belly, and they despise him for it.
By the way, Marco’s latest megafail is his refusal to campaign against Democrat Bill Nelson in the upcoming Senate race. If you need to reach him, he’ll be in his gimp box.
Though soft boys like Marco and his fellow submissive Fredocons refuse to acknowledge it, the other side’s goal is simple – they want us disarmed. But why? They know that Normal Americans are perfectly capable of safely owning all kinds of firearms. You slice the Democrat-run blue cities out of the statistics and America’s gun murder rate is comparable to Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood. They absolutely know that. But that’s not remotely the point.
What they cannot abide is us Normals being proud and free.
To disarm us would forever convert us from citizens to subjects. They get that our identity is wrapped up not in our guns themselves, but in the fact that armed we have the ability to control our destiny. If necessary, an armed citizenry can tell those who would trample our rights, “No” – and to back it up with force if necessary.
Liberals constantly sneer that we are “insecure about our masculinity” and “need guns to feel like men.” Leaving aside the millions of gun-owning women out there who don’t seem to fit within that stupid paradigm, and the irony of leftist doofs opining on manhood, liberals miss the point.
We don’t need guns to be men. We need guns to be free men.
They yearn to see us humbled. They ache to see us made into serfs. That we defy them is bad enough. But they cannot tolerate that we maintain our dignity – the dignity of a citizen that comes with having a say in your own governance and exercising your rights with neither apology nor limitation – and that we maintain our dignity in the face of their hatred and contempt.
They want us disarmed because they want us disenfranchised, discouraged, and no longer disobedient. They want us broken.
But they can’t break us. Even if they had the votes to overturn our constitutional rights – do you think they would stop at the Second Amendment and not move on to the First Amendment next? – the fact that a bunch of aspiring dictators erased the words from the parchment means nothing. Our right to speak and worship freely, and our right to keep and bear arms, were merely cited by the Constitution. That paper did not grant them. The government did not grant them, and the government cannot take them away. Every American was endowed with those rights by his Creator, and as long as we have the will to defend our rights, no collection of creeps is ever going to take them away from us.
Kurt Schlichter [URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2018/03/29/the-distortions-of-our-unelected-officials-n2465496'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2018/03/29/the-distortions-of-our-unelected-officials-n2465496'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/2018/03/29/wheres-the-common-sense-in-common-sense-gun-laws-n2465644'][URL='https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2018/03/29/go-ahead-try-to-repeal-the-second-amendment-n2465624'] [/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]
Let’s start out with a basic premise – if you are a healthy, law-abiding American citizen you should own, and be proficient with, effective firearms and have sufficient ammunition on hand to act to defend yourself, your family, your community, and your Constitution. That’s what free people do.
Of course, it’s the people who don’t have those tools – backed up by the random goofy vet who tweets pics of himself turning in his personal weapons to baffled and embarrassed law enforcement officers – who want to take your firearms from you. Which presents certain practical difficulties when push comes to shove.
Wait, no, that’s crazy talk. No one wants to take your guns! No one! Stop talking crazy like that because it’s crazy!
And that sign the weirdo at the March for Fewer Rights is holding that says “Harry Potter Would Ban Assault Weapons”? What sign? This is just about common sense gun regulations, not gun control! And all the speakers wanting to ban guns? You, uh, misheard them. Oh wait, now Justice McCryptkeeper has an op-ed in the New York Times called “Repeal the Second Amendment.”
DAMN IT, HE’S OFF MESSAGE!
Uh, what op-ed? No one wants to repeal the Second Amendment. Seriously, no one wants to take your guns. There’s nothing behind the curtain. Are you going to believe your own lying eyes and ears?
Yeah, we are. You know, if liberals propose to gaslight us, to make us think we are insane for seeing what we are looking at, then they really need to be more … subtle. But subtlety is not a big thing with the Teen Titans of Tyranny. You know, there’s a limit to how long you can tolerate having a pack of moppet puppets and their Twitter troll teammates telling you that YOU HAVE THE BLOOD OF CHILDREN ON YOUR HANDS!
[Spoiler: You don’t have blood on your hands].
Here’s the deal – everything the liberals say about guns is a lie. Every. Single. Thing.
It’s a lie when they scream that you can hit the Guns-2-Go drive-thru and buy yourself a fully semi-automatic assault machine gun with high-powered 5.56 mm rounds, because glorified 5.56 mm rounds are “high-powered” on their planet, faster and quicker than you can call an Uber.
It’s a lie when they say an armed citizenry would be powerless in the face of a leftist government equipped with tanks and artillery and bombers – though their assumption that a leftist government would use tanks and artillery and bombers on the American people seems like a pretty good reason for having an armed citizenry.
It’s a lie when they say they only want to have a “conversation” and seek only “bipartisan compromise.” Foamy Marco Rubio got suckered into that grift just like Chuck Schumer suckered him into pushing amnesty, and they’ve been ritually disemboweling him ever since.
“Bought and paid for by the NRA; wants children murdered; blah blah blah.” You know the score. He went to that CNN town hall, which seemed more like a dinner theater staging of The Crucible, and tried to be a nice, open-minded guy, and they slaughtered him. There’s a lesson for you – never show these aspiring Red Guards any weakness. They hate us fans of the Constitution for resisting, but at least they have to grudgingly respect that we won’t roll over. But Rubio is weak, and he showed his belly, and they despise him for it.
By the way, Marco’s latest megafail is his refusal to campaign against Democrat Bill Nelson in the upcoming Senate race. If you need to reach him, he’ll be in his gimp box.
Though soft boys like Marco and his fellow submissive Fredocons refuse to acknowledge it, the other side’s goal is simple – they want us disarmed. But why? They know that Normal Americans are perfectly capable of safely owning all kinds of firearms. You slice the Democrat-run blue cities out of the statistics and America’s gun murder rate is comparable to Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood. They absolutely know that. But that’s not remotely the point.
What they cannot abide is us Normals being proud and free.
To disarm us would forever convert us from citizens to subjects. They get that our identity is wrapped up not in our guns themselves, but in the fact that armed we have the ability to control our destiny. If necessary, an armed citizenry can tell those who would trample our rights, “No” – and to back it up with force if necessary.
Liberals constantly sneer that we are “insecure about our masculinity” and “need guns to feel like men.” Leaving aside the millions of gun-owning women out there who don’t seem to fit within that stupid paradigm, and the irony of leftist doofs opining on manhood, liberals miss the point.
We don’t need guns to be men. We need guns to be free men.
They yearn to see us humbled. They ache to see us made into serfs. That we defy them is bad enough. But they cannot tolerate that we maintain our dignity – the dignity of a citizen that comes with having a say in your own governance and exercising your rights with neither apology nor limitation – and that we maintain our dignity in the face of their hatred and contempt.
They want us disarmed because they want us disenfranchised, discouraged, and no longer disobedient. They want us broken.
But they can’t break us. Even if they had the votes to overturn our constitutional rights – do you think they would stop at the Second Amendment and not move on to the First Amendment next? – the fact that a bunch of aspiring dictators erased the words from the parchment means nothing. Our right to speak and worship freely, and our right to keep and bear arms, were merely cited by the Constitution. That paper did not grant them. The government did not grant them, and the government cannot take them away. Every American was endowed with those rights by his Creator, and as long as we have the will to defend our rights, no collection of creeps is ever going to take them away from us.