2005 DA Standings

DosEquisGuy said:
typo on Kante's post - LAFC nil - surf nil
actually makes the argument for even more parity in the league
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thanks for the catch. correction made.

not sure though about the LAFC/SD Surf result = more evidence of parity (although plenty evidence for parity from the other matches).

any thoughts from folks who were at the LAFC/SD Surf match? sub patterns, for example, were odd imo.

if folks have any commentary/insights, please post or dm.
 
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Ozzie said:
Crossfire vs. RSC - RSC scored on a throw-in with less then 10 seconds left in stoppage - there was some controversy, as XFire players were claiming a handball - all in all a relativily even match - XFire was missing one of their top midfielders due to illness (the other 04), and their top striker was late for the match and did not enter the game until mid second half.. Xfire was the better team, prob 1-1.5 goals better.
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awesome. thanks! any comments on how RSC got their first goal?
 
enrique said:
Not taken Soccer is a full year sport at Mater Dei not just winter my friend ,they start with scrimmages beginning of next month oct 4 to exact
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two Strikers DA players are listed on the Mater Dei Varsity 2019-20 roster - FR and KS. presumably there's an understanding between the Strikers and MD that wasn't there w/ LAG (most of the rest of the MD roster is either pateadores or strikers). DA does provide an exception to allow DA players to play private school high school soccer where the student/player is on a sports scholarship to the school. here's link to the roster - https://www.materdeiathletics.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=452865&type=d&pREC_ID=1049778
 
Kante said:
predict: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 2. Actuals: Real Salt Lake 1 vs Seattle Sounders 1
note: decent result for RSL. RSL is about about 50% brand new w/ some strong new players but still seems like they should be doing better - and playing more dynamically - than they have been. maybe an unrealistic expectation but RSL still has some latent offensive firepower than hasn't really manifested yet. Sounders are strong, maybe a bit better than LAG.
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RSL scored first on a header off a corner kick, Sounders countered with a goal off a sequence of 6-7 passes. Sounders played down a man for about half of the second period due to an injury. RSL defended well at the last line of defense to prevent more goals.
 
Husky13 said:
RSL scored first on a header off a corner kick, Sounders countered with a goal off a sequence of 6-7 passes. Sounders played down a man for about half of the second period due to an injury. RSL defended well at the last line of defense to prevent more goals.
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thx for this. saw the 2nd half, and here's two cents on that half.

would say you're being generous to RSL, particularly since they were a man up for a period of time.

Sounders had the ball in RSL's half most of the time - despite being a man down for some of the time - but couldn't quite get that quality opportunity needed to put one more in. Seemed like more patience by the Sounders was needed to work the ball back into the middle and get better quality/higher likelihood chances.

Thought the RSL backline/goalie were decent, bent but didn't break, and did a good job of clogging the middle/pushing the Sounders to the outside for lower % oppty's.

Sounders size (and resulting speed due to length of stride), and physical play was a problem for RSL, and Sounders consistently closed out quickly to keep RSL from putting together passes.

looked like RSL needs faster ball movement/better first touch/better movement off the ball if they're going to expect to win matches against teams like the Sounders.

(u15 is the last age group where there's a really significant gap in physical size due to age/early development, and teams like the Sounders can make the field seem really small. best way to compensate is to move the ball quickly and look to unbalance (to be fair, not a rocket science type of insight this, and easier said than done). if this doesn't happen, the physically larger team will overwhelm/dominate the field of play.)

There were a couple of oppty's RSL had to counter but they were never able to get adequate numbers because most RSL players had dropped back to defend.

The couple of times that RSL opened play up a bit were when they started to get the ball to their right wing. he looks left footed but only inverted once and that directly led to one of RSL's only shots on target. RSL probably needs to consciously do more on that side since the ball didn't seem like it got to the right wing that much.

Overall, Sounders looked tough and played well, and their size and speed - combined with solid play - will get them by most u15 teams but will be interesting to see how they do against a team like LAFC if LAFC is firing on all cylinders. Not sure Sounders will see much West Coast competition outside of LAFC though.

(and coffee finished...)
 
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here's predicts for this weekend (9/28/19). home team is listed first.

The algo is starting to get dialed in w/ the two big outliers from last week - xfire vs rsc and LAFC vs SD Surf - having reasonable explanations. xfire was missing two key players, and SD Surf bunkered. the algo should have better accuracy this week.

SoCal Games
De Anza 2 vs Pateadores 1
note: both teams lost recently 0-5 to LAFC, but De Anza is a top third of the table team for norcal while Pats are likely a mid or bottom third of the table for socal. am rooting for the Pats to show represent for socal and this match will be a good meter of having the two regions match up.

