2018-2019 SW ECNL Conference Discussion

So where did last years U15 Blues team end up going?
Good luck to all of the players playing on their new teams!
1 Blues 02 da
1 Pats 02 da
1 La Galaxy 03 da
3 Oc Surf 03 da
1 Heat 03 ecnl
2 Blues 03 ecnl
3 Strikers 03 ecnl
1 Slammers 04 ecnl
1 Pats 02 dpl
1 Pats 03 dpl
1 Oc Surf 03 dpl
1 Pats Irvine 02 Scdsl
1 Legends 03 Scdsl
1 Slammers 03 Scdsl
 
Good luck to all of the players playing on their new teams!
1 Blues 02 da
1 Pats 02 da
1 La Galaxy 03 da
3 Oc Surf 03 da
1 Heat 03 ecnl
2 Blues 03 ecnl
3 Strikers 03 ecnl
1 Slammers 04 ecnl
1 Pats 02 dpl
1 Pats 03 dpl
1 Oc Surf 03 dpl
1 Pats Irvine 02 Scdsl
1 Legends 03 Scdsl
1 Slammers 03 Scdsl
Wow! Hopefully that wasn't a team that played together for several years? Would've been hard to disband given they all went different ways.

However, may have been good for them individually as it seems they weren't a strong team collectively from a W's and L's perspective....I believe they were 7th in u15 SW ECNL last season? Either which way agree ... hoping the best for all the players!
 
Question for @Desert Hound and any other AZ forum members... I saw the discussions that with 2 DA clubs and 2 ECNL clubs now in AZ, the elite talent in has been diluted or spread thin. What is the consensus on which clubs consolidated the most of that talent? Are the Phoenix Rising and AZ Arsenal teams mostly similar to their ECNL teams from last year or was there a lot of player movement in the offseason to the DA sides?
 
Question for @Desert Hound and any other AZ forum members... I saw the discussions that with 2 DA clubs and 2 ECNL clubs now in AZ, the elite talent in has been diluted or spread thin. What is the consensus on which clubs consolidated the most of that talent? Are the Phoenix Rising and AZ Arsenal teams mostly similar to their ECNL teams from last year or was there a lot of player movement in the offseason to the DA sides?
It is early...

I think however del Sol DA has the best talent overall. Then you go RSL DA. Why do I think del Sol is in the best spot now? They were the better ECNL club (when there was just del Sol and Sereno) to start with, and when they got DA last year, garnered even more interest.

Neither Rising or Arsenal had ECNL last year. Sereno (who is now RSL) had ECNL and lost it when they got DA. So those ECNL players that did not make DA tended to move to RSL DPL, del Sol (DPL or DA) and Phx Rising ECNL. Arsenal is tucked away in a corner of Phoenix, so for most the drive is too far to go out there.

So the best talent are on the DA teams. Then you have del Sol DPL, RSL DPL, Rising ECNL and Arsenal ECNL. How well those non DA options stack up vs each other has yet to be seen.

I think we are spread thin with the various options listed above.
 
To expand further. And I cannot say this is true for all age groups...but I think it is.

Those former ECNL girls from Sereno that are now on the various DPL teams or the new ECNL teams will tell you that their respective team is not as good as last year. A step down quality wise.

On the other hand...the girls NEW to the DPL or ECNL all think they have upgraded (and they have relative to last year).
 
It is early...

I think however del Sol DA has the best talent overall. Then you go RSL DA. Why do I think del Sol is in the best spot now? They were the better ECNL club (when there was just del Sol and Sereno) to start with, and when they got DA last year, garnered even more interest.

Neither Rising or Arsenal had ECNL last year. Sereno (who is now RSL) had ECNL and lost it when they got DA. So those ECNL players that did not make DA tended to move to RSL DPL, del Sol (DPL or DA) and Phx Rising ECNL. Arsenal is tucked away in a corner of Phoenix, so for most the drive is too far to go out there.

So the best talent are on the DA teams. Then you have del Sol DPL, RSL DPL, Rising ECNL and Arsenal ECNL. How well those non DA options stack up vs each other has yet to be seen.

I think we are spread thin with the various options listed above.
Interesting. From that, I would gather that DA is the clear top choice over ECNL at least in your state. Also, it doesn't sound like you think many kids who were in ECNL with Del Sol and Sereno switched to Phx Rising or Arsenal in order to stay in ECNL. Is that correct? Also, who was Phoenix Rising before?
 
Interesting. From that, I would gather that DA is the clear top choice over ECNL at least in your state. Also, it doesn't sound like you think many kids who were in ECNL with Del Sol and Sereno switched to Phx Rising or Arsenal in order to stay in ECNL. Is that correct? Also, who was Phoenix Rising before?

Scottsdale Blackhawks Chapman. They just got smashed 3-0 in ECNL league play by So Cal Blues ECNL who struggle against the top Southern Cali teams so doesn't look like they're too strong, but in all previous years they were rated highly.
 
Interesting. From that, I would gather that DA is the clear top choice over ECNL at least in your state. Also, it doesn't sound like you think many kids who were in ECNL with Del Sol and Sereno switched to Phx Rising or Arsenal in order to stay in ECNL. Is that correct? Also, who was Phoenix Rising before?
Right now DA be it del Sol or RSL has the best talent.

Will that continue to be the case? Who knows. ECNL does offer something very attractive.

In years past when girls got to a certain age they moved to del Sol or Sereno. Blackhawks was a club that lost many of those players (many of the top players right now on del Sol are former Blackhawks). Blackhawks by the way at the end of last season changed their name to Phx Rising (which is the local USL pro team). The have an affiliation or partnership agreement of some sort.

Going forward there is less reason for kids on Rising or Arsenal to jump ship to del Sol and RSL vs years past. And for kids from other clubs? Well now they have options be it DA or ECNL. Both offer a good platform and both offer much better competition and exposure vs staying in AZ and playing in one of the local leagues.
 
There are girls that left del Sol and RSL for ECNL at Rising and Arsenal. Not large #s, but there still was some movement. The ones that left where not getting a lot of playing time at del Sol DA or didn't make RSL DA.
 
Scottsdale Blackhawks Chapman. They just got smashed 3-0 in ECNL league play by So Cal Blues ECNL who struggle against the top Southern Cali teams so doesn't look like they're too strong, but in all previous years they were rated highly.

Just an FYI the score of that game was not a good indication of how that game played out. The Blackhawk/Rising team was definitely more skilled than my DD team. I would say the game was pretty even. Rising probably had more shots on goal but none of them went in. Sometimes that happens. My DD team has struggled all year to put the ball in the net and surprisingly on that day they converted at a higher rate than normal.
 
If you look at Del sol DPL teams record in State league last year you will see they are not better then the 2 ECNL teams and below many other non ECNL teams in some age groups in AZ. Del Sol DPL only had 1 team make it to state finals and they lost.
 
Scottsdale Blackhawks Chapman. They just got smashed 3-0 in ECNL league play by So Cal Blues ECNL who struggle against the top Southern Cali teams so doesn't look like they're too strong, but in all previous years they were rated highly.


This team lost players to Del Sol DA, its a little different than in the past.
 
If you look at Del sol DPL teams record in State league last year you will see they are not better then the 2 ECNL teams and below many other non ECNL teams in some age groups in AZ. Del Sol DPL only had 1 team make it to state finals and they lost.
I don't think you can say that for this year. A lot of movement this year at the ECNL and DPL level. To say that del Sol DPL is not better vs the ECNL teams this year is a stretch. And I certainly would not say it the other way as well. I think it is far to early to make that determination.
 
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