Age Split.....What are you going to do?

Dummy said:
There seem to be quite a few areas where smaller clubs must have reasonably competitive teams based on their results against DPL teams in National Cup. Some of them might be worth checking out.

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Agree just look at some of the 03 national cup results this weekend some DPL teams might not make it out of round 1. The DPL teams waiting in round 2 better hope they don’t get one of these talented smaller clubs that have been overlooked.
 
You guys realize that’s DPL teams are mostly second and third teams that really aren’t given much attention by their clubs?

Beating a dpl team really isn’t any different than any of the other teams out there? They are just another team of backups.
 
Josep said:
You guys realize that’s DPL teams are mostly second and third teams that really aren’t given much attention by their clubs?

Beating a dpl team really isn’t any different than any of the other teams out there? They are just another team of backups.
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There was a post in one of these streams that mentioned that LA Premier played a key role in forming the DPL. Even LA Premier’s DPL teams don’t seem to be priorities based on National Cup play.

LA Premier didn’t enter a 2000 or 2002 team in National Cup and the 2003 team seems to be off to a less than stellar start. If the driving force behind DPL doesn’t seem to be able to make it work, you may well be correct about DPL teams being just another team of backups.

DPL clubs should be honest with families if this is how they see these teams.
 
I thought the point of DPL was actually more about the opportunities for individuals over that of the team? Isn’t the idea that those who didn’t make a DA squad in the club would get to be in a similar structure and work with/be seen by the DA coaches with the potential to be moved up or get DP’d etc?

If this is the case, it would make sense that the DPL teams are more likely to struggle at this time of the season or not even enter National Cup as they may have moved successful/stronger players up to their DA team full time.
 
SimpleSoccer said:
I thought the point of DPL was actually more about the opportunities for individuals over that of the team? Isn’t the idea that those who didn’t make a DA squad in the club would get to be in a similar structure and work with/be seen by the DA coaches with the potential to be moved up or get DP’d etc?

If this is the case, it would make sense that the DPL teams are more likely to struggle at this time of the season or not even enter National Cup as they may have moved successful/stronger players up to their DA team full time.
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What happens to all the players who did not get moved up? Are DA clubs replacing the “pay to play” model with a “pay to not play model” for DPL players?
 
Dummy said:
What happens to all the players who did not get moved up? Are DA clubs replacing the “pay to play” model with a “pay to not play model” for DPL players?
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Agree that not playing in Nationals Cup at all does seem a little strange and extreme
 
2003’s - 4 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 5 DPL teams in 1st round went 5-4-1.
2002’s - 5 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 4 DPL teams in 1st round go 3-1. This includes the supposed LA Premier team that was not entered. Actually it was their CSL team that dropped.
2001’s - 5 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 4 DPL teams in 1st round go 3-1.
2000’s - DPL does not compete in this age group.
1999’s - This age group is mostly done playing. Only 28 teams (5 DPL) competing starting in May when kids are focused on graduation and prom events.

So nice try at posting fake news.
 
SimpleSoccer said:
I thought the point of DPL was actually more about the opportunities for individuals over that of the team? Isn’t the idea that those who didn’t make a DA squad in the club would get to be in a similar structure and work with/be seen by the DA coaches with the potential to be moved up or get DP’d etc?
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How is this different than any other clubs "B-team"? I'd bet most players agree to play on a B-team at a club because they're hoping to get pulled up to the A-team eventually. If anything I'd think it's even worse for the DPL players who will never be pulled up to Academy (which let's be honest, is the majority of the players) because during the Spring their team appears to be obliterated while the Academy pulls their "best" players and leaves them to play in showcases and tournaments with whomever is left. All for the same price--or possibly even more--than a non-Academy club's A team.
 
fotos4u2 said:
How is this different than any other clubs "B-team"? I'd bet most players agree to play on a B-team at a club because they're hoping to get pulled up to the A-team eventually. If anything I'd think it's even worse for the DPL players who will never be pulled up to Academy (which let's be honest, is the majority of the players) because during the Spring their team appears to be obliterated while the Academy pulls their "best" players and leaves them to play in showcases and tournaments with whomever is left. All for the same price--or possibly even more--than a non-Academy club's A team.
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I wouldn't equate DA with any other clubs A team. Also most other clubs B team players also will not get pulled up to their A team. From the post above I don't see many DPL teams being obliterated but I agree that if players have been pulled up it would affect these teams.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
2003’s - 4 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 5 DPL teams in 1st round went 5-4-1.
2002’s - 5 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 4 DPL teams in 1st round go 3-1. This includes the supposed LA Premier team that was not entered. Actually it was their CSL team that dropped.
2001’s - 5 DPL teams seeded in the 2nd round. 4 DPL teams in 1st round go 3-1.
2000’s - DPL does not compete in this age group.
1999’s - This age group is mostly done playing. Only 28 teams (5 DPL) competing starting in May when kids are focused on graduation and prom events.

