2006 DA

Kickers99 said:
The 06 kids that are not playing in favor of the 07's, are they injured or something?
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LAG definitely has digressed and it could have been worse. LAG had 3 07s playing up. Pats had their normal 2 that have playing up all season. LAG did not seem happy and some grumblings from the sideline in regards to coach MC
 
Food for thought-Everyone is giving props to LAG for playing up 07's, could it be they have already written off the 06 team this season. Not at all saying some of those kids are not talented but they have struggled all season if it was true development wouldn't the 06's be getting a chance up at 05's and so on. Other than when the 05 players were suspended from the incident at YNT Camp the 06's are not being pulled up could it be because this year the 05's are successful after struggling last year and they like the wins (yep I said it - clubs, directors, coaches, parents players enjoy winning and the benefits that come with it). Pats don't play up there top 06's when there is a tough game.
 
The 05’s struggled last year and the 06’s are struggling this year. The common denominator is MC.
Not all professional players make good coaches. Hat off to pats or a job well done they dominated the game from the blow of the whistle.
 
Carl said:
Food for thought-Everyone is giving props to LAG for playing up 07's, could it be they have already written off the 06 team this season. Not at all saying some of those kids are not talented but they have struggled all season if it was true development wouldn't the 06's be getting a chance up at 05's and so on. Other than when the 05 players were suspended from the incident at YNT Camp the 06's are not being pulled up could it be because this year the 05's are successful after struggling last year and they like the wins (yep I said it - clubs, directors, coaches, parents players enjoy winning and the benefits that come with it). Pats don't play up there top 06's when there is a tough game.
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Agreed. So what happens to those 06 kids that didn't get rostered to play? Do they just sit home and develop there?
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend. home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
Predict: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 6. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 3. Per game report, looks like it was close until about the 65th minute. One LAFC player went for a brace and likely was a tough match-up for RSC.

Also, per the game report, RSC did not have five players rostered. Not sure if these players have dropped or not. And, per the game report, LAFC did not have six players rostered, and was playing three players up. Again, not sure if these LAFC '06 players have dropped or are typically rostered.

Predict: TFA 4 vs. LA Premier 1. Actuals: TFA 5 vs. LA Premier 1

Predict: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 3. Actuals: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 7. Ouch. Will leave it to folks to read the thread above for details and commentary about this match. The LAG 06s are clearly on a downward trajectory, even accounting for playing 07s up, and, if what the LAG org did w/ the 05 player from the 2017-18 season is an indicator (LAG brought in 10 new 05 players from other academies for the 2018-19 season, and cut a corresponding number of kids from the 2017-18 05 squad), this doesn't bode well for the current 06 LAG families.

A quick note/two cents. While most academy parents should have an idea of what academy means, and how the academy teams make decisions about players, it's one thing to know this in the abstract, and another thing to experience it first hand with your 12 or 13 year old.

Progress in life is not a straight line and it's a very good, but very tough, lesson to learn. 99.9% of soccer cut/keep decisions - especially at the u12 thru u15 age - can be ridiculously subjective, regardless of what "expert" coaches say. Believe it or not, who is playing at u14 is a very poor indicator of who will be playing at u20 (only five of the 100+ kids called up to the u14 ynt national team five years ago made it to the current u20 squad that just won Concacaf, and three of those players were only initially ID'ed in the now defunct Futures Camp meant to ID and nurture late developers and kids born in the 2nd half of the year).

Remember, there are a fair number of other, probably better, options to keep playing at a high level, and even to keep playing at an academy level. And, also remember, school is way, way, way more important than soccer for 98% of the kids now playing u13 DA soccer.

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LAUFA 2. Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 0 vs. LAUFA 4

San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 1. Actuals: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 0
Predict: OC Surf 2 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 3
Predict: Chula Vista 2 vs. Murrieta 4. Actuals: Chula Vista 1 vs. Murrieta 3
 
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3leches said:
The 05’s struggled last year and the 06’s are struggling this year. The common denominator is MC.
Not all professional players make good coaches. Hat off to pats or a job well done they dominated the game from the blow of the whistle.
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We played against 05 LAG last season and they were strong.
 
Kante said:
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend. home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
Predict: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 6. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 3. Per game report, looks like it was close until about the 65th minute. One LAFC player went for a brace and likely was a tough match-up for RSC.

