Fishme1
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I don’t know what the reason is. But take a look. All new faces. Haven’t seen a few players either. I heard another coach out the end of this month. Parents asking questions.
2003/2004 Boys. Standings, games of the week etc...
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soccerstud
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I dont see it mate....looks like same people to me at U16/17 team
From everything I’ve heard this age group is a disaster for the so cal teams. Albion’s coach fired due to drinking on the way home from Dallas cup. Surf coach never around, practices on and off and team always with u19 coach who isn’t even DA certified. Nomads kids quitting and coming back each week and it’s a mystery who will show up. Galaxy has a roster of a million and roster vastly different lineups each week. Probs apparently at LAFC.
My only observation is that there is ZERO oversight from DA. These programs are crap (and expensive crap) and with no one keeping an eye on them they are all run into the ground. The only metric DOC care about now is playoffs and truly only the MLS teams show well there. So it’s a shitshow everywhere else. Huge huge huge winter break. Let the non MLS DA kids play high school. They’ve been sitting around anyways since Florida.
My only observation is that there is ZERO oversight from DA. These programs are crap (and expensive crap) and with no one keeping an eye on them they are all run into the ground. The only metric DOC care about now is playoffs and truly only the MLS teams show well there. So it’s a shitshow everywhere else. Huge huge huge winter break. Let the non MLS DA kids play high school. They’ve been sitting around anyways since Florida.
Fishme1
GOLD
Big cat keeper coach Quit
Cristiano Scapolo Quit
Christine Hsieh Quit
Gerardo Cisneros Quit
Coach Jason Quit
2 more coaches quitting soon.
You happen not to notice ??
Jason is still there. And what 2 other coaches would you be referring to?
Also, Gerardo and Christine were not coaches, just administrators.
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jpeter
PREMIER
Not sure quit is the right term either; CR took a better paying job and a promotion pretty much.
In any case there is always going to be a certain turnover rate and moving pieces with youth coaches, promotions and those looking to be directors in there own right seem to be almost common in the da. Not every coach works out either so some just don't last past the initial term(s).
LAFC results for the u17 & U15's for the higher level events like the DA cup and Gen Addias haven't been great so far but with the changes things are trending in a better direction now IMO.
Ussda is more about the training, fewer better competitions vs sheer number or regular frequent league games. This works for some better than others, the well organized & financed groups tend to get more of the season by playing friendlies, traveling a bit to tournaments, and keeping players engaged regularly.
But yeah the no HS rules is not needed IMO, doesn't serve a purpose to help players.
Results for the U15s at GA Cup? They had 5 wins, 1 loss and gave up 1 goal in six games. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me.
jpeter
PREMIER
Came in 2nd didn't quality for the international group. For a top MLS club that's disappointing but not shabby at all.
Unfortunate that they put the two best teams at this age group, FC Dallas and LAFC in the same group. Only giving up 1 goal in 6 games is not disappointing IMO, but we can beg to differ.
jpeter
PREMIER
The objective to always play the next level is either met or not? In this case the not would be considered disappointing w/ opportunities lost, circumstances or not.
Kante
PREMIER
Here's predicts for this weekend (2/22). Home team is listed first. Got some good games coming up this weekend.
SoCal
Albion 0 - FC Golden State 2
Strikers 1 - LAFC 3
Pateadores 3 - Barca 4 - match to watch
LAGSD 1 - Real Salt Lake 3
FC Golden State 2 - Barca 2 - match to watch
Real SoCal 2 - LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
Nomads 1 - Real Salt Lake 1 - match to watch
SoCal Adjacent
SVSA 2 - Portland Timbers 4
Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
Ballistic 2 - Sacramento Republic 3 - match to watch
SVSA 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 3
SoCal
Albion 0 - FC Golden State 2
Strikers 1 - LAFC 3
Pateadores 3 - Barca 4 - match to watch
LAGSD 1 - Real Salt Lake 3
FC Golden State 2 - Barca 2 - match to watch
Real SoCal 2 - LA Galaxy 1 - match to watch
Nomads 1 - Real Salt Lake 1 - match to watch
SoCal Adjacent
SVSA 2 - Portland Timbers 4
Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
Ballistic 2 - Sacramento Republic 3 - match to watch
SVSA 1 - Seattle Sounders 2
Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 3
soccerstud
SILVER
Cienfuegos is gone? Sacha leaving...wow, I really need to start paying more attention. Que loco el mundo del Futbol!
Fishme1
GOLD
To what I hear Ortega is hard to work with. He brought 2 players from Mexico for the 03 division that are not even as good as the current players. Coaches say Ortega has the Mexican soccer is better mentality. He feels that the boys playing MLS here aren’t as good. So he won’t accept any tryouts.
Kante
PREMIER
Here's predicts vs actuals for this weekend (2/22). Home team is listed first. Got some good games coming up this weekend.
