An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America

Open your eyes TD.
Here' one tiny example of how blind you are:
Eugene Robinson: George W. Bush’s greatest legacy — his battle against AIDS

This is a moment for all Americans to be proud of the best thing George W. Bush did as president: launching an initiative to combat AIDS in Africa that has saved millions of lives.....

When the Bush administration inaugurated the program in 2003, fewer than 50,000 HIV-infected people on the African continent were receiving the antiretroviral drugs that keep the virus in check and halt the progression toward full-blown AIDS. By the time Bush left office, the number had increased to nearly 2 million. Today, the United States is directly supporting antiretroviral treatment for more than 4 million men, women and children worldwide, primarily in Africa.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin.../gJQAumGKCX_story.html?utm_term=.cdeadcf0c08f

"It is compassionate to actively help our citizens in need. It is conservative to insist on accountability and results."— President George W. Bush


No I agree... once upon a time the Republican party was much more focused and frankly "moderate" in how it spoke and thought about people.
But those days are long gone amigo.

Hence you have to go back the better part of 20 years to find an example.
 
Scalpels Kill More Kids than Guns Daniel John SobieskiThe life of a young black male is more likely to be ended in his mother’s womb with a scalpel than by a white cop or a gang banger in a drive-by shooting. MoreGun-Owners Are Being Blamed for the Failures of Liberalism Jeffrey T. BrownThis is how children are indoctrinated as agents of the state, which uses them like so many bullet-catchers and footstools. More
Hmm, what a well-constructed argument.
A shorter argument can be used to rebut.
Nations that have fewer guns, as in most every Western country, have an unfathomably lesser amount of wrongful deaths by gunshot.
 
No I agree... once upon a time the Republican party was much more focused and frankly "moderate" in how it spoke and thought about people.
But those days are long gone amigo.

Hence you have to go back the better part of 20 years to find an example.
Horse shit TD...Those days are not long gone. At least attempt to research your proclamations...
I chose that one because the program is still going on and it has saved millions of lives....rather than taken millions....

from cnn:
Future historians will also note what today's pundits ignore: total US government development aid to Africa quadrupled from $1.3 billion in 2001 to more than $5 billion in 2008. What's more, the Bush administration doubled foreign aid worldwide over the past eight years. You have to go back to the Truman years to match that.

....Bush healed abroad, but he also healed right here at home.

Before Bush acted, the nation's 43 million seniors did not have affordable access to prescription drugs (the most powerful tool a doctor has to prevent and treat disease) through the Medicare program. Today, because of George Bush, they do.

Initially, conservatives howled because the prescription drug initiative "cost too much." Liberals hated it because it involved the markets and competition. But today, 23 million seniors live healthier lives, Medicare drug spending has been 20 percent to 30 percent less than predicted for each of the past two years and seniors overwhelmingly give the program enthusiastic reviews.

And, in addition, the program is highly redistributive -- giving advantages the poorest, introducing preventive care to Medicare, encouraging electronic prescribing and introducing chronic disease management. Who says Republicans can't lead on heath reform?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/15/frist.bush/
 
So you agree? Abortion is morally wrong.

I agree killing babies is wrong. Abortion?
Well... no I don't think the moment the sperm touches the egg that magically we are now talking about a baby. However also equally plain, by the time the fetus comes out it has become a baby. So it's really a question of literally at what stage of pregnancy does the life of the "baby" begin? Personally I'm comfortable saying a fetus that doesn't have nerves or a functioning brain isn't yet a life (what's that two trimesters?)... regardless of what other people religious convictions are. Which I guess means I'm fine abortions til the end of the second trimester.

If we are comparing that to my ethics on guns... I don't have a problem with people owning guns.
However I do think both back in the 90's when the gangsters were shooting each other up, and now with people going on rampages inside the schools themselves; we're seeing that people can and do use these particular weapons to intentionally commit horrible crimes when they have access to them. In the 90's banning the high powered assault riffles seemed to help end the senseless killings. So ethically I support some sort of gun control because even here in America we've seen it works.
 