San Jose Quakes 1 vs San Diego Surf 1
note: results here depend heavily on SD Surf tactics. per multiple reports, SD Surf bunkered against LAFC and likely did not get a shot off. If they do so again (and one might point out that, last year or the year before when SD Surf had a stronger team, teams rarely bunkered against SD Surf), the algo will catch up and start accounting for the tactic in another couple of games, but it will make accurate predicts difficult in the near term. if SD Surf does not bunker, SJ likely wins 3-1 with the the one SD Surf goal being scored on a counter by TW.

Nomads 3 vs Arsenal 1

Albion 3 vs TFA 4

LAGSD 2 vs LAUFA 1

Sacramento Republic 1 vs LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
note: so far this season, LAG has been a riddle wrapped in an enigma. per the game reports, it looks like they're still tinkering with their game day roster and starting xi. also, new coaches and new academy regime.

By most accounts, the LAG players individually are greater quality than the sum of what's showing up for team results, but maybe not. The algo has this match as a tie but LAG should win. LAFC beat Sacramento 6-1 so that's the measuring stick. Let's see what you got LAG.

FC Golden State 1 vs LAFC 3

De Anza 1 vs LA Galaxy 2
note: interesting output here. anecdotal reports have De Anza as a stronger team than Sacramento but we'll see.

Real SoCal 1 vs Strikers 1 - match to watch
note: algo has a tie but with the edge to RSC, but the Strikers are a prideful team, and having to be satisfied with tie because RSC grabbed a late goal will likely not sit well. having said that, RSC has bigger ambitions this year, has two decent results in DA cup play so far and likely will also be up for the match. Should be fun to watch.

Sacramento Republic 2 vs Pateadores 1

Non-SoCal Games (for reference)
Vancouver Whitecaps 3 vs Real Salt Lake 8
Ballistic 1 vs SVSA 2
Portland Timbers 1 vs Real Colorado 2
Seattle Sounders 3 vs Colorado Rapids 1
Portland Timbers 1 vs Colorado Rapids 3
Seattle Sounders 4 vs Real Colorado 1



 
LAG 2-2 vs SAC Republic
LAG Played last20- 25 mins with 10 players
Bad referees
Group also dealing with Injuries

We’ll see tomorrow vs De Anza
How they regroup
 
Kante said:
here's predicts for this weekend (9/28/19). home team is listed first.

The algo is starting to get dialed in w/ the two big outliers from last week - xfire vs rsc and LAFC vs SD Surf - having reasonable explanations. xfire was missing two key players, and SD Surf bunkered. the algo should have better accuracy this week.

SoCal Games
De Anza 2 vs Pateadores 1
note: both teams lost recently 0-5 to LAFC, but De Anza is a top third of the table team for norcal while Pats are likely a mid or bottom third of the table for socal. am rooting for the Pats to show represent for socal and this match will be a good meter of having the two regions match up.

San Jose Quakes 1 vs San Diego Surf 1
note: results here depend heavily on SD Surf tactics. per multiple reports, SD Surf bunkered against LAFC and likely did not get a shot off. If they do so again (and one might point out that, last year or the year before when SD Surf had a stronger team, teams rarely bunkered against SD Surf), the algo will catch up and start accounting for the tactic in another couple of games, but it will make accurate predicts difficult in the near term. if SD Surf does not bunker, SJ likely wins 3-1 with the the one SD Surf goal being scored on a counter by TW.

Nomads 3 vs Arsenal 1

Albion 3 vs TFA 4

LAGSD 2 vs LAUFA 1

Sacramento Republic 1 vs LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
note: so far this season, LAG has been a riddle wrapped in an enigma. per the game reports, it looks like they're still tinkering with their game day roster and starting xi. also, new coaches and new academy regime.

By most accounts, the LAG players individually are greater quality than the sum of what's showing up for team results, but maybe not. The algo has this match as a tie but LAG should win. LAFC beat Sacramento 6-1 so that's the measuring stick. Let's see what you got LAG.

FC Golden State 1 vs LAFC 3

De Anza 1 vs LA Galaxy 2
note: interesting output here. anecdotal reports have De Anza as a stronger team than Sacramento but we'll see.

Real SoCal 1 vs Strikers 1 - match to watch
note: algo has a tie but with the edge to RSC, but the Strikers are a prideful team, and having to be satisfied with tie because RSC grabbed a late goal will likely not sit well. having said that, RSC has bigger ambitions this year, has two decent results in DA cup play so far and likely will also be up for the match. Should be fun to watch.

