Our rec league rules for the youngest groups said no offside calls until halfway through the season. When the magic weekend arrived, confusion reigned.
Our rec league rules for the youngest groups said no offside calls until halfway through the season. When the magic weekend arrived, confusion reigned.
Socal United
SILVER ELITE
I heard about that? I think a lot of those confused ended up at RB
coachrefparent
GOLD
Conners park, San Marcos, 2016.
On this topic, I had to call 2 direct kicks in a U9 game over the weekend. Keeper 8 years old grabbed the ball twice outside the Penalty Area. Its U9 so I explained the rule, but the second time she was in tears. I waited until she dried her eyes a bit before allowing the DK. Good news is she stopped both.
I used to think that it was only beginning referees that got confused with direct/indirect calls - but here is a box score from a D1 college game, where an indirect kick was awarded after a handling call near midfield. Both teams questioned the call, the defenders arguing it was not handling, and the attackers asking why it was indirect. Eventually everyone just shrugged their shoulders and took the kick, which resulted in the only goal of the game.
http://www.ucdavisaggies.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2010-2011/ucdmsc11.html
Surfref
PREMIER
It would be a direct free kick at the spot where the whole of the ball completely crossed out of the penalty area boundary while meeting the criteria for handling (keeper holding the ball). It is the position of the ball and not the position of the player/keeper. Once the keeper is outside of the penalty area they are treated like a normal player.
There are infractions that can be committed by the keeper that can result in an indirect free kick, but all of those would occur in the penalty area.
Socal United
SILVER ELITE
It was placed in the right spot, etc. The kid on my team buried it, he called it back. I asked him how that could be, he said it was indirect. I then asked for clarification on the call, he said hand ball. My comment was "so it was a hand ball, but it was indirect." He said that it was. It was a 2010 game, so I let it go. The funnier part was the kid that hit the shot asking him twice why he took his goal away.
coachrefparent
GOLD
This is not possible. Referees cannot make mistakes. They are always right. Ask a troll.
It's not so much that they are always right, but that they are never wrong once a restart has occurred.
Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
This is the sort of self imposed, holier than thou fake frustrated anger that make this site so fun.
Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
How do you know the call was for hand ball?
I saw the play live (looked like possible handling to me, depending on the referee's angle and opinion), I watched the referee's gestures as he explained the play to the players on the field, and I spoke to some of the players after the game.
q.e.d.
Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
And this.
Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
And what did it look like to the referee? I take it you didn't ask him?
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Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
The players did. I spoke to the players right after the game ("what was that all about?"). Perhaps you missed that part.
@Just a Parent and @espola. You both made your point. Opinion was based on hearsay, was it reliable/accurate? Maybe or maybe not. The referee could have seen an IDK foul (such as, impeding opponent a second before the handling), went with advantage then called it back to a similar spot or just made a mistake.
My "hearsay" was watching the game and talking to players afterward, who had spoken to the referee when the call was made. The referee said out loud with transparent gestures that it was handling to the defenders who were complaining about the call. When the attackers asked why it was indirect, he just blew his whistle and waved for them to proceed. A short tap by one player (his only assist of the year) and then a long shot that caught the upper V perfectly. The attacking players thought it was funny, especially since the play resulted in the only goal of the game.
What "point" did JaP make? Do you suppose he was the referee in question? That would be even funnier.
Just a Parent
SILVER ELITE
The part I missed is where you spoke to the referee.