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Horse shit TD...Those days are not long gone. At least attempt to research your proclamations...
I chose that one because the program is still going on and it has saved millions of lives....rather than taken millions....

from cnn:
Future historians will also note what today's pundits ignore: total US government development aid to Africa quadrupled from $1.3 billion in 2001 to more than $5 billion in 2008. What's more, the Bush administration doubled foreign aid worldwide over the past eight years. You have to go back to the Truman years to match that.

....Bush healed abroad, but he also healed right here at home.

Before Bush acted, the nation's 43 million seniors did not have affordable access to prescription drugs (the most powerful tool a doctor has to prevent and treat disease) through the Medicare program. Today, because of George Bush, they do.

Initially, conservatives howled because the prescription drug initiative "cost too much." Liberals hated it because it involved the markets and competition. But today, 23 million seniors live healthier lives, Medicare drug spending has been 20 percent to 30 percent less than predicted for each of the past two years and seniors overwhelmingly give the program enthusiastic reviews.

And, in addition, the program is highly redistributive -- giving advantages the poorest, introducing preventive care to Medicare, encouraging electronic prescribing and introducing chronic disease management. Who says Republicans can't lead on heath reform?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/15/frist.bush/

Again... you're still pointing to Bush accomplishments. Bush is long gone. But I get why you keep bringing up Bush even though he was elected almost 20 years ago, I mean has Trump even announced any humanitarian issues he's going to make a hallmark of his administration? Like... you know, Bush did with Africa?

I guess when everyone has listened to recording of you talking about grabbing women's pussies, it's a little hard to pull off the compassionate conservative angle without getting laughed off stage. Even it seems, at a Trump rally.
 
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Again Wez... what are you doing? Like I posted, liberals like you like to talk about doing something. You talk a lot but that's all you do.

You have no idea what I do in my personal life. Unlike you, I don't derive a sense of satisfaction about my community and philanthropic work, by pasting it here. You are the least like Jesus in this forum.
 
Again... you're still pointing to Bush accomplishments. Bush is long gone. But I get why you keep bringing up Bush even though he was elected almost 20 years ago, I mean has Trump even announced any humanitarian issues he's going to make a hallmark of his administration? Like... you know, Bush did with Africa?

I guess when everyone has listened to recording of you talking about grabbing women's pussies, it's a little hard to pull of the compassionate conservative angle without getting laughed off stage. Even it seems, at a Trump rally.
You miss the point, T. Compassionate conservatives are "snowflakes."
 
You have no idea what I do in my personal life. Unlike you, I don't derive a sense of satisfaction about my community and philanthropic work, by pasting it here. You are the least like Jesus in this forum.
Get your shit together Multi, if you are worse than Wez you must be snake belly low.
Wez never lies.
 
You have no idea what I do in my personal life. Unlike you, I don't derive a sense of satisfaction about my community and philanthropic work, by pasting it here. You are the least like Jesus in this forum.
Nice try Francis... but you were the one who originally called me out about what I was doing for humanity. Boy did that one backfire on you big time! You already admitted that you don't do much, if anything at all so don't try and backpedal now swertheart. We already know that you are a hypocrite.. OWN IT!
 
Again... you're still pointing to Bush accomplishments. Bush is long gone. But I get why you keep bringing up Bush even though he was elected almost 20 years ago, I mean has Trump even announced any humanitarian issues he's going to make a hallmark of his administration? Like... you know, Bush did with Africa?

I guess when everyone has listened to recording of you talking about grabbing women's pussies, it's a little hard to pull off the compassionate conservative angle without getting laughed off stage. Even it seems, at a Trump rally.
A good book.

Liberal Hearts and Conservative Brains: The Correlation Between Age and Political Philosophy https://g.co/kgs/SaZ5EL
 
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