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You're no idiot.
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Yes, yes I can Trump is a waste of government funding. It cost more to protect his family than any other presidential family, he is now on his 17th golf weekend and these investigations will cost millions . . . and his wages.
Bruddah IZ
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Fuck off fascist!
AE is American, body and soul, and represents our ideals with concise, sound, arguments
Bruddah IZ
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That depends on the plant.
In May, the company reported its metallurgical coal prices increased 53 percent over the year to $156.12 a ton in the first fiscal quarter of 2017. During the quarter, the company’s net income was $10 million, up 222 percent from the same period the year before.
Bruddah IZ
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Thermal coal, which is shipped to power plants and burned to produce electricity, sat at $43.23 a ton, the company reported.
Bruddah IZ
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Al Gore is such a pussy......ripe for the grabbin'
Wez
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"Half"? How bout 0.2%, idiot.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-coal-20160512-snap-story.html
..."the share of California's total megawatt hours of power generated by burning coal dropped from 1% in 2007 to just 0.2% in 2015."
0.77% of installed capacity. Actual share of generated power depends on the daily mix.
http://www.caiso.com/Pages/TodaysOutlook.aspx -- chart near the bottom of the page.
Bruddah IZ
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Outrage over Trump’s climate deal withdrawal is like Groundhog Day
The left-wing Guardian newspaper said the president’s decision to withdraw from the global climate treaty signed by his Democratic predecessor represents “a blunt rebuff to European hopes” and has turned America into “the ultimate rogue state.” Britain’s Independent declared: “It is not even isolationism, it is in-your-face truculence.” The president of France called the decision “disturbing and unacceptable.” The US National Environmental Trust declared: “This is no way to conduct policy. It looks like amateur hour at the White House.”
The president being attacked is not Donald Trump. It is George W. Bush, who was chastised for his 2001 decision to withdraw the United States from the Kyoto treaty on global climate change signed by the Clinton administration.
Of course, the predicted apocalypse never happened. To the contrary, the Wall Street Journal reports that after Bush’s withdrawal the US “reduced emissions faster than much of Europe thanks to business innovation—namely, hydraulic fracturing that is replacing coal with natural gas.” It turns out that technology, not treaties, is the best way to curb emissions – and to do so without harming consumers by dramatically increasing the cost of electricity. In the years after Bush’s Kyoto withdrawal, electricity prices in the US were half of the European Union average (which went up by 55% from 2005 to 2013) and one-third of the price in Germany—where emissions, ironically, went up thanks to the abandonment of nuclear power.
No matter; the left-wing outrage machine savaged Bush anyway, just as it is savaging Trump today for his pending announcement of America’s withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement signed by Barack Obama.
Keep the pangs of outrage in perspective. We’ve seen this movie many times before. Republican president withdraws from cherished international agreement. Left goes into apoplexy. Rinse and repeat
The left-wing Guardian newspaper said the president’s decision to withdraw from the global climate treaty signed by his Democratic predecessor represents “a blunt rebuff to European hopes” and has turned America into “the ultimate rogue state.” Britain’s Independent declared: “It is not even isolationism, it is in-your-face truculence.” The president of France called the decision “disturbing and unacceptable.” The US National Environmental Trust declared: “This is no way to conduct policy. It looks like amateur hour at the White House.”
The president being attacked is not Donald Trump. It is George W. Bush, who was chastised for his 2001 decision to withdraw the United States from the Kyoto treaty on global climate change signed by the Clinton administration.
Of course, the predicted apocalypse never happened. To the contrary, the Wall Street Journal reports that after Bush’s withdrawal the US “reduced emissions faster than much of Europe thanks to business innovation—namely, hydraulic fracturing that is replacing coal with natural gas.” It turns out that technology, not treaties, is the best way to curb emissions – and to do so without harming consumers by dramatically increasing the cost of electricity. In the years after Bush’s Kyoto withdrawal, electricity prices in the US were half of the European Union average (which went up by 55% from 2005 to 2013) and one-third of the price in Germany—where emissions, ironically, went up thanks to the abandonment of nuclear power.
No matter; the left-wing outrage machine savaged Bush anyway, just as it is savaging Trump today for his pending announcement of America’s withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement signed by Barack Obama.
Keep the pangs of outrage in perspective. We’ve seen this movie many times before. Republican president withdraws from cherished international agreement. Left goes into apoplexy. Rinse and repeat
Bruddah IZ
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Fossil fuels take a naturally dirty environment and make it clean; they take a naturally dangerous climate and make it safer; the sun and wind are intermittent, unreliable fuels that always need backup from a reliable source of energy — usually fossil fuels; and, fossil fuels are the key to improving the quality of life for billions of people in the developing world. Calls to “get off fossil fuels” are calls to degrade the lives of innocent people who merely want the same opportunities we enjoy in the West.--CATO Institute
Bruddah IZ
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"Risk is everything, benefits are trivialized"--Epstein on the benefits of fossil fuels
Bruddah IZ
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97% ...."The fallacy of Equivocation"
Andy Dukes
PREMIER
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Yet another case of "just saying things" with no proof, good find Wez!
Sheriff Joe
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You ever play in Monterey?
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Awful pricey up there . . .
Bruddah IZ
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All thanks to fossil fuels
Sheriff Joe
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I have a buddy that has big connections up there, we played pebble, Monterey peninsula and Cypress point for just the caddie fees. Another ace we played was the preserve in the Carmel hills, ultra private, there were only 4 foursomes going out the day we were there and that was a Fri.
Hüsker Dü
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It's good to know people . . . sometimes in low places. I'm still trying to find time to make it up to Bandon Dunes, as I have connections there.