2018-2019 SW ECNL Conference Discussion

outside! said:
I tend to agree with you, but I would like to see this play out a bit. There could be more developments in this story.
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If there could be more developments, they should have already told their families. But they have not as far as I am aware.
 
When Surf left Presidio was there any positives for the teams that could have competed in San Diego.... NO.

Without any information coming out now, if I was a Surf parent of an ECNL player, I would be looking at what was the current best avenue to accomplish my dds goal. It might be to leave or it could mean staying. But I would not just sit there and hope for the best. These are high school girls, many with aspirations of playing in college and their needs should come first.
 
Fact said:
What a load of crap. The old bait and switch by Surf. Families paid weeks ago for the upcoming ECNL season and are now just told no ECNL. The only other ECNL club in San Diego, Sharks, has full rosters in some of their age groups. This should be an opportunity for Albion to become competitive in DA but I know most families will stay at Surf just like when they pulled out of Presidio. They will complain to everyone but Surf about how they were screwed but are too weak to stand up to this bs.
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No BS, no bait and switch. Surf had a different view and position that they could support both programs that ultimately in the end wasn't aligned with ECNL. They hired Brian Reed as Director of ECNL at the beginning of the year, don't think you would throw good money to hire a coach away from the LA Galaxy MLS team if you thought you were losing ECNL.

From Rob Becerra and Brian Reed's article with GoalNation:

"ECNL has created a genuine platform of excellence, and showcasing all its benefits and plus reminding players of the social side where they can still play soccer in high school — the ECNL pathway can make more sense for many top “Amazing Young Women” who are looking to go to college. Typically, clubs with both DA and ECNL, might take their best coaches and assign them to the DA teams. At Surf, we are continuing to invest in our ECNL program. We’ve brought in Brian as dedicated resource, and we will continue to build our ECNL program into one of the best programs in the US. For many ECNL is the right choice. We never want ECNL players and their families to feel like they are second. They are first, but just in a different arena."

Interested to know what requirement from ECNL Surf didn't meet and Blues did?
 
Funny that SD Surf just yesterday listed their players that were honored with ECNL All Conference awards.
And that Slammers was touting their DA championship on their social media pages last week.

Will Surf make a formal announcement? Surely there has to be some sort of positive spin on why they and OC Surf will only have DA now.

I have a feeling all of this is going to get worse before it gets better.
 
Carlsbad10 said:
No BS, no bait and switch. Surf had a different view and position that they could support both programs that ultimately in the end wasn't aligned with ECNL. They hired Brian Reed as Director of ECNL at the beginning of the year, don't think you would throw good money to hire a coach away from the LA Galaxy MLS team if you thought you were losing ECNL.

From Rob Becerra and Brian Reed's article with GoalNation:

"ECNL has created a genuine platform of excellence, and showcasing all its benefits and plus reminding players of the social side where they can still play soccer in high school — the ECNL pathway can make more sense for many top “Amazing Young Women” who are looking to go to college. Typically, clubs with both DA and ECNL, might take their best coaches and assign them to the DA teams. At Surf, we are continuing to invest in our ECNL program. We’ve brought in Brian as dedicated resource, and we will continue to build our ECNL program into one of the best programs in the US. For many ECNL is the right choice. We never want ECNL players and their families to feel like they are second. They are first, but just in a different arena."

Interested to know what requirement from ECNL Surf didn't meet and Blues did?
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So as a Surf parent you must know by now that Surf alleges that they did not see this coming and have nothing bigger or better planned.

So then the next question would be why were they making promises to ECNL families without having a guarantee with ECNL in place?
 
Simisoccerfan said:
My guess is that ECNL is retaliating against Surf for their affiliation with SoCal Sports Complex hosting the DA.
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Another stupid remark by the Pansy.

This most likely stems from Surf thinking that they can have their cake and eat it too. They got greedy when they opted into the DPL 03 Pilot, thereby essentially making their 03 ECNl team third string. Blues looks like they made the better business decision now.
 
timbuck said:
Funny that SD Surf just yesterday listed their players that were honored with ECNL All Conference awards.
And that Slammers was touting their DA championship on their social media pages last week.

Will Surf make a formal announcement? Surely there has to be some sort of positive spin on why they and OC Surf will only have DA now.

I have a feeling all of this is going to get worse before it gets better.
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You mean because OC Surf has neither ECNL or DA?
 
transplant said:
What does a team have to win these days to be a "National Champion"?
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Great question, I would argue there isn’t really any true “national” titles beyond U13 where there is only US Youth Soccer Nationals. But clubs claim national titles for any of ECNL, DA, US Youth Nationals. Always thought it was a joke for Carlsbad United/ LAGSD to claim a national title for their U16 and U18 teams when the best teams were in ECNL.
 
Carlsbad10 said:
Great question, I would argue there isn’t really any true “national” titles beyond U13 where there is only US Youth Soccer Nationals. But clubs claim national titles for any of ECNL, DA, US Youth Nationals. Always thought it was a joke for Carlsbad United/ LAGSD to claim a national title for their U16 and U18 teams when the best teams were in ECNL.
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Most of the best teams were in ECNL, but not all. The U16 team beat Surf's defending ECNL National Champs at Surf Cup a couple of years before that. That is the problem with closed leagues like DA/GDA and ECNL, they don't include all of the best teams due to politics and corruption.
 
transplant said:
What does a team have to win these days to be a "National Champion"?
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I once heard a DOC refer to their boys u14 team winning "National Cup" in Cal-South as "We won a national championship." I don't know if they did anything at Far West Regionals or beyond.

Edit: Just looked it up. Appears this "National Champion" didn't attend Far West Regionals that year. The 2nd place team took their spot. Pretty sure it's because the coach bailed and moved to another state.
 
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