2021 SoCal State Cup

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SoCal has released a list of accepted teams. I’m noticing a number of teams who entered flight 1 being granted an exception to play down in the flight 2 state cup (which says is not allowed on the website). https://socalstatecup.demosphere-secure.com/accepted-teams/2021-2022-accepted-teams



SOCAL 2010 AGE GROUP
G2010 Super Cup
Albion SC San Diego (CA)
ARSENAL FC WEST SGV G10 CASTELLON (CA)
Beach FC LB G10 I. Ayala
CDA Slammers FC G2010 Ohishi (CA)
CDA Slammers FC Pre ECNL G10 Cruz (CA)
CDA Slammers Whittier G10 McCarty Black (CA)
Chelsea SC G2010 Blue (CA)
City SC Carlsbad G2010 Pre Academy (CA)
City SC-Carlsbad G10 Pre-Academy II (CA)
East County Surf G2010 Academy (Johnston
G2010 Pats NBCM
LA Breakers G2010 - Alukonis (CA)
LA Surf - La Canada G2010 (CA)
Laguna United FC G2010 Blue
Murrieta Soccer Academy G10 Academy
Oceanside Breakers G2010 BLK (CA)
Olé SC G2010 (CA)
Rebels Soccer Club G2010 Pre ECNL
San Diego Real Madrid G2010 Vidrio (CA)
Santa Monica Surf G10 Blue (CA)
SD FORCE FC G2010 ACADEMY-WALLACE (CA)
SD Surf Academy Select Girls (Barclay)
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 2
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL1
So Cal Blues G10 Rogers (CA)
SoCal Blues - Leslie Lime (CA)
Strikers FC - Orange County G10 GH Gray (CA)
United Socal Santa Clarita G2010 (Blue) (CA)
West Coast FC G10 Koko


G2010 Elite Cup
Albion SC - San Diego G10 Academy 1 (CA)
Arsenal FC (CA)
Arsenal FC West SGV G10 Serrano (CA)
Beach FC - Long Beach 2010 I. Ayala #2
Beach FC - South Bay 2010 W. Lopez (CA)
Beach FC G2010 Kutscher (CA)
Beach FC LB G10 Johnson (CA)
Cardiff Sockers G10 Blue -Sellers (CA)
CDA Slammers FC - HB G10 Santos (CA)
CDA Slammers Orange G10 Macias Maroon
Cerritos Slammers Eric Gerrits and Rob (CA)
CFA San Clemente G2010 Red Mann
Chelsea SC (White)
Chelsea SC G2011 Blue
Chula Vista FC G2010 Villa (CA)
City SC Carlsbad Premier (CA)
City SC San Marcos G2010 Premier (CA)
City SC Temecula G2010 Premier (CA)
DMCV Sharks - G2010 Faramarzi (CA)
East County Surf G2010 Newman Academy II (CA)
Fram G10 Fox (CA)
Irvine Pateadores G2010 Elson (CA)
LA Breakers FC G2010 Blue
La Surf G2010 (CA)
LA Surf Sherman Oaks G10 Welsh (CA)
LA Surf Sherman Oaks G2010 Black (CA)
LAFC So Cal G2010 Gold
Laguna United FC G2010 White
LASC G10 Guerrero (CA)
Legends - SCV G10 FC
Legends FC San Diego - Gold (CA)
Legends San Diego G10 FC
LUFC-Gold (CA)
Mission Viejo Football Club: G2010-Gold (CA)
NHB Futbol Club NHB Black (CA)
Notts Forest NFFC G2010 Red (CA)
OC Surf North G2010 White (CA)
Pateadores IER G2010 Mendez (CA)
Rangers FC G2010Navy
Rebels G2010 Pre ECRL - Dare
Rebels IE G10-Torres
Salazar CDA Cerritos Slammers G10
Santa Monica Surf SC G2010 White
SD Surf Academy Girls (Greenwood) (CA)
SDSC Surf G10 Pre-DPL (CA)
SDSC Surf G2010 Pre-GA
So Cal Blues - G10 Leslie Blue (CA)
So Cal Blues G2010 Moline
So Cal Elite FC LA Gold G2010 (CA)
SoCal Blues 2010 Sarabia (CA)
South Slammers FC G2010 Elite
Strikers FC- North G10 JL (CA)
StrikersFC OC GH/MM
TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CA)
Tudela FC LA 2010 White (CA)
United SoCal - Downey G2010 Blue
United SoCal - OC/Pacific G2010 Black
West Coast FC G2010 Everett
West Coast FC G2010 Filipovic (CA)
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more insecure coach BS......this rule should not be ENFORCED it is clearly unfair to all the young kids who are in flight 2 and want to compete for a championship.......let me guess the flight 1 team that wins the second tier event will say they are state champs with no mention of it being state cup flight 2......
 
