Albion SC (East County specifically)

He didn’t say anything yesterday.
We will be seeing if there is room for her at Albion Central.

It would still be nice if those with actual info would share it to help the rest of us.
 
East County Soccer Dad said:
Nope.
Been ignoring the emails.
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New to the thread here. However, I’m a parent that was part of the San Diego United club that was grandfathered into Albion EC. Back in 2020/2021. Our first year was difficult. However, with time it got a lot better. And I see growth in our son skills. Plus, the other parents are great people to be around. Very supportive over all with a lot of love.

I have nothing but great things to say about Coach Sammy and Jason. I really hope it stays that way for a while.
 
Sami and Jason Heth are great coaches

Unfortunately they had to go under a bigger club and chose Albion. Since then the happiness and quality has left. They themselves have been burned and looked for a way out ( working w out a contract ) from NG and the dictatorship

They also have become so desperate to survive they brought in a well known liar and thief

Now that crafty Aldous has weaseled his way into power and will undermine both of them and will have one of their jobs within a month

that is a toxic mess to stay clear from
 
D8958 said:
Good for you. So look, Code, me, Hoodrat, we are not haters. We just have knowledge of things, things that aren't good. We just really want you to look at all your options.
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And we are. But it would be nice/helpful to know what these things are.

(Based on just the hinting we would not have a child play for MM or JA, but not sure we could pull them from a team we like at a club they are associated with just because)
 
East County Soccer Dad said:
And we are. But it would be nice/helpful to know what these things are.

(Based on just the hinting we would not have a child play for MM or JA, but not sure we could pull them from a team we like at a club they are associated with just because)
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I rarely speak up in here, but I feel like this is being blown way out of proportion. If you have a coach and team you like don't stress it. The fact that there are coaches associated with the club that other people dislike is meaningless. I know JA and MM, as we were with Liverpool/EC Surf for many years. My child was not coached by either of them, but I know people whose were, and they have mixed opinions on them. I don't personally have any love for JA as a director and questioned decisions he made over the years, but I don't think he's a bad guy, and I can't imagine how their arrival at EC Albion would necessarily create a toxic environment. Don't let things you read on this forum influence your decisions. If you're happy with your team and the club there is no reason to question that. Your coach and team are what's most important. Don't get overly wrapped up in club politics, it's just not worth the headache, and there is real value in keeping things close to home for as long as humanly possible.
 
polygon said:
I rarely speak up in here, but I feel like this is being blown way out of proportion. If you have a coach and team you like don't stress it. The fact that there are coaches associated with the club that other people dislike is meaningless. I know JA and MM, as we were with Liverpool/EC Surf for many years. My child was not coached by either of them, but I know people whose were, and they have mixed opinions on them. I don't personally have any love for JA as a director and questioned decisions he made over the years, but I don't think he's a bad guy, and I can't imagine how their arrival at EC Albion would necessarily create a toxic environment. Don't let things you read on this forum influence your decisions. If you're happy with your team and the club there is no reason to question that. Your coach and team are what's most important. Don't get overly wrapped up in club politics, it's just not worth the headache, and there is real value in keeping things close to home for as long as humanly possible.
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Thank you for the feedback.
That is what I am inclined to do at this point.
I would hope that if the guys in this thread had any info on truly nefarious actions that they would share them in order to allow those of us not in the know to do what is best for our children.
 
polygon said:
I rarely speak up in here, but I feel like this is being blown way out of proportion. If you have a coach and team you like don't stress it. The fact that there are coaches associated with the club that other people dislike is meaningless. I know JA and MM, as we were with Liverpool/EC Surf for many years. My child was not coached by either of them, but I know people whose were, and they have mixed opinions on them. I don't personally have any love for JA as a director and questioned decisions he made over the years, but I don't think he's a bad guy, and I can't imagine how their arrival at EC Albion would necessarily create a toxic environment. Don't let things you read on this forum influence your decisions. If you're happy with your team and the club there is no reason to question that. Your coach and team are what's most important. Don't get overly wrapped up in club politics, it's just not worth the headache, and there is real value in keeping things close to home for as long as humanly possible.
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Some of the best advice I’ve read on this forum!
 
