2020...

This is so good, hearing the Dem candidates talk about the takeover of our economy by billionaires and the corps they run for shareholder benefit, at the expense of labor and the middle class and American manufacturing.
 
This is so good, hearing the Dem candidates talk about the takeover of our economy by billionaires and the corps they run for shareholder benefit, at the expense of labor and the middle class and American manufacturing.
For your sake I hope someone better shows up tomorrow, if you listen real close you can hear trump laughing.
 
Its a job that can only be done for so long.
I cant imagine the pressure of that job.

If that lady had a "minor" superhero power... it was the ability to not say anything, but just give that look that could make you feel dumb. And when you're walking out and answering questions about some of the decisions coming out of the White House, I don't think the ability to win arguments without even opening one's mouth can be understated.
 
This is so good, hearing the Dem candidates talk about the takeover of our economy by billionaires and the corps they run for shareholder benefit, at the expense of labor and the middle class and American manufacturing.

I just couldn't bring myself to watch the debate. However, I am open to listening to the thoughts of others who watched. What did you think Messy? There is a write up on it in USA Today down below. Fairly non-partisan. In hopes of starting a good conversation, I'm not sure who all this talk about Marriane Williamson winning is good for?

Biden is in the just survive the debate boat, so I guess it's good for him?
But Sanders and Warren were both on the stage together, and surely that we're not talking about them means it's now up to Harris to expose Biden again- and out of their hands. If they want to win. Well... if "they." Let's speak frankly, they both can't win. And if they try it's hard to see how they don't split the vote. Should be some compelling tv.
And of course Marriane Williamson deserves praise. People laughed at Trump winning, so with political miracles happening around me, let me just say that perhaps this is only a taste of what is to come for her political career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...2019-takeaways-july-detroit-event/1857748001/
 
I just couldn't bring myself to watch the debate. However, I am open to listening to the thoughts of others who watched. What did you think Messy? There is a write up on it in USA Today down below. Fairly non-partisan. In hopes of starting a good conversation, I'm not sure who all this talk about Marriane Williamson winning is good for?

Biden is in the just survive the debate boat, so I guess it's good for him?
But Sanders and Warren were both on the stage together, and surely that we're not talking about them means it's now up to Harris to expose Biden again- and out of their hands. If they want to win. Well... if "they." Let's speak frankly, they both can't win. And if they try it's hard to see how they don't split the vote. Should be some compelling tv.
And of course Marriane Williamson deserves praise. People laughed at Trump winning, so with political miracles happening around me, let me just say that perhaps this is only a taste of what is to come for her political career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...2019-takeaways-july-detroit-event/1857748001/
Marianne Williamson was great, but you’re right, who cares? She should stick to California, where we like thinkers like her...e.g. Jerry Brown.
Warren and Bernie dominated, as Warren always seems to now. She’s a socialist, but Trump is a fascist, so you never know if she can get it done. I see her as being in the driver’s seat over Biden. She’s strong, smart and has big ideas. I’m afraid, however, that suggesting we turn our economy over to “the people” (workers, small businesses, environmentalists, etc.) and away from “the corporations” is not a message that Americans like. Americans like the corporations running things...under Clinton or Bush or Obama or Trump, that’s where we are comfortable. But she looks, to me, like the presumptive nominee over Biden and Harris.
My personal choice is Mayor Pete...but he’s not owning it in these debates at all. Maybe he’s too sensible.
 
I just couldn't bring myself to watch the debate. However, I am open to listening to the thoughts of others who watched. What did you think Messy? There is a write up on it in USA Today down below. Fairly non-partisan. In hopes of starting a good conversation, I'm not sure who all this talk about Marriane Williamson winning is good for?

Biden is in the just survive the debate boat, so I guess it's good for him?
But Sanders and Warren were both on the stage together, and surely that we're not talking about them means it's now up to Harris to expose Biden again- and out of their hands. If they want to win. Well... if "they." Let's speak frankly, they both can't win. And if they try it's hard to see how they don't split the vote. Should be some compelling tv.
And of course Marriane Williamson deserves praise. People laughed at Trump winning, so with political miracles happening around me, let me just say that perhaps this is only a taste of what is to come for her political career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...2019-takeaways-july-detroit-event/1857748001/
Williamson, from Michigan, isn't a politician and is too deep and real for America. She looks at the root cause of a problem not to where the political foothold is.
 
Warrens legacy: The Bail-in provision of the Dodd-Frank that allows banks, in crisis, to convert savings and bonds to equities in defunct TBTF banks.
 
The most prominent Medicare for All plan—that of Senator Bernie Sanders—would have no co-pays, no deductibles, and no premiums. That would surely increase the demand for health services, relative to today’s system, far beyond just the increased demand from the newly covered. Pricing medical services at zero to the consumer means they will demand an amount up to the point that the expected benefits to them are worth nothing rather than the 20 percent or more co-pay prevalent in most plans today.

With no plausible increase in supply (in fact, projected shortages of doctors would likely worsen, and some hospitals would fold) and regulated pricing (Medicare provider reimbursements run about 40 percent less than those from private insurance), the immediate result would be long waits and crowding out for everything from doctor visits to hospital beds. A mini-version of that happened with Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion.

Pressure to raise regulated reimbursements (currently low but adjusted for prevailing local market conditions) from dissatisfied voters forced to switch into the system would be intense. If that happened, explicit costs would soar, as would the taxes necessary
to pay for them. In fact, current Medicare, with its low reimbursement rates, would be unsustainable without the large role played by the higher-paying private (primarily employer-based) plans in keeping doctors and hospitals in business. Even the New York Times had to admit in a front page story that “Some hospitals, especially struggling rural centers, would close virtually overnight, according to policy experts. Others, they say, would try to offset the steep cuts by laying off hundreds of thousands of workers and abandoning lower paying services like mental health.”-Epstein
 
If that lady had a "minor" superhero power... it was the ability to not say anything, but just give that look that could make you feel dumb. And when you're walking out and answering questions about some of the decisions coming out of the White House, I don't think the ability to win arguments without even opening one's mouth can be understated.
It must be an excruciating job.
Obama had three, and he had a friendly press.
 
This is so good, hearing the Dem candidates talk about the takeover of our economy by billionaires and the corps they run for shareholder benefit, at the expense of labor and the middle class and American manufacturing.
Sounds like the typical communist party platform.
 
"Might as well Fed-Ex the election to Trump"

Well if last night was any indication of who the Dems are counting on to run for President then yea... the above quote is correct.
 
I learned something last night. Liberals believe that climate change is endangering our entire universe.

BTW... what is the carbon footprint of these debates?
 
Sounds like the typical communist party platform.

I see where you're going with that.... but, at the same time the shrinking middle class and growing divide between rich and poor are signs of unhealthy capitalism in my mind. That's what you see in third world countries and I do believe we can do better.

I maybe don't agree with Bernie's solution, but much like Trump I think he's clearly saying he's got a plan to fix it. My problem with both of them is their ideas are so far removed from the main stream they simply can't get through the Legislative Branch. So just more stagnation paid for by deficit spending. Again, I just feel we can do better.
 
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