futboldad1 said:
more insecure coach BS......this rule should not be ENFORCED it is clearly unfair to all the young kids who are in flight 2 and want to compete for a championship.......let me guess the flight 1 team that wins the second tier event will say they are state champs with no mention of it being state cup flight 2......
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important typo in my reply above.....can't edit original post so struck it through above
 
Well, I disagree. Its socal admitting they completely botched the flights and are remedying it slightly through state cup bracketing. Also, now that all regions are playing in one flight, the very weak flight 1 teams can be reseeded to play where they would have if there were no regions for league play. Now we wont have any posts about 17-0 state cup games. hopefully
 
It might get fixed before your first game. But definitely bring it to the attention of the league (either through your DOC or directly).
There are a few examples of this in the older groupings too.
 
Honestly, I feel those teams made their own bed here. If they enter flight 2/3 tournaments and advertise yourself as flight 1 to recruit flight 1 players / sell parents you’re flight 1 caliber and then don’t perform well or aren’t a top team, I don’t think it’s fair to go play down mid season. There’s already flight 1 teams playing flight 2 who did this for the regular season (SoCal Elite).

If teams are doing that then there should be repercussions and they need to moved out of flight 1 completely. There’s plenty of ways to test the waters before making the plunge. Sandbagging isn’t one of them and I’m honestly tired of seeing it. It’s becoming too rampant.

if they don’t like that you’re playing some of the best teams in the nation (ie blues, surf, ole, slammers) in your grouping then they should have thought of that before going that route or just take your lumps and grow from it. They also didn’t even have to enter state cup either. It’s optional. That’s $700 less the parents could have been playing abd you could have set up scrimmages to make up for the games.

SoCal and club DOCs / Coaches really need to do a better job vetting which flight they place their teams. I’m also disappointed that we don’t see any CSL teams entering this state cup tournament.
 
jimlewis said:
Well, I disagree. Its socal admitting they completely botched the flights and are remedying it slightly through state cup bracketing. Also, now that all regions are playing in one flight, the very weak flight 1 teams can be reseeded to play where they would have if there were no regions for league play. Now we wont have any posts about 17-0 state cup games. hopefully
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youre using an extreme outlier......there are teams listed that are doing very well in flight 1, winning games and when they lose losing by 1 goal.......
 
We get the same thing in norcal. Teams don’t want to get thumped by a top 10 team, so they register gold/silver. Not very kind to the teams which belong in silver. But it reduces the odds that an Alpine Strikers parent figures out that Woodside is a much stronger team.

Of course, when a top 32 drops down to gold/silver, someone else gets bumped up. One of our groups has two teams ranked below 90, both in the top 32 bracket. You have to wonder what anyone is going to learn from those games.
 
I have Oct 16 and Nov 20 for State Cup but that’s tentative as I haven’t seen anything actually scheduled (location/opponent). ECNL showcase is this coming weekend for some of the 2010s.
 
Brackets are out. Here they are with YSR data. Top team from each flight advances. Brackets with odd number of teams does cross play.

Flight ASoCa YSR RankN YSR RankYSR Score
SD Surf Academy Select Girls (Barclay) 1 2 31.84
Beach FC LB G10 I. Ayala 31 237 27.48
ARSENAL FC WEST SGV G10 CASTELLON (CA) 43 317 27.06
Total Futbol Academy - TFA-SGV G2010 (CA) 57 403 26.65
LA Surf - La Canada G2010 (CA) 62 457 26.43
Strikers FC - Orange County G10 GH Gray (CA) 86 670 25.63
Flight B
So Cal Blues G10 Rogers (CA) 2 3 31.80
Sand and Surf SC G10 Elite 14 121 28.48
East County Surf G2010 Academy (Johnston (CA) 23 190 27.85
Legends - SCV G10 FC (CA) 53 371 26.78
Laguna United FC G2010 Blue 68 490 26.24
Arsenal FC G2010 (CA) 92 728 25.45
Flight C
Olé SC G2010 (CA) 6 20 30.30
City SC Carlsbad G2010 Pre Academy (CA) 11 54 29.38
CDA Slammers Whittier G10 McCarty Black (CA) 15 135 28.31
LA Breakers G2010 - Alukonis (CA) 28 222 27.60
Legends FC Legends Temecula Valley G10FC (CA) 32 255 27.40
Flight D
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL1 5 16 30.47
LFCIA G10 Academy 12 90 28.86
SoCal Blues - Leslie Lime (CA) 35 269 27.33
Chelsea SC G2010 Blue (CA) 38 293 27.17
G2010 Pats NBCM 66 479 26.31
Flight E
Legends FC G2010 (CA) 22 179 27.91
West Coast FC G10 Koko 16 136 28.31
TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CA) 19 155 28.08
United Socal Santa Clarita G2010 (Blue) (CA) 24 207 27.73
Santa Monica Surf G10 Blue (CA) 95 754 25.37
Flight F
Beach FC SB G2010 Souza 4 15 30.49
CDA Slammers FC G2010 Ohishi (CA) 8 37 29.85
City SC-Carlsbad G10 Pre-Academy II (CA) 27 218 27.66
SD FORCE FC G2010 ACADEMY-WALLACE (CA) 47 339 26.93
Beach FC G2010 Kutscher (CA) 51 359 26.82
Flight G
Murrieta Soccer Academy G10 Academy 36 278 27.29
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 2 17 146 28.16
CDA Slammers FC Pre ECNL G10 Cruz (CA) 25 210 27.72
SoCal Blues 2010 Sarabia (CA) 61 424 26.57
Legends G10Gold (CA) 88 677 25.61
Flight H
Albion SC San Diego (CA) 10 42 29.72
San Diego Real Madrid G2010 Vidrio (CA) 37 283 27.24
Rebels Soccer Club G2010 Pre ECNL 42 306 27.12
LASC G10 Guerrero (CA) 48 346 26.89
Oceanside Breakers G2010 BLK (CA) 156 1,361 23.91
 