polygon said:
I rarely speak up in here, but I feel like this is being blown way out of proportion. If you have a coach and team you like don't stress it. The fact that there are coaches associated with the club that other people dislike is meaningless. I know JA and MM, as we were with Liverpool/EC Surf for many years. My child was not coached by either of them, but I know people whose were, and they have mixed opinions on them. I don't personally have any love for JA as a director and questioned decisions he made over the years, but I don't think he's a bad guy, and I can't imagine how their arrival at EC Albion would necessarily create a toxic environment. Don't let things you read on this forum influence your decisions. If you're happy with your team and the club there is no reason to question that. Your coach and team are what's most important. Don't get overly wrapped up in club politics, it's just not worth the headache, and there is real value in keeping things close to home for as long as humanly possible.
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I am fairly certain the others said the same thing
 
polygon said:
I rarely speak up in here, but I feel like this is being blown way out of proportion. If you have a coach and team you like don't stress it. The fact that there are coaches associated with the club that other people dislike is meaningless. I know JA and MM, as we were with Liverpool/EC Surf for many years. My child was not coached by either of them, but I know people whose were, and they have mixed opinions on them. I don't personally have any love for JA as a director and questioned decisions he made over the years, but I don't think he's a bad guy, and I can't imagine how their arrival at EC Albion would necessarily create a toxic environment. Don't let things you read on this forum influence your decisions. If you're happy with your team and the club there is no reason to question that. Your coach and team are what's most important. Don't get overly wrapped up in club politics, it's just not worth the headache, and there is real value in keeping things close to home for as long as humanly possible.
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Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
 
D8958 said:
Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
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Fair enough point and I am inclined to agree, but is that this situation? Did JA do any of these things? Posters on here are alluding to bad behavior, but have not revealed what he did or did not do that resulted in his release from ECS aside from one person calling him a thief without any supporting evidence. Does Albion have knowledge of gross misconduct and hired him anyway? You're saying that I have little knowledge of any actual events, but do you? And if you do why don't you let this guy know so he can make an informed decision on what to do for his player? So many of you are implying that he should run from the club without really providing any information or explaining why.

I've had a child in soccer (east county and elsewhere) for over 10 years. Every club has issues. Every club has skeletons in the closet. Every club has coaches who screw up and get fired only to be rehired elsewhere or who rehire coaches who were fired from somewhere else. This is probably especially true for the mega clubs. But the bottom line is that if the original poster is happy with his child's team and coach why should he leave just because the club hired someone who is perceived by members of this forum to be a bad dude? And if JA did something really horrible or illegal that is common knowledge why not reveal it here or at the very least let East County Soccer Dad know privately.
 
D8958 said:
Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
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And a follow up question for you is which clubs are acceptable in your opinion?
 
D8958 said:
Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
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Could not have said it any better, need more parents like you. JA violaled 2 of the 4 on your list.
 
D8958 said:
Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
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Coaches sleeping with parents, players or other coaches is not good for the kids. Paying a Doc a little extra to get access to all the prizes is not good either.
 
polygon said:
Fair enough point and I am inclined to agree, but is that this situation? Did JA do any of these things? Posters on here are alluding to bad behavior, but have not revealed what he did or did not do that resulted in his release from ECS aside from one person calling him a thief without any supporting evidence. Does Albion have knowledge of gross misconduct and hired him anyway? You're saying that I have little knowledge of any actual events, but do you? And if you do why don't you let this guy know so he can make an informed decision on what to do for his player? So many of you are implying that he should run from the club without really providing any information or explaining why.