Also, per the game report, RSC did not have five players rostered. Not sure if these players have dropped or not. And, per the game report, LAFC did not have six players rostered, and was playing three players up. Again, not sure if these LAFC '06 players have dropped or are typically rostered.

Predict: TFA 4 vs. LA Premier 1. Actuals: Does anyone have the score for this match?
Predict: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 3. Actuals: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 7. Ouch. Will leave it to folks to read the thread above for details and commentary about this match. The LAG 06s are clearly on a downward trajectory, even accounting for playing 07s up, and, if what the LAG org did w/ the 05 player from the 2017-18 season is an indicator (LAG brought in 10 new 05 players from other academies for the 2018-19 season, and cut a corresponding number of kids from the 2017-18 05 squad), this doesn't bode well for the current 06 LAG families.

A quick note/two cents. While most academy parents should have an idea of what academy means, and how the academy teams make decisions about players, it's one thing to know this in the abstract, and another thing to experience it first hand with your 12 or 13 year old.

Progress in life is not a straight line and it's a very good, but very tough, lesson to learn. 99.9% of soccer cut/keep decisions - especially at the u12 thru u15 age - can be ridiculously subjective, regardless of what "expert" coaches say. Believe it or not, who is playing at u14 is a very poor indicator of who will be playing at u20 (only five of the 100+ kids called up to the u14 ynt national team five years ago made it to the current u20 squad that just won Concacaf, and three of those players were only initially ID'ed in the now defunct Futures Camp meant to ID and nurture late developers and kids born in the 2nd half of the year).

Remember, there are a fair number of other, probably better, options to keep playing at a high level, and even to keep playing at an academy level. And, also remember, school is way, way, way more important than soccer for 98% of the kids now playing u13 DA soccer.

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LAUFA 2. Actuals: Does anyone have the score for this match?

San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 1. Actuals: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 0
Predict: OC Surf 2 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 3
Predict: Chula Vista 2 vs. Murrieta 4. Actuals: Chula Vista 1 vs. Murrieta 3
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TFADA IG posted they won 5-1
 
Carl said:
Food for thought-Everyone is giving props to LAG for playing up 07's, could it be they have already written off the 06 team this season. Not at all saying some of those kids are not talented but they have struggled all season if it was true development wouldn't the 06's be getting a chance up at 05's and so on. Other than when the 05 players were suspended from the incident at YNT Camp the 06's are not being pulled up could it be because this year the 05's are successful after struggling last year and they like the wins (yep I said it - clubs, directors, coaches, parents players enjoy winning and the benefits that come with it). Pats don't play up there top 06's when there is a tough game.[/QUOTE

I see the same thing whenever I go to a LAFC game. But they play their 06’s a lot with their 05’s and their 05’s sit out. I never see them play the 05’s up unless a 04 is with the National team. I wonder about development myself
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Kante said:
here's predicts vs actuals for this last weekend. home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
Predict: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 6. Actuals: Real So Cal 0 vs LAFC 3. Per game report, looks like it was close until about the 65th minute. One LAFC player went for a brace and likely was a tough match-up for RSC.

Also, per the game report, RSC did not have five players rostered. Not sure if these players have dropped or not. And, per the game report, LAFC did not have six players rostered, and was playing three players up. Again, not sure if these LAFC '06 players have dropped or are typically rostered.

Predict: TFA 4 vs. LA Premier 1. Actuals: TFA 5 vs. LA Premier 1

Predict: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 3. Actuals: LA Galaxy 1 vs. Pateadores 7. Ouch. Will leave it to folks to read the thread above for details and commentary about this match. The LAG 06s are clearly on a downward trajectory, even accounting for playing 07s up, and, if what the LAG org did w/ the 05 player from the 2017-18 season is an indicator (LAG brought in 10 new 05 players from other academies for the 2018-19 season, and cut a corresponding number of kids from the 2017-18 05 squad), this doesn't bode well for the current 06 LAG families.

A quick note/two cents. While most academy parents should have an idea of what academy means, and how the academy teams make decisions about players, it's one thing to know this in the abstract, and another thing to experience it first hand with your 12 or 13 year old.

Progress in life is not a straight line and it's a very good, but very tough, lesson to learn. 99.9% of soccer cut/keep decisions - especially at the u12 thru u15 age - can be ridiculously subjective, regardless of what "expert" coaches say. Believe it or not, who is playing at u14 is a very poor indicator of who will be playing at u20 (only five of the 100+ kids called up to the u14 ynt national team five years ago made it to the current u20 squad that just won Concacaf, and three of those players were only initially ID'ed in the now defunct Futures Camp meant to ID and nurture late developers and kids born in the 2nd half of the year).

