Are they going to bring back the girls that made it to the top 36 at tryouts? Or is it a entirely new group?
2006 - ODP Player Pool
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Are they going to bring back the girls that made it to the top 36 at tryouts? Or is it a entirely new group?
silverback
SILVER
Bringing back the final 24 that were in Ojai plus another 20 or so. I would imagine these could be anyone, including girls that were in the 36 but not in the last 24. Again, to the best of my knowledge and recollection.
I have read a bunch of stuff on this forum, why do people think getting selected to ODP does not matter or is a joke? It seems like a nice acknowledgement/accomplishment for the kids and used to mean something. Is it sour grapes or just too political and I realize the landscape is so different today.....new to this in 2010's and have no idea....much different from when I grew up, you had district tryouts and created a team, went to a state tournament/tryout, and then a state team formed with alternates, goes to regional camp, and plays in a tournament/tryout and regional team and alternates are formed, and then to Nat'l camp tournament/tryout..... etc.
Given this was in the late 80's early 90's but at least the net seems wider (anybody can show-up for a district tryout) and the kids compete....seems better than Coach or DOC nominations....
Given this was in the late 80's early 90's but at least the net seems wider (anybody can show-up for a district tryout) and the kids compete....seems better than Coach or DOC nominations....
chargerfan
GOLD
At this age, it means very little. It's all coach/DOC selection.
It's a joke. ODP means nothing these days. It's a money maker for two people working for CalSouth. Back in the day, it was something. No more.
Lambchop
GOLD
With the start of DA this last September on the girls side, ODP is no longer mostly the top players because DA players are not allowed to participate in ODP. I said mostly because there are a few great players who play ECNL so are able to play ODP. Also, for those not in DA it is still another opportunity to train with and play with players from out of your area.
This time around for this age group ODP had scouts at SC. I spoke with our coach and he did not give any rec's.
chargerfan
GOLD
I have asked odp coaches and they said it's coach and doc recommendation. A scout comes and watches a little at state cup. But the list always includes girls that no longer play soccer, are in the wrong age group, or lists them as playing for clubs they no longer play for. It's a joke.
You are correct, but this year for this age group alone I don't believe coaches were asked. I can at least attest to ours not talking to anyone from ODP and we had 7 girls chosen.
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
Online there's always someone more than willing to tell you why you, your kid, and/or your team sucks. There are plenty of those people here. They're the same people who go troll the U-9 and U-10 forums and tell the parents to not get their hopes up or be excited because their kid is going to suck once they hit puberty.
soccerchaffeur
SILVER
They've killed the U10 forum. Bitter know-it-alls
We need to show some of the newbies how to effectively use the “IGNORE” button!
Newbies ask for advice. Would you prefer the advice from a clueless parent or one that has been in your shoes multiple times with multiple kids?
Look, ODP used to be a true all-star team that included kids who could compete with the national team kids, especially in so cal. It was a feather in your kid's cap to be selected. But the last 2-3 years it's really become a joke. Political nominations, ECNL kids opting out, parents getting wise to the ruse, and finally the nail in the coffin: with the DA, 90% of the top kids cannot participate. Remind me what the "O" stands for again?
It is what it is. Just take it with a grain of salt when they invite 100 "top" kids to an ID camp to scrimmage for 5 hours straight after they pump you up telling you that this is where your kid's journey to the National Team begins.
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
I know we're talking about ODP here, but I have more a problem with the bitter and jaded parents here that want to pee in everyone's corn flakes because their kid didn't progress the way they expected. There is a difference between, "This was my experience, take it for what it's worth," and "Don't get excited because your kid is going to suck once she turns 14 and the Flight 2/Silver girls catch up to her (*because this is what happened to my daughter and I'm bitter about it so I want to make everyone else feel miserable*)."
As far as ODP goes, I don't even care about the sales job they try to put on you. I prefer to think of the positives, such as:
- Having the opportunity to play under a different coach/philosophy
- Having the opportunity to play with skilled players from across SoCal
- Being recognized as a good player (there were plenty of good players in Ventura). This can change how a player perceives themselves and how they approach the game/training.
How often do the odp team practice together?
Never? It's a joke.
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
Negative Nancy.
It's nice that your kid made odp, but this can work the other way too. I've known people for whom this experience has led them to abandon soccer altogether and they were good players. Take it with a grain of salt. Especially at 2006-- what is that? U12??
All the ID processes happen too young in this sport. It can be discouraging for promising kids. As bad as it is for the kids, it's worse for the sport. I'd say this is one of the main reasons why a lot of great athletes abandon this sport in favor of others. It's one of the main reasons I feel soccer will never be particularly successful in this country where there are a lot of sports choices for talented kids.
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
> I've known people for whom this experience has led them to abandon soccer altogether and they were good players.
I'm interested in hearing your story(ies).
. . . .and CSL, DPL, SCDSL. I can comfortably say that up to the 2004 (and most likely 2003) age groups, the next best players are spread out over these three leagues AND ECNL. None of these leagues have a lock on the next level talent after DA. The top teams from all these leagues are very evenly matched. Not attacking you, just pointing out for the youngers that if you're not DA you don't HAVE to be ECNL.
Lambchop
GOLD
Up through this year it doesn't matter what league the U littles (2005's and younger) play for.