SoCal
predict: Albion 0 - FC Golden State 2 actuals: Albion 1 - FC Golden State 0
note: surprised by this one. does anyone have more insight/details on this match? either here or via dm?
predict: Strikers 1 - LAFC 3 actuals: Strikers 1 - LAFC 3
predict: Pateadores 3 - Barca 4 actuals: Pateadores 1 - Barca 2
predict: LAGSD 1 - Real Salt Lake 3 actuals: LAGSD 0 - Real Salt Lake 2
predict: FC Golden State 2 - Barca 2 actuals: FC Golden State 6 - Barca 4
predict: Real SoCal 2 - LA Galaxy 1 actuals: pending - does anyone have this score?
predict: Nomads 1 - Real Salt Lake 1 actuals: Nomads 0 - Real Salt Lake 2
SoCal Adjacent
predict: SVSA 2 - Portland Timbers 4 actuals: SVSA 1 - Portland Timbers 2
predict: Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 2 actuals: Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 0
note: surprised by this one. does anyone have more insight/details on this match? either here or via dm? this Breakers u17 team just took down two MLS teams this weekend with better than expected defense. nice work.
predict: Ballistic 2 - Sacramento Republic 3 actuals: Ballistic 1 - Sacramento Republic 3
predict: SVSA 1 - Seattle Sounders 2 actuals: SVSA 0 - Seattle Sounders 2
predict: Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 3 actuals: Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 2
SoCal
predict: Albion 0 - FC Golden State 2 actuals: Albion 1 - FC Golden State 0
note: surprised by this one. does anyone have more insight/details on this match? either here or via dm?
predict: Strikers 1 - LAFC 3 actuals: Strikers 1 - LAFC 3
predict: Pateadores 3 - Barca 4 actuals: Pateadores 1 - Barca 2
predict: LAGSD 1 - Real Salt Lake 3 actuals: LAGSD 0 - Real Salt Lake 2
predict: FC Golden State 2 - Barca 2 actuals: FC Golden State 6 - Barca 4
predict: Real SoCal 2 - LA Galaxy 1 actuals: pending - does anyone have this score?
predict: Nomads 1 - Real Salt Lake 1 actuals: Nomads 0 - Real Salt Lake 2
SoCal Adjacent
predict: SVSA 2 - Portland Timbers 4 actuals: SVSA 1 - Portland Timbers 2
predict: Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 2 actuals: Breakers 1 - Seattle Sounders 0
note: surprised by this one. does anyone have more insight/details on this match? either here or via dm? this Breakers u17 team just took down two MLS teams this weekend with better than expected defense. nice work.
predict: Ballistic 2 - Sacramento Republic 3 actuals: Ballistic 1 - Sacramento Republic 3
predict: SVSA 1 - Seattle Sounders 2 actuals: SVSA 0 - Seattle Sounders 2
predict: Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 3 actuals: Breakers 3 - Portland Timbers 2
1-0 RSC over Galaxy.
Kante
PREMIER
thx!
Kante
PREMIER
here's predicts va actuals for this last weekend (2/29). home team is listed first. had some decent games this weekend.
predict: Real Salt Lake 2 - LAFC 1 actuals: Real Salt Lake 2 - LAFC 3
note: per game report and anecdotal reports, this sounds like a solid match for LAFC with an early goal to make it 1-0 at ht, and then another goal about midway thru the 2nd half to go ahead 2-0.
CN for RSL made it 1-2 at the 80th minute but CT for LAFC brought the margin back up with goal at the 89th minute to make it 1-3. CN, however, got a double at the very end but itwasn't enough, and the final result was 3-2 LAFC.
Sounds like a good match and fun to watch overall, particularly the last 20 minutes.
one item though.
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Saw Saldana talking about the LAFC u17 win on twitter. cool, cool cool. but here's the exact quote:
For the record, LAFC has stacked their teams across all their age groups with January dob's. It's fact. At u12, u13,u14 and u15, LAFC is always the oldest team, usually by a large margin, to borrow a phrase, in age groups where age - even a few months difference - matters to a disproportionate degree. The loading up of January dob's is so consistent that one might even use the word "cynical" to describe the practice.
And the ripple impact has been that other SoCal teams, to be able to compete w/ LAFC at those age groups, have to do the same, which has effectively shrunk the opportunity for SoCal players who are either late developers or have late DOBs across the board
Now, have been open - when asked - that our player is a late DOB. He's managed to find success, and likely will be a much better player for it when everything evens out developmentally wise. So, if you want, discount my two cents, fine.
However, the overall focus on early DOBs across the US soccer environment is artificially shrinking the player pool by at least 50%.
And given that the single biggest advantage the US has, in competing against other countries, is its large population, and given that we are underperforming vs other countries, systematically giving half of our best advantage away thru cynical/lazy development practices is not smart.
Countries like France and England, driven by their pro clubs, are consciously creating specific development paths for late developers/late DOBs. And you can look at the dobs for their national teams over time to see that this is the case. And these guys seems like they're good at this soccer thing.
We were making some progress in the US for a couple of years, but, then, with no explanation, most of it stopped in the 2017-18 season.