Remember, there are a fair number of other, probably better, options to keep playing at a high level, and even to keep playing at an academy level. And, also remember, school is way, way, way more important than soccer for 98% of the kids now playing u13 DA soccer.

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs. LAUFA 2. Actuals: Does anyone have the score for this match?

San Diego
Predict: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 1. Actuals: LAGSD 2 vs. Albion 0
Predict: OC Surf 2 vs. Arsenal 2. Actuals: OC Surf 1 vs. Arsenal 3
Predict: Chula Vista 2 vs. Murrieta 4. Actuals: Chula Vista 1 vs. Murrieta 3
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SB 0 - LAUFA 4
 
Here's predicts for this weekend (3/9 & 3/10). Home team is listed first. Should be good soccer weather this weekend.

Los Angeles:
Real SoCal 0 vs Pats 3
LAFC 4 vs LAUFA 0
TFA 6 vs . LAG 2
Legends 2 vs Santa Barbara SC 2
FC Golden State 2 vs. LA Premier 2

San Diego:
Murrieta 2 vs. SDSC 2
OC Surf 1 vs. SD Surf 3
LAGSD 3 vs. Chula Vista 1
Nomads 1 vs. Arsenal 4
Strikers 3 vs. Albion 0



 
TFA vs LAG , 2-2
TFA lost their top goal scorer due to an injury in the 1st half, I believe he broke his collar bone. They played one man down for the remainder of the first half. That changed to momentum of the game for TFA. Both teams didn't play there respective games not much possession soccer lots of long balls, balls in the air not the best soccer from both teams.
 
Here's predicts vs actuals for this weekend (3/9 & 3/10). Home team is listed first.

Los Angeles:
Predict: LAFC 4 vs LAUFA 0. Actuals: LAFC 1 vs LAUFA 0. This one is interesting. LAFC had two '07s rostered (not unusual) and the game report said they scored early. Any one else have more color/commentary on this one?

Predict: TFA 6 vs . LAG 2. Actuals: TFA 2 vs. LAG 2. Per forum reports, thanks tres leches and SBFdad, this one sounds like it was little chippy/emotional with one injury (maybe broken collar bone to a leading scorer for TFA) and then not high quality play after. The later u14 game had a lot of drama and maybe some of that started w/ the u13 match. Any first person accounts/thoughts on this?

Predict: Legends 2 vs Santa Barbara SC 2. Actuals: Legends 2 vs. Santa Barbara SC 1. Per game report, sounds like a close game. Legends scored at the 20th minute, Santa Barbara tied it up late but then Legends scored one more for the win.

Predict: FC Golden State 2 vs. LA Premier 2. Actuals: FCG 3 vs LA Premier 0. Per game report, FCG got all three in the first half. interesting match-up since LA Premier won the last match 6-1 playing at LA Premier. FCG is a much better defensive team playing at home, and it showed this weekend.

San Diego:
OC Surf 1 vs. SD Surf 3 - Does anyone have the results for this match?
LAGSD 3 vs. Chula Vista 1 - Does anyone have the results for this match?

Predict: Nomads 1 vs. Arsenal 4. Actuals: Nomads 2 vs Arsenal 3. Per game report, sounds like interesting match. Nomads went up 2-0 in the first half with a player - maybe taking advantage of a matchup - scoring a brace, but Arsenal came back in the second half, scoring their three goals in a ten minute period. Any commentary?

Predict: Strikers 3 vs. Albion 0. Actuals: Strikers 5 vs Albion 3 Per game report, looks like a fun match to watch. Albion scored first early with Strikers tying it up minutes later. Albion went ahead again at the 27th minute, but Strikers again tied it up minutes later, and Albion had the last word in the first half with a goal right before halftime so 3-2 Albion at the half. Striker then shutout Albion in the second half while scoring three more for the win. Two Strikers had a brace.
 
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here's predicts for this weekend (3/16 & 3/17). home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
LA Premier 3 vs Legends 2
LAUFA 1 vs FCG 2
Pats 4 vs Santa Barbara SC 1
LA Galaxy 4 vs. Real SoCal 1.
The recent tie last weekend against TFA notwithstanding, LA Galaxy u13 has been on sustained decline since the 1-6 loss to TFA after the showcase.