Sacramento Republic 2 vs Pateadores 1

Non-SoCal Games (for reference)
Vancouver Whitecaps 3 vs Real Salt Lake 8
Ballistic 1 vs SVSA 2
Portland Timbers 1 vs Real Colorado 2
Seattle Sounders 3 vs Colorado Rapids 1
Portland Timbers 1 vs Colorado Rapids 3
Seattle Sounders 4 vs Real Colorado 1
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Not typically on this sites full of fantasy and none sense statements which never be close to improve the American soccer.
Why is the need to kiss mls academies asses? Can you judge equally all teams?
If LAFC or LAG tied or lose, you guys are trying to justify them under many reasons (using 06s, using the bench, new directors, etc, etc, etc...) all this is bull shit.
Are MLS academies developing? NO, there are not even close to develop a kid. They are scouters, that is it.

Is it acceptable that:
LAFC tied vs the devastated Surf?
LAFC tied vs FCGS?
LAG tied vs TFA?
LAG tied vs Sacramento?
Real Salt Lake and Barca get beat by other smaller teams?
NO IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Said teams cannot lose a game vs 05 teams, they should be kicking ass a year older academies.

Being realistic, these teams can perform better than the rest without even a coach, (you can literally assign a 14 yers old player as a couch and have excellent results) all of them have 90% of the best players in town. Let me correct my self. Some of them like Barca and RSL they don’t even happy with the best talent in town, they bring players form other states, is that developing? That is telling everyone “I can’t develop, help me, bring me the best kids to cover my stupidity”

Let’s support the local soccer and give credit to the real developers.
Hopefully one day MLS will learn from them. You not only need $ to take care kids, you need heart, commitment and trust in your players.
Imagine what could be achieved if fcgs, tfa, or laufa get the financial resources as the mls teams have...
I hope your comments and opinions get fair and straight.
 
Emilio Castro said:
Not typically on this sites full of fantasy and none sense statements which never be close to improve the American soccer.
Why is the need to kiss mls academies asses? Can you judge equally all teams?
If LAFC or LAG tied or lose, you guys are trying to justify them under many reasons (using 06s, using the bench, new directors, etc, etc, etc...) all this is bull shit.
Are MLS academies developing? NO, there are not even close to develop a kid. They are scouters, that is it.

Is it acceptable that:
LAFC tied vs the devastated Surf?
LAFC tied vs FCGS?
LAG tied vs TFA?
LAG tied vs Sacramento?
Real Salt Lake and Barca get beat by other smaller teams?
NO IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Said teams cannot lose a game vs 05 teams, they should be kicking ass a year older academies.

Being realistic, these teams can perform better than the rest without even a coach, (you can literally assign a 14 yers old player as a couch and have excellent results) all of them have 90% of the best players in town. Let me correct my self. Some of them like Barca and RSL they don’t even happy with the best talent in town, they bring players form other states, is that developing? That is telling everyone “I can’t develop, help me, bring me the best kids to cover my stupidity”

Let’s support the local soccer and give credit to the real developers.
Hopefully one day MLS will learn from them. You not only need $ to take care kids, you need heart, commitment and trust in your players.
Imagine what could be achieved if fcgs, tfa, or laufa get the financial resources as the mls teams have...
I hope your comments and opinions get fair and straight.
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I agree and I’ve been saying this for a long time. Sure an MLS club may make a superstar even better after they recruited him from somewhere else by giving him a ton of minutes... but by leaving so many many other boys on the bench who definitely have potential isn’t helping. Especially in the 13 to 15 age groups where the growth rates are so dramatically different. By leaving a boy with the potential to be great out of games, this isn’t development. Let’s call it what it is... the word academy means school, and if the MLS academies aren’t including everyone in their curriculum just because of weights and heights then it’s truly not a school.. what it becomes then is a professional team. Ok I’m fine with that and I know it’s also fully funded. But what I’m saying is then don’t recruit the smaller gifted players only to have them not play. That’s just hurting these boys development and wasting everyone’s time. I know people are gonna argue with me about this but I do agree that MLS clubs do NOT develop. They train and practice doing exactly what other non-MLS clubs do... there is nothing special about MLS. Only their money... that’s it. If MLS teams don’t perform well, coaches and players get fired and traded. If MLS academies don’t do well, coaches and players get fired and cut. It’s a business model that doesn’t include the definition of development and it’s sad. I would really like to see USMNT do something great. But probably not gonna happen.
 
here's predicts vs actuals for this weekend (9/28/19). home team is listed first.

