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Teachers and kids in Israel.....
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Fake Crime Statistics Lead to 17 Murdered in Parkland
Bruce Bialosky | March 25, 2018




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In HBO’s The Wire (truly a transcendental television experience), there is a story line about an upcoming mayoral election and the concerted effort to manipulate the crime stats before the election to make the existing administration look better. Whether or not this was art imitating life, it replicates how things got started in Broward County, Florida, leading directly to the murder of 17 innocent souls in Parkland.


It seems that every day more revelations come out about the collapse of the system in Parkland that failed to stop the murderer from roaming the halls of a high school with a gun he should never have had an opportunity to legally acquire. Yet the tale of failure starts way before the fated day he entered the school.

This starts with the Superintendent of Broward County, Robert Runcie, who arrived in his position from Chicago where he worked with Arne Duncan. Mr. Duncan went from there to serve as President Obama’s Secretary of Education for seven years. Runcie stated, in October 2011, “I arrived in the district and, shortly after that, began to dive into the data on student performance in the district. We quickly recognized that Broward had a high number of arrests, suspensions and expulsions. In fact, the highest number in the state. We realized we were not going to be able to create equitable opportunities for success in our school system if our students are not in school.”

Runcie went about redesigning the system to reduce arrests and expulsions. By his own words they identified 13 violations of the code of conduct that were nonviolent, misdemeanor offenses. That is not the case as some of the crimes were violent misdemeanors like what is called “affray.” The school system went about erasing these crimes from existing. We all know what happens when individuals are not disciplined for low-level crimes. They often move on to other low-level crimes or more aggressive anti-social behavior.
 

You Want To Have A Serious Talk About Gun Violence? Let’s Talk About Chicago And Handguns
March 23rd, 2018
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Seized handguns are pictured at the police headquarters in New York, New York August 19, 2013. REUTERS/Eric Thayer/File Photo

It seems fairly evident that nobody on the gun control side of the aisle wants to have a serious talk about guns and gun violence. What they want is an easy win. They want to cast the National Rifle Association as the epitome of evil. An army of children is marching on Washington this weekend, and they want to take semi-automatic rifles away, specifically, the spooky AR-15 rifle.

If they were actually serious about gun violence, they’d be talking about places like Chicago and they’d lobby for further regulation of or outright ban on the sale of handguns. Yes, the real numbers actually show riflesare among the safest firearms for an American to own. According to the FBI, Americans are roughly 20 times more likely to die at the end of a handgun.

Yet, handguns are definitively not part of the script the media follows when a mass shooting occurs in America. First, blue check marks start tweeting for gun control while the bodies are still warm. Second come the spin masters like Bloomberg’s anti-gun Everytown USA, which got basically the entire media to repeat a wildly false statistic that 18 school shootings had occurred in 2018. Third come the “thoughtful” and “powerful” opeds, lately from veterans quick to use their service as a lecturing device.

Finally, the big brands come out to play.

We get scary posts on the AR-15 like this one from a two-time Pulitzer recipient at The New York Times, which notes that “173 people have been killed in mass shootings in the United States involving AR-15s, according to a New York Times analysis.” Of course, the article — which reads like a less dishonest version of a press release from Everytown — is missing the context on handguns. How else would they have fit in the swipe at the NRA, the quote from a military veteran for gun control, and all the terrifying language about the infantry’s use of AR-15s?


If we’re to restrict gun deaths to just mass shootings, according to Statista (which uses the FBI’s methodology), handguns are about twice as likely to be used as rifles. We saw the results of handguns on soft targets in the Ft. Hood and Charleston church shootings. Except that it’s much easier to conceal a handgun, there is virtually no difference between a semi-automatic handgun and a rifle when it comes to attacking a close-quarters, defenseless environment like a school or a church.

The “173 deaths since 2007” number is also highly misleading out of context. Roughly four times that number died by gunfire in Chicago in a single year.

Still, not a word about Chicago gun violence from the media and gun control advocates in this recent cycle, while they loudly claim to be the white knights of gun violence.

Their proposed regulations also fit the typical script in that they will have almost no effect on the problem. Raise the age of sales to 21? Average age of a mass shooter is 32. Ban the sale of AR-15s? There are dozens of magazine-fed carbines on the market. Ban the sale of semi-automatic rifles? Most mass shootings occur with handguns.