Not sure what's going but they've been getting worse on both sides of the ball. Some of it is due to being willing to play some 07s playing up but the decline is bigger than just that.

So, it will be interesting to see which LAG team shows up against Real SoCal, the LAG team that lost 1-7 to the Pats at the beginning of March, or the LAG team that tied TFA 2-2 last weekend.

TFA 0 vs LAFC 3 *game to watch*
TopDrawer ranks TFA as the #1 u13 team in the country and LAFC at #3. here's the keys to the game.

1) TFA plays surprisingly poorly (relatively speaking) at home - especially on D - and has been getting worse over time while LAFC only has a small drop-off playing away. This looks like one of the biggest factors in this weekend's match

2) Reportedly, TFA's top scorer - presumably FJ - was injured in this last weekend's match against LA Galaxy. Wasn't at the match so don't know for sure but if he isn't ready to go against LAFC that will be tough. Last time these teams met, TFA won 3-2 with FJ scoring a brace. Having said that, TFA has a number of options who can score goals.

3) LAFC clearly has the goal of being the #1 team in the country at all age groups. This is their weekend to show what they got.

The algo had the match at 1-2 LAFC, but am a calling it 0-3 LAFC due to #1 thru #3 above.

Legends 2 vs. LA Galaxy 4 see note above about LAG

San Diego
SD Surf 2 vs Strikers 0 *game to watch*
TopDrawer ranks the Strikers at #6 in the country, and doesn't rank the SD Surf in the top 25, which is odd. So, SD Surf will have something to prove this weekend.

The two teams match up well, and the last time these teams played it was 1-0 SD Surf. The Strikers don't play as well away as they do at home and the SD Surf has only allowed one goal in their last seven games. The algo says 2-1 SD Surf but am calling it at 2-0 SD Surf.

OC Surf 1 vs LAGSD 2
SDSC 4 vs. Nomads 1
Arsenal 2 vs. Albion 1
 
Kante said:
here's predicts for this weekend (3/16 & 3/17). home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
LA Premier 3 vs Legends 2
LAUFA 1 vs FCG 2
Pats 4 vs Santa Barbara SC 1
LA Galaxy 4 vs. Real SoCal 1.
The recent tie last weekend against TFA notwithstanding, LA Galaxy u13 has been on sustained decline since the 1-6 loss to TFA after the showcase.

Not sure what's going but they've been getting worse on both sides of the ball. Some of it is due to being willing to play some 07s playing up but the decline is bigger than just that.

So, it will be interesting to see which LAG team shows up against Real SoCal, the LAG team that lost 1-7 to the Pats at the beginning of March, or the LAG team that tied TFA 2-2 last weekend.

TFA 0 vs LAFC 3 *game to watch*
TopDrawer ranks TFA as the #1 u13 team in the country and LAFC at #3. here's the keys to the game.

1) TFA plays surprisingly poorly (relatively speaking) at home - especially on D - and has been getting worse over time while LAFC only has a small drop-off playing away. This looks like one of the biggest factors in this weekend's match

2) Reportedly, TFA's top scorer - presumably FJ - was injured in this last weekend's match against LA Galaxy. Wasn't at the match so don't know for sure but if he isn't ready to go against LAFC that will be tough. Last time these teams met, TFA won 3-2 with FJ scoring a brace. Having said that, TFA has a number of options who can score goals.

3) LAFC clearly has the goal of being the #1 team in the country at all age groups. This is their weekend to show what they got.

The algo had the match at 1-2 LAFC, but am a calling it 0-3 LAFC due to #1 thru #3 above.

Legends 2 vs. LA Galaxy 4 see note above about LAG

San Diego
SD Surf 2 vs Strikers 0 *game to watch*
TopDrawer ranks the Strikers at #6 in the country, and doesn't rank the SD Surf in the top 25, which is odd. So, SD Surf will have something to prove this weekend.

The two teams match up well, and the last time these teams played it was 1-0 SD Surf. The Strikers don't play as well away as they do at home and the SD Surf has only allowed one goal in their last seven games. The algo says 2-1 SD Surf but am calling it at 2-0 SD Surf.

OC Surf 1 vs LAGSD 2
SDSC 4 vs. Nomads 1
Arsenal 2 vs. Albion 1
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San Diego Surf beat Irvine Strikers 2-0. Game was controlled by Surf. Strikers parents were out of control after the first goal went in. Two Striker’s parents were booted from the field for dropping numerous F Bombs at the refs, Surf parents and children. Class-less act...... sad.
 
here's predicts vs actuals. Home team is listed first. FYI. am consistently trying to incorporate home/away effect (when there's time) in the predicts and it seems like it's tightening up the accuracy of the predicts.