SoCal Games
predict: De Anza 2 vs Pateadores 1 Actuals: De Anza 1 vs Pateadores 0

predict: San Jose Quakes 1 vs San Diego Surf 1 Actuals: San Jose Quakes 4 vs San Diego Surf 0
note: looks like SD Surf played this one wide open with close to the expected result. SD Surf is likely going to have tough time this year. hopefully families are being extra patient/have reasonable expectations w/ the players.

predict: Nomads 3 vs Arsenal 1 Actuals: Nomads 1 vs Arsenal 1
note: Arsenal showing a bit stronger than expected, maybe something to watch here.

predict: Albion 3 vs TFA 4 Actuals: Albion 4 vs TFA 3 (thx justneedaname!)

predict:LAGSD 2 vs LAUFA 1 Actuals: LAGSD 0 vs LAUFA 1
note: per the game report, LAUFA scored early and went down to 10 for most of the 2nd half after a red on their goalie but still pulled the result out against a decent LAGSD team.

predict: Sacramento Republic 1 vs LA Galaxy 1 Actuals: Sacramento Republic 2 vs LA Galaxy 2
note: per the game report, looks like LAG played this one to win but went down to 10 after a LAG player received his second yellow. per posts, some unhappiness on the quality of refs (have noticed that the DA arbitro quality has gone down in the last two years) but this is also the second time in four games that LAG has gone down to 10 players during a match due to cards.

of note, LAG have had some unfortunate injuries including JO - LAG's leading scorer from last year who average almost a goal per game - , AK and JM.

predict: FC Golden State 1 vs LAFC 3 Actuals: FC Golden State 1 vs LAFC 1
note: Ok, we see you FCG.

per the game report, LAFC scored in the first half, and FCG scored in the 2nd. FCG also picked up a couple of yellow cards in the 2nd half but nothing horrible. looking at the sub patterns, the only notable sub on the LAFC is that DC subbed out at the end of the first half. OL got the goal for FCG so am thinking set piece but that's completely speculation. Looks like a really good match with FCG putting SoCal on notice early in the season that they're coming to be competitive this season (FCG has had mostly tight results against mostly tough opposition so far in 2019-20)

Any addt'l commentary/insight either via post ot dm?

predict: De Anza 1 vs LA Galaxy 2 Actuals: De Anza 1 vs LA Galaxy 5
note: interesting result here. anecdotal reports had De Anza as the stronger team than Sacramento, but per game report, while it was tight early with LAG only up 1-0 at half, LAG dominated this match in the 2nd half with De Anza only getting one in very late in the game.

predict: Real SoCal 1 vs Strikers 1 Actuals: Real SoCal 1 vs Strikers 5 (thx Enrique!)
note: very different result than previous match. last match was 1-1 with Strikers scoring late in the first half and RSC scoring late in the second half to tie. per the game report, in the second match, Strikers had it 2-0 at ht, and then scored another in a five minute window in the 2nd half to put the Strikers up 5-0. RSC got one back later for the final 5-1 result. Significant changes from first match to 2nd match included Strikers head coach DE was not at 2nd match, and RSC subbed out their big six at ht in the 2nd match where he played 80 in the first match.

in a tough DA Cup group, this loss may have cost RSC some street cred re: tier advancement for the club for next season. (am not 100% clear still on how the DA cup works for u15 though...)

predict: Sacramento Republic 2 vs Pateadores 1 Actuals: Sacramento Republic 2 vs Pateadores 2
note: good on the Pats here. some tight results but overall solid showing up North. per the game report, Pats went up 2-0 in the first half, but Sacto came back to tie it 2-2 in the 2nd h. Sacto subbed in a couple of key players to likely push for the win but the Pats held on for the 2-2 tie and the point.

Non-SoCal Games (for reference)
predict: Vancouver Whitecaps 3 vs Real Salt Lake 8 Actuals: Vancouver Whitecaps 1 vs Real Salt Lake 0
note: not sure what the algo was smoking on this one (because the predict was way too high...) but to be fair, limited data. RSL went down to 10 late in the match but still seems to be underperforming

predict: Ballistic 1 vs SVSA 2 Actuals: Ballistic 2 vs SVSA 0

predict: Portland Timbers 1 vs Real Colorado 2 Actuals: Portland Timbers 1 vs Real Colorado 1

predict: Seattle Sounders 3 vs Colorado Rapids 1 Actuals: Seattle Sounders 1 vs Colorado Rapids 1

predict: Portland Timbers 1 vs Colorado Rapids 3 Actuals: pending - does anyone have results here?

predict: Seattle Sounders 4 vs Real Colorado 1 Actuals: Seattle Sounders 7 vs Real Colorado 0
 
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