I've had a child in soccer (east county and elsewhere) for over 10 years. Every club has issues. Every club has skeletons in the closet. Every club has coaches who screw up and get fired only to be rehired elsewhere or who rehire coaches who were fired from somewhere else. This is probably especially true for the mega clubs. But the bottom line is that if the original poster is happy with his child's team and coach why should he leave just because the club hired someone who is perceived by members of this forum to be a bad dude? And if JA did something really horrible or illegal that is common knowledge why not reveal it here or at the very least let East County Soccer Dad know privately.
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JA
D8958 said:
Let me be clear because you are obviously under the impression that these are trivial issues and you appear to have little knowledge of any actual events.

The issues I am referring to are not club politics or 'that coach or director is bad because I don't like him or disagree with his views.'

At present multiple clubs in San Diego continue to employ or have recently hired a coach or administrator who within the last year has engaged in behavior that I deem to be unacceptable for a youth coach. Some of these individuals coach High School teams as well.

I do not allow my child to play at clubs that hire coaches or administrators that engage in or exhibit the following:
  • Coaches or Administrators that get in fist fights with other adults at team practices in front of their team
  • Coaches or Administrators that engage in embezzlement.
  • Coaches or Administrators that commit acts that violate federal law, including the Federal Stored Communications Act(18 U.S.C. § 2701).
  • Coaches or Administrators that sleep with parents of players on their teams.
To be clear, this list represents the acts of multiple separate incidents of individuals at separate clubs.

I am uncomfortable with a club that either hasn't done enough due diligence to uncover these events or a club that knowingly continues to employ an individual who is engaged in these behaviors.

If the club is employing an individual that is engaging in any single one of the behaviors on that list, that doesn't work for me.

I don't care if the practice field is across from my house.

Even if the individual does not coach my team, I don't like clubs that struggle to be ethical and aren't willing to work hard enough to vet personnel or find good people. I don't want to give them my money and I don't trust them to do the right thing for my child.
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Agreed
JA violated half your list. He was lining his pockets on every angle . Promo money , uniform kick backs, equipment , sub contracting out his job duties, paying his buddies with fake titles(guess who followed him) and after being shut down on his long term sale of the club, the scumbag quit working . Teams , players , coaches, all left stuck without goals, proper equipment , zero communication with the board = fired

People should run the other way
 
Hoodrat said:
JA

Agreed
JA violated half your list. He was lining his pockets on every angle . Promo money , uniform kick backs, equipment , sub contracting out his job duties, paying his buddies with fake titles(guess who followed him) and after being shut down on his long term sale of the club, the scumbag quit working . Teams , players , coaches, all left stuck without goals, proper equipment , zero communication with the board = fired

People should run the other way
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I know two Doc's pockets that parents were greasing big time back in the day when the Girls Development Academy was open for bribes. They quit on everyone when they saw a big out with Covid. Travel company kickbacks for being forced to pay more to play on the road with bullshit pay to stay mandates at expensive hotels that are marked up for extra pay out. Soccer uniform kickbacks is why so many of us are forced to buy new uniforms every year. Forcing parents to pay extra for kid's privates to ensure a starting spot and if dad pays more, he might just pay enough for Doc to put his kid on The List. The Doc that sleeps with mom is a low life scum bag as well. Good luck you guys and I mean that.
 
East County Soccer Dad said:
I'm not so sure. I read their messages as run and don't look back despite lacking substance.
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I just got done reading the posts. This is what I think the dads are trying to tell you, "Run" away. Cheater, liar and thief is how some coach and when parents catch cheaters, liars and thieves in the game, they come on here. I came on here in 2018 to warn parents of a few Docs that were cheating, lying and stealing from parents to make more side hustle money and punish other parents' kids for parents not paying more to ensure a spot on the team or a glowing recommendation to a scout or college coach on your behalf. The more you brown nose coach, kiss his ass and kiss the ring with $$$, the more play time and access one has.

 
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