Los Angeles
Predict: Pats 4 vs Santa Barbara SC 1. Actuals: Pats 1 vs Santa Barbara SC 0. Pats were missing two players who contribute offensively. Santa Barbara also had a couple of kids out. Surprised that this was relatively competitive with the game report saying that the Pats scored their one at the 54th minute. Santa Barbara may be getting better defensively but the Pats game may also have been an outlier.

Predict: LA Galaxy 4 vs. Real SoCal 1. Actuals: LA Galaxy 2 vs. Real SoCal 2.

Predict: TFA 0 vs LAFC 3. Actuals: TFA 0 vs LAFC 5. This was a game to watch this weekend. TFA's DBA was the player out for this match, presumably from last week's injury vs LAG. He's typically good for more than 1.5 goals per game. TFA kept it close in the first half with the score 0-1 LAFC at end of half, but it looks like LAFC took advantage of what may have been a match-up advantage with four goals in the 2nd half including a brace by AO.

Of note, TFA's coach - WD (about whom there was some alleged controversy following the TFA-LAG dust-up for both u13 and, particularly u14, ) - was not listed by the game report as being present at either the u13 or u14 matches.

There's a new u13 sheriff in town with LAFC likely to rise to the #1 spot. Looking forward to the next LAFC vs TFA match on April 28th in, uh, Salem, Oregon(?).

Predict: Legends 2 vs. LA Galaxy 4. Actuals: Legends 2 vs. LA Galaxy 3.

San Diego
Predict: SD Surf 2 vs Strikers 0. Actuals: SD Surf 2 vs Strikers 0. This one was a match to watch this weekend.

here's commentary from SmashEm-G (thank you!):

"San Diego Surf beat Irvine Strikers 2-0. Game was controlled by Surf. Strikers parents were out of control after the first goal went in. Two Striker’s parents were booted from the field for dropping numerous F Bombs at the refs, Surf parents and children. Class-less act...... sad."

Having said that, the game report states that both goals were PK's and SD Surf was playing at home. Have no idea how the game went - and more comments are very welcome - but will say - IMHO - that the refs this year have on occasion provided a solid home field advantage at the u13 and u14 levels. This may not have had anything at all to do w/ the SD Surf vs Strikers outcome though.

TopDrawer had ranked the Strikers at #9 in the country in the March rankings (down from #6 in Feb), and still doesn't rank the SD Surf in the top 25, which is odd. presumably SD Surf - if they keep playing the same - will move up in April.

Predict: SDSC 4 vs. Nomads 1. Actuals: SDSC 4 vs. Nomads 1. Any additional commentary on this one? Was surprised by SDSC's lack of offense. Per game report, SDSC scored about midway thru the 1st half, and the it looks like a defensive battle until the Nomads tied it up in the last five minutes.

Predict: Arsenal 2 vs. Albion 1. Does anyone have results for this one?
 
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Kante said:
here's predicts vs actuals. Home team is listed first. FYI. am consistently trying to incorporate home/away effect (when there's time) in the predicts and it seems like it's tightening up the accuracy of the predicts.

Los Angeles

Predict: TFA 0 vs LAFC 3. Actuals: TFA 0 vs LAFC 5. This was a game to watch this weekend. TFA's DBA was the player out for this match, presumably from last week's injury vs LAG. He's typically good for more than 1.5 goals per game. TFA kept it close in the first half with the score 0-1 LAFC at end of half, but it looks like LAFC took advantage of what may have been a match-up advantage with four goals in the 2nd half including a brace by AO.

Of note, TFA's coach - WD (about whom there was some alleged controversy following the TFA-LAG dust-up for both u13 and, particularly u14, ) - was not listed by the game report as being present at either the u13 or u14 matches.

There's a new u13 sheriff in town with LAFC likely to rise to the #1 spot. Looking forward to the next LAFC vs TFA match on April 28th in, uh, Salem, Oregon(?).
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Interesting note on the TFA-LAFC game: WD did not coach TFA this game as the game report correctly noted. The UCLA Men's Head Coach (currently on leave due to some off the field issues in the mainstream news) coached TFA for this game. I think he also coached the TFA 05's. I also understand a number of TFA 06's played up due to missing players from prior week's incident.
 
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