No no, you’ll hear at their march on DC Saturday, their mascot is definitively the AR-15. Mostly because they just have to do something.But the numbers they carry with them are misleading or false. Their propositions, like banning the AR-15, won’t prevent a determined mass murderer.

But, they assure you, they’re totally serious about the problem.
 
Teachers and kids in Israel.....
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Yes... well there is a mandatory draft for all Israeli citizens, as is I believe having to carry a firearm with you. So she probably spent 4 years in the military and handles a gun everyday of her live. Compare that to how much experience your average American school teacher spends handling a firearm.

I respect the heck out of Israel, but here in America however I think most of us would prefer not to live in a militarized state- no matter how profitable it would be for the gun lobby.
 
Yes... well there is a mandatory draft for all Israeli citizens, as is I believe having to carry a firearm with you. So she probably spent 4 years in the military and handles a gun everyday of her live. Compare that to how much experience your average American school teacher spends handling a firearm.

I respect the heck out of Israel, but here in America however I think most of us would prefer not to live in a militarized state- no matter how profitable it would be for the gun lobby.
Why would it be profitable for the GL?
 
Fake Crime Statistics Lead to 17 Murdered in Parkland
Bruce Bialosky | March 25, 2018




6055a356-e56d-4785-ae67-0de3a04e22c4.jpg

In HBO’s The Wire (truly a transcendental television experience), there is a story line about an upcoming mayoral election and the concerted effort to manipulate the crime stats before the election to make the existing administration look better. Whether or not this was art imitating life, it replicates how things got started in Broward County, Florida, leading directly to the murder of 17 innocent souls in Parkland.


It seems that every day more revelations come out about the collapse of the system in Parkland that failed to stop the murderer from roaming the halls of a high school with a gun he should never have had an opportunity to legally acquire. Yet the tale of failure starts way before the fated day he entered the school.

This starts with the Superintendent of Broward County, Robert Runcie, who arrived in his position from Chicago where he worked with Arne Duncan. Mr. Duncan went from there to serve as President Obama’s Secretary of Education for seven years. Runcie stated, in October 2011, “I arrived in the district and, shortly after that, began to dive into the data on student performance in the district. We quickly recognized that Broward had a high number of arrests, suspensions and expulsions. In fact, the highest number in the state. We realized we were not going to be able to create equitable opportunities for success in our school system if our students are not in school.”

Runcie went about redesigning the system to reduce arrests and expulsions. By his own words they identified 13 violations of the code of conduct that were nonviolent, misdemeanor offenses. That is not the case as some of the crimes were violent misdemeanors like what is called “affray.” The school system went about erasing these crimes from existing. We all know what happens when individuals are not disciplined for low-level crimes. They often move on to other low-level crimes or more aggressive anti-social behavior.
I dont want government pointing to my rights as the reason for their failure.
 
Almost all Swiss citizens are life-time members of the militia, with regular intense training in use of their weapons. That is truly a model we could emulate, with no harm to alleged "rights".
See these nutters don't want to get into any "tests" of mental health as they are certain to fail unless the one giving the test is fellow nutter.
 
See these nutters don't want to get into any "tests" of mental health as they are certain to fail unless the one giving the test is fellow nutter.
Switzerland arms its citizens to protect the state. We have a separate military for that.
Our Constitution is designed to protect the citizens from the state.

There are already laws in place that prohibit criminally insane people from owning weapons.
If those laws are broken, my rights are not to blame.
 
Switzerland arms its citizens to protect the state. We have a separate military for that.
Our Constitution is designed to protect the citizens from the state.

There are already laws in place that prohibit criminally insane people from owning weapons.
If those laws are broken, my rights are not to blame.

So what are you afraid of? Do you think someone will declare you insane?
 
Switzerland arms its citizens to protect the state. We have a separate military for that.
Our Constitution is designed to protect the citizens from the state.

There are already laws in place that prohibit criminally insane people from owning weapons.
If those laws are broken, my rights are not to blame.
What's that got to do with people owning guns who don't deserve or haven't earned that right?
 
So what are you afraid of? Do you think someone will declare you insane?
Im not advocating taking anyone's rights away.
We have laws that prohibit the criminally insane from owning weapons, and those laws need to be enforced.
When those laws are broken, my rights are not to blame.
 
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