Now, US Soccer did just sponsor a late developer tournament this last January but they used to also have a late developer team camp - the Futures Camp - https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...e-relative-age-effect-a-response-from-us.html -which hasn't been heard from for several years.
The irony here is that attendees from the last two Futures camps in 2013 and 2015 - where was the futures camp was their first call-up into the YNT system - have significantly outperformed players who were called up into the regular age group YNT camp those same years.
Futures Camp attendees include names like Mendez, Aronson, Berhalter (yes, GB's son), Gloster and Amaya that should ring some bells.
So, back to Saldana's comment.
To be clear, like a lot of what LAFC academy does, but loading up on early DOB players but then complaining about being at an age disadvantage - for the first time in three years - now that one of the LAFC teams is playing u16/u17 is more than a little hypocritical.
(And btw, the age-based developmental differences - although still significant - begin to even out by age 16-17 a players catch up in height and then later weight).
For the record, close to half of LAFC's current u15 roster was born in January, raising a legit question of "are they better or are they just older?"
Yes, some are better, but some may just be older. But hey, no excuses.
ok, sigh. rant done. sorry about that.. (channelling Twellman...)
predict: Strikers 1 - LA Galaxy 1 actuals: Strikers 2 - LA Galaxy 1
predict: Pateadores 3 - FC Golden State 3 actuals: Pateadores 1 - FC Golden State 2
predict: Real Salt Lake 2 - LAFC 1 actuals: Real Salt Lake 2 - LAFC 3
note: per game report and anecdotal reports, this sounds like a solid match for LAFC with an early goal to make it 1-0 at ht, and then another goal about midway thru the 2nd half to go ahead 2-0.
CN for RSL made it 1-2 at the 80th minute but CT for LAFC brought the margin back up with goal at the 89th minute to make it 1-3. CN, however, got a double at the very end but itwasn't enough, and the final result was 3-2 LAFC.
Sounds like a good match and fun to watch overall, particularly the last 20 minutes.
one item though.
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Saw Saldana talking about the LAFC u17 win on twitter. cool, cool cool. but here's the exact quote:
"I am very proud of this group; players & staff. I’ve given them the task of being the youngest team (by a large margin) in every game & always up for the challenge..never used as an excuse. Keep Thriving!"
For the record, LAFC has stacked their teams across all their age groups with January dob's. It's fact. At u12, u13,u14 and u15, LAFC is always the oldest team, usually by a large margin, to borrow a phrase, in age groups where age - even a few months difference - matters to a disproportionate degree. The loading up of January dob's is so consistent that one might even use the word "cynical" to describe the practice.
And the ripple impact has been that other SoCal teams, to be able to compete w/ LAFC at those age groups, have to do the same, which has effectively shrunk the opportunity for SoCal players who are either late developers or have late DOBs across the board
Now, have been open - when asked - that our player is a late DOB. He's managed to find success, and likely will be a much better player for it when everything evens out developmentally wise. So, if you want, discount my two cents, fine.
However, the overall focus on early DOBs across the US soccer environment is artificially shrinking the player pool by at least 50%.
And given that the single biggest advantage the US has, in competing against other countries, is its large population, and given that we are underperforming vs other countries, systematically giving half of our best advantage away thru cynical/lazy development practices is not smart.
Countries like France and England, driven by their pro clubs, are consciously creating specific development paths for late developers/late DOBs. And you can look at the dobs for their national teams over time to see that this is the case. And these guys seems like they're good at this soccer thing.
We were making some progress in the US for a couple of years, but, then, with no explanation, most of it stopped in the 2017-18 season.
Now, US Soccer did just sponsor a late developer tournament this last January but they used to also have a late developer team camp - the Futures Camp - https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...e-relative-age-effect-a-response-from-us.html -which hasn't been heard from for several years.
The irony here is that attendees from the last two Futures camps in 2013 and 2015 - where was the futures camp was their first call-up into the YNT system - have significantly outperformed players who were called up into the regular age group YNT camp those same years.
Futures Camp attendees include names like Mendez, Aronson, Berhalter (yes, GB's son), Gloster and Amaya that should ring some bells.
So, back to Saldana's comment.
To be clear, like a lot of what LAFC academy does, but loading up on early DOB players but then complaining about being at an age disadvantage - for the first time in three years - now that one of the LAFC teams is playing u16/u17 is more than a little hypocritical.
(And btw, the age-based developmental differences - although still significant - begin to even out by age 16-17 a players catch up in height and then later weight).
For the record, close to half of LAFC's current u15 roster was born in January, raising a legit question of "are they better or are they just older?"
Yes, some are better, but some may just be older. But hey, no excuses.
ok, sigh. rant done. sorry about that.. (channelling Twellman...)
predict: Strikers 1 - LA Galaxy 1 actuals: Strikers 2 - LA Galaxy 1
predict: Pateadores 3 - FC Golden State 3 actuals: Pateadores 1 - FC Golden State 2