An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America

QUOTE="Andy Dukes, post: 122774, member: 1268" Last night should have been one of the biggest tragedies of my life to hear about here in the US. It wasn't. After Sandy Hook and the lack of reaction by our political leaders, I just can't react to these shootings much anymore. 2 of my 3 daughters had friends there last night. One I watched play soccer from 8 through high school. We choose this, is the maddening part. LVPD were amazing almost miraculous in the response time. 5 minutes from first shot to end with them in the room. It was over ten minutes Andy .....when are you going to stop lying ?

• "The gunshots lasted for 10 to 15 minutes. It didn't stop," said witness Rachel de Kerf.



LE knows that the US Constitution does not guarantee the right to own semi-automatic rifles but he will ignore that and lie about what the Supreme Court has ruled. NoNo and Joe are of no use to discuss anything with and neither is BIZ. Because we catch you Lying and your embarrassed.


Andy stated - > " Not much reason to spend anytime on this board anymore * "
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/QUOTE

Then don't *.....every time you come on this Forum you get caught in
some kind of misrepresentation or outright Lie.
I would be embarrassed with that kind of track record.
I too have acquaintances that were attending, that's simple percentages.
 
There is a timeline at WAPO.

"The shooting reportedly stopped after five to fifteen minutes, though estimates vary. Later, the police located the shooter’s hotel room because the smoke from his gun made the fire alarm go off, according to a retired officer."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/las-vegas-shooting/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_how-it-happened-1220pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.c680d7cff6e3

I'm hearing it took them about an hour to finally zero in on him, which is why I asked for your timeline link.
 
"The shooting reportedly stopped after five to fifteen minutes, though estimates vary. Later, the police located the shooter’s hotel room because the smoke from his gun made the fire alarm go off, according to a retired officer."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/las-vegas-shooting/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_how-it-happened-1220pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.c680d7cff6e3

I'm hearing it took them about an hour to finally zero in on him, which is why I asked for your timeline link.


If what you state is credible, then very easily " The two REAL Shooters " could have gotten away and killed the " Old "
man found in the room and that fits in perfectly with the doubled up claims by ISIS that it was done by them.
They just left a stooge behind to take the fall. A stooge that was probably sourced out by his time in Las Vegas as a
Gambler and his association with the Mystery Lady who the Media is giving a pass.
 
Last night should have been one of the biggest tragedies of my life to hear about here in the US. It wasn't. After Sandy Hook and the lack of reaction by our political leaders, I just can't react to these shootings much anymore. 2 of my 3 daughters had friends there last night. One I watched play soccer from 8 through high school. We choose this, is the maddening part. LVPD were amazing almost miraculous in the response time. 5 minutes from first shot to end with them in the room. LE knows that the US Constitution does not guarantee the right to own semi-automatic rifles but he will ignore that and lie about what the Supreme Court has ruled. NoNo and Joe are of no use to discuss anything with and neither is BIZ. Not much reason to spend anytime on this board anymore.
BYE.
 
And what message would that be?

The same message I promote here. The US has an unnatural obsession with guns and violence and we are being held hostage by a brainwashing by the gun industry that 2A rights are worth any and all costs.
 
Got a link for this?
I was driving about when you asked this. I got that number somewhere this morning and like much of the early reporting in this incidents it was obviously wrong. I thought it was miraculous. Looks like about an hour and 20 minutes from the latest reporting. Very good but not what I thought.
 
I was driving about when you asked this. I got that number somewhere this morning and like much of the early reporting in this incidents it was obviously wrong. I thought it was miraculous. Looks like about an hour and 20 minutes from the latest reporting. Very good but not what I thought.

3309 rooms in that hotel. Can't just open all the doors at once...
 
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EXPERTS: Las Vegas Mass Shooting Is VERY STRANGE — Unlike Anything– Suspect Bought 30 WEAPONS!
October 2, 2017 by Jim Hoft 128 Comments

On Sunday night a crazed shooter slaughtered over 50 people at a Las Vegas country music festival.
Another 400 people were injured.

A gunman opened fire on the crowd of concertgoers at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival next to the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas.

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Well within 7.62x39s lethal zone. @billhandelshow @kfiam640

9:48 AM - Oct 2, 2017

As details emerge the shooting is unlike any event in US history.
David French at National Review reported:


It certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns…

…So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties. I cannot think of a single other mass shooter who went to this level of expense and planning in the entire history of the United States.

A St. Louis gun expert says to purchase one fully automatic weapon could cost around $30,000.

Paddock had 10 weapons in his room.

An AK-47 semi-automatic would cost you $400-$500.

PADDOCK BOUGHT MORE THAN 30 WEAPONS!
A total of 19 weapons have been recovered so far according to FOX News.


FOX News reported:

Equipping an AR-15, for example, with a Slide Fire stock would be far cheaper and easier than buying a machine gun. Machine guns in the U.S. can cost upwards of $15,000 and require the buyer to undergo a personally intrusive and months-long application process with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Paddock had previously visited the hotel two other times.
 
I was driving about when you asked this. I got that number somewhere this morning and like much of the early reporting in this incidents it was obviously wrong. I thought it was miraculous. Looks like about an hour and 20 minutes from the latest reporting. Very good but not what I thought.
That is why you must use common sense, it takes more than 5 minutes in the elevator. I understand, you are just believing what you are told like a good lib.
 
The same message I promote here. The US has an unnatural obsession with guns and violence and we are being held hostage by a brainwashing by the gun industry that 2A rights are worth any and all costs.


Then get rid of every gun you own/possess.
 
"Terrorist related." For sure. The old white guy cell from Mesquite, NV has been activated. Was Newtown terrorist-related as well? Or was it fake? I think it was a blow against tyranny. Don't politicize these mass shootings. Guns keep us safe.
An armed hotel guest in proximity to shooter or shooters could have arrested the situation sooner.
 
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