So nice try at posting fake news.
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I was wrong. I read the 2002 pools incorrectly and did not understand that there was no 2000 DPL division. I apologize.
 
SoccerLife75 said:
Agree but wasn’t that the point of DPL, just goes to show that DA was never onboard with the whole DPL idea. And if this happens I say DPL will just need to disappear. Or what do you think will happen?
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The older age groups are still combined age groups (including 02/03) and the players who don't make the DA teams can still play DPL. This just makes it so the 03's who are currently DA and do not make the combo team don't run away saying...I"M NOT A DPL PLAYER and end up in ECNL.
 
C.A.M. said:
The older age groups are still combined age groups (including 02/03) and the players who don't make the DA teams can still play DPL. This just makes it so the 03's who are currently DA and do not make the combo team don't run away saying...I"M NOT A DPL PLAYER and end up in ECNL.
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03's are getting their own DA age group next year in the Southwest Conference.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Yes though there seems to be some thought on the forum that there will be an 02/03 team and also an 03 team. Our club announced coaches for 02 and for 03 teams.
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I put up the information from Del Sol that showed an 02/03 DA Combo team and an 03 DA Pilot Team
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Yes though there seems to be some thought on the forum that there will be an 02/03 team and also an 03 team. Our club announced coaches for 02 and for 03 teams.
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My view is there is really little difference between announcing an 02 team and a combo 02/03 team. The best 03s can/will play up on the 02 team. At some point, we are just talking semantics.
 
Southwest, Frontier and maybe one more conference, not yet announced, will have 03 (aka) pilot teams. There is also talks of these conferences having showcases for the 03 teams. The current showcases are good indication for the federation to see which conferences are strong from top to bottom.
 
Based on these RPI which conference will receive U16 03 pilot teams for next season?? Mid-America seems to be the front runner.

U14 Conference Average of RPI
1 Southwest - West Division 0.5292
2 Frontier - Central Division 0.5186
3 Southeast - East Division 0.5021
4 Northwest - West Division 0.4879
5 Mid-America - Central Division 0.4873
6 Atlantic - East Division 0.4787
7 Northeast - East Division 0.4438

U15 Conference Average of RPI
1 Frontier - Central Division 0.5313
2 Mid-America - Central Division 0.5296
3 Southwest - West Division 0.5289
4 Northwest - West Division 0.4958
5 Southeast - East Division 0.4702
6 Northeast - East Division 0.4591
7 Atlantic - East Division 0.4514

U16/17 Conference Average of RPI
1. Frontier - Central Division 0.5389
2. Mid-America - Central Division 0.5282
3. Southeast - East Division 0.5101
4. Southwest - West Division 0.4970
5. Atlantic - East Division 0.4905
6. Northwest - West Division 0.4812
7. Northeast - East Division 0.4453

U18/19 Conference Average of RPI
1 Southwest - West Division 0.5377
2 Mid-America - Central Division 0.5221
3 Frontier - Central Division 0.5151
4 Atlantic - East Division 0.4921
5 Northwest - West Division 0.4804
6 Southeast - East Division 0.4800
7 Northeast - East Division 0.4374
 
4DaLuvoftheGM said:
Based on these RPI which conference will receive U16 03 pilot teams for next season?? Mid-America seems to be the front runner.

U14 Conference Average of RPI
1 Southwest - West Division 0.5292
2 Frontier - Central Division 0.5186
3 Southeast - East Division 0.5021
4 Northwest - West Division 0.4879
5 Mid-America - Central Division 0.4873
6 Atlantic - East Division 0.4787
7 Northeast - East Division 0.4438

U15 Conference Average of RPI
1 Frontier - Central Division 0.5313
2 Mid-America - Central Division 0.5296
3 Southwest - West Division 0.5289
4 Northwest - West Division 0.4958
5 Southeast - East Division 0.4702
6 Northeast - East Division 0.4591
7 Atlantic - East Division 0.4514

U16/17 Conference Average of RPI
1. Frontier - Central Division 0.5389
2. Mid-America - Central Division 0.5282
3. Southeast - East Division 0.5101
4. Southwest - West Division 0.4970
5. Atlantic - East Division 0.4905
6. Northwest - West Division 0.4812
7. Northeast - East Division 0.4453

U18/19 Conference Average of RPI
1 Southwest - West Division 0.5377
2 Mid-America - Central Division 0.5221
3 Frontier - Central Division 0.5151
4 Atlantic - East Division 0.4921
5 Northwest - West Division 0.4804
6 Southeast - East Division 0.4800
7 Northeast - East Division 0.4374
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You also have to consider which Conference’s are asking for it.
 
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