This is how brackets would look like if they were balanced using high vs low rankings with YSR data. The average YSR is more contestant across all groupings versus the current bracket system. I know nothing is perfect, but this one makes more sense to me.

Flight A SoCa YSR Rank N YSR Rank YSR Score
SD Surf Academy Select Girls (Barclay) 1 2 31.84
East County Surf G2010 Academy (Johnston (CA) 23 190 27.85
CDA Slammers FC Pre ECNL G10 Cruz (CA) 25 210 27.72
Chelsea SC G2010 Blue (CA) 38 293 27.17
SoCal Blues 2010 Sarabia (CA) 61 424 26.57
Oceanside Breakers G2010 BLK (CA) 156 1,361 23.91
Flight B
So Cal Blues G10 Rogers (CA) 2 3 31.80
Legends FC G2010 (CA) 22 179 27.91
United Socal Santa Clarita G2010 (Blue) (CA) 24 207 27.73
San Diego Real Madrid G2010 Vidrio (CA) 37 283 27.24
Total Futbol Academy - TFA-SGV G2010 (CA) 57 403 26.65
Santa Monica Surf G10 Blue (CA) 95 754 25.37
Flight C
Beach FC SB G2010 Souza 4 15 30.49
TFA-OC G2010 Mora (CA) 19 155 28.08
Murrieta Soccer Academy G10 Academy 36 278 27.29
Legends - SCV G10 FC (CA) 53 371 26.78
Arsenal FC G2010 (CA) 92 728 25.45
Flight D
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL1 5 16 30.47
Slammers FC G2010 PA/BL 2 17 146 28.16
SoCal Blues - Leslie Lime (CA) 35 269 27.33
Beach FC G2010 Kutscher (CA) 51 359 26.82
Legends G10Gold (CA) 88 677 25.61
Flight E
Olé SC G2010 (CA) 6 20 30.30
West Coast FC G10 Koko 16 136 28.31
Legends FC Legends Temecula Valley G10FC (CA) 32 255 27.40
LASC G10 Guerrero (CA) 48 346 26.89
Strikers FC - Orange County G10 GH Gray (CA) 86 670 25.63
Flight F
CDA Slammers FC G2010 Ohishi (CA) 8 37 29.85
CDA Slammers Whittier G10 McCarty Black (CA) 15 135 28.31
Beach FC LB G10 I. Ayala 31 237 27.48
SD FORCE FC G2010 ACADEMY-WALLACE (CA) 47 339 26.93
Laguna United FC G2010 Blue 68 490 26.24
Flight G
Albion SC San Diego (CA) 10 42 29.72
Sand and Surf SC G10 Elite 14 121 28.48
LA Breakers G2010 - Alukonis (CA) 28 222 27.60
ARSENAL FC WEST SGV G10 CASTELLON (CA) 43 317 27.06
G2010 Pats NBCM 66 479 26.31
Flight H
City SC Carlsbad G2010 Pre Academy (CA) 11 54 29.38
LFCIA G10 Academy 12 90 28.86
City SC-Carlsbad G10 Pre-Academy II (CA) 27 218 27.66
Rebels Soccer Club G2010 Pre ECNL 42 306 27.12
LA Surf - La Canada G2010 (CA) 62 457 26.43
 
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