2020 Women's D1 Soccer Talk!!!! EXTENDED TO SPRING '21!!!!

Looks like the field of 48 is in! Does anyone know why the PAC-12 doesn't have a conference tourney?
 
Dubs said:
All other Power 5s do... Just have no clue why PAC 12 does not.
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In a normal season, the Pac teams play about 19 games and play each conference foe once. In 2019, Stanford played 25 games. Do they really need to play 3 more (an 8 team tournament) or even 2 more (4 team)? An 8 team tournament probably means 2 weekends (and 2 if you have all 12 and give top seeds a bye in the first round). The Pac was one of the last to adopt a conference tourney for hoops and while it was pretty exciting to see Oregon State go on a run, that's a lot of games in a short period of time. I don't think you could do that for soccer (the Sunday games are often more raggedy; imagine if they played Wed, Fri, Sun or Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun).

It would be exciting and it would give an upstart program a chance (look at Iowa in the Big 10. And I'd like my kid to have a chance to get a couple more games) but, on balance, I'm glad they don't presently have one.
 
dk_b said:
(not directed @Dubs but to the discussion)

In a normal season, the Pac teams play about 19 games and play each conference foe once. In 2019, Stanford played 25 games. Do they really need to play 3 more (an 8 team tournament) or even 2 more (4 team)? An 8 team tournament probably means 2 weekends (and 2 if you have all 12 and give top seeds a bye in the first round). The Pac was one of the last to adopt a conference tourney for hoops and while it was pretty exciting to see Oregon State go on a run, that's a lot of games in a short period of time. I don't think you could do that for soccer (the Sunday games are often more raggedy; imagine if they played Wed, Fri, Sun or Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun).

It would be exciting and it would give an upstart program a chance (look at Iowa in the Big 10. And I'd like my kid to have a chance to get a couple more games) but, on balance, I'm glad they don't presently have one.
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I see... so it's really related to the amount of games they play for their non-conference schedule? That makes sense. But, I'm with you... It would make things more exciting to have a conference tourney and crown a champion that way.
 
Dubs said:
All other Power 5s do... Just have no clue why PAC 12 does not.
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Just because others do, it doesn’t mean they should or that it’s a good idea. Pac-12 sends more than enough teams to the tournament and I am certain those teams wouldn’t want to add more games to risk injuries or having their players fatigued heading into the tournament.
And if they did, How many teams should make the conference tournament? 8? Which is about what they send to the tournament anyway.
 
Wwood said:
Just because others do, it doesn’t mean they should or that it’s a good idea. Pac-12 sends more than enough teams to the tournament and I am certain those teams wouldn’t want to add more games to risk injuries or having their players fatigued heading into the tournament.
And if they did, How many teams should make the conference tournament? 8? Which is about what they send to the tournament anyway.
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I'm not saying one way or the other. I just never understood why Pac-12 does not have one. DK has given good context and it makes sense. However, as I said above, it would be exciting to have one.
 
Dubs said:
I'm not saying one way or the other. I just never understood why Pac-12 does not have one. DK has given good context and it makes sense. However, as I said above, it would be exciting to have one.
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Exactly. I’m not advocating for it - I’m not in favor - but there’s no denying it would be exciting. I can think of some teams that in a one and done could pull upsets.
 
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