NoGoal
DA
Against Girls DA or at Blues and Slammers?
GIRLS DAII
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SIMONMAGUS
SILVER
lol@your defeatist attitude.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
why would anyone play DA 2????? It's like EGSL. There's a stigma to playing with the reserve, 2nd team. Will NEVER work.
Players want to play for the first team, plain and simple. They want the same opportunities!!!!!
Players want to play for the first team, plain and simple. They want the same opportunities!!!!!
Desert Hound
DA
I am not sure there is a stigma with the reserve team. For many moving up...at one point they make a stop on the reserve, prove themselves and move up within their club or another. You just don't start off your soccer career on the 1st team.
Are there many that never get off a reserve team? Yep.
Once again I come from the perspective of AZ. There are more options, etc in CA for sure.
In AZ we have 1 DA team and 1 ECNL team at this time. Those are the best options.
The 3rd best? Probably the DA2 team. Why?
- Well you play in the top league in AZ...still can play FWRL and above...and get to play some So Cal teams (assuming they get the DPL league worked out). It is attractive to get to play better So Cal competition vs simply playing AZ teams all the time.
So from an AZ standpoint for many DA2 does offer something attractive if you leave it at that.
Now I know del Sol is marketing their DA2 as a pathway to the DA...and that is BS. When it comes times to bring in players for the DA team...that club and any other DA club is going to look around at all the teams in the area and select who they think is the best. If by chance 1 or 2 happen to be on the DA2 team...great. The reality is...most will come from other teams.
Are there many that never get off a reserve team? Yep.
Once again I come from the perspective of AZ. There are more options, etc in CA for sure.
In AZ we have 1 DA team and 1 ECNL team at this time. Those are the best options.
The 3rd best? Probably the DA2 team. Why?
- Well you play in the top league in AZ...still can play FWRL and above...and get to play some So Cal teams (assuming they get the DPL league worked out). It is attractive to get to play better So Cal competition vs simply playing AZ teams all the time.
So from an AZ standpoint for many DA2 does offer something attractive if you leave it at that.
Now I know del Sol is marketing their DA2 as a pathway to the DA...and that is BS. When it comes times to bring in players for the DA team...that club and any other DA club is going to look around at all the teams in the area and select who they think is the best. If by chance 1 or 2 happen to be on the DA2 team...great. The reality is...most will come from other teams.
LadiesMan217
GOLD
I guess both. I heard some real bad stories about DOCs/coaches and how they treat these young girls that want to play DA or are trying out with other teams - in front of other teammates. I understand it is a business but you don't go off on 14, 15, 16 year old girls WTF. Player X are not starting today because we heard you are thinking about other clubs... why join that other club they are bad (where in fact they teach their players soccer), etc. etc. Pathetic.
Desert Hound
DA
Agree. Terrible.
My DD is moving on to another club (tryouts in AZ start May 1). Her club this year has a tournament this weekend (the last one of the year). She was told she cannot attend...even though she does not start with her new club until June.
Petty on their part.
The funny thing is a lot of clubs talk about loyalty...and are unhappy when their kids tryout with another club. Yet during tryouts clubs are happy to bring in someone better. I have no issue with clubs bringing in players. They are trying to upgrade teams, etc. But don't at the same time get on a kids case because they are looking around as well.
Because they aren't good enough yet to play on the DA team?
These clubs were doing that sh*t before DA. One of my own players passed on an offer from the Blues to play for a specific coach at a lesser known club. Coach called and stated he was "shocked" at her decision and it was "a mistake" etc etc. She's doing just fine now...
bababooey
GOLD
So you know the mentality of every player in girl's soccer? One size fits all?
Please expand on your thesis of "they want the same opportunities". I am very curious.
Thanks
NoGoal
DA
Funny, 3 years back my DD was offered a
I hear you, a lot of times these club coaches think it's all about them and their egos when in fact it's NOT.
OCsoccerMANiac
SILVER
Do DA2 teams coaches have to be a certain level License? If so I can see the attraction for better training (NOT that everyone with a A or B license is a "better" coach, but they have put the time/money/ and effort to achieve those license so a certain expectation is there).
It sounds like most DA programs will go after players they want regardless, so while yes it may be easier to go from DA2 to DA within the same club, are these the players they are looking for? OR should you play for a good non DA club and better your chances of being recruited by playing in high level leagues and tournaments?
I think the idea of "try outs" for DA clubs is sort of funny, when I hear about DAs have "try outs" its not for the DA team, if they wanted you there, you would of been recruited already.
It will be very interesting this year seeing how everything unfolds and if expectations are met. I'm very interested how clubs like LA Premier do, they seem to be flying under the radar, but they are putting a good "show" with their presentation of their DA program (check out their instagram).
It sounds like most DA programs will go after players they want regardless, so while yes it may be easier to go from DA2 to DA within the same club, are these the players they are looking for? OR should you play for a good non DA club and better your chances of being recruited by playing in high level leagues and tournaments?
I think the idea of "try outs" for DA clubs is sort of funny, when I hear about DAs have "try outs" its not for the DA team, if they wanted you there, you would of been recruited already.
It will be very interesting this year seeing how everything unfolds and if expectations are met. I'm very interested how clubs like LA Premier do, they seem to be flying under the radar, but they are putting a good "show" with their presentation of their DA program (check out their instagram).
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
Because there are only three DA teams within a reasonable drive of anyone living in the Valley or Ventura County and no ECNL teams in the area. Locally ECNL is now an Orange County/San Diego league. So for those players that don't make DA or want to continue to play High School soccer the DA2 teams are a good option in this area. They should be stronger than the EGSL teams and should be able to beat any of the Premier or Flight 1 teams in the local area. ECNL blew it by writing off this market.
OCsoccerMANiac
SILVER
Maybe this is news or somethings changed that I'm not aware of, but doesn't Real Socal and Eagles have ECNL? Arnt they located in or near Ventura County/Valley?
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
Both Real and Eagles will only be DA. No ECNL.
MakeAPlay
DA
Umm I mean this with all due respect. You have no idea what you are talking about. Eagles were an ECNL club and they are in Camarillo. Real So Cal was an ECNL club and they are in Oak Park. How again did ECNL blow it by not including a team from Ventura county? What ECNL blew was they made a successful platform for girls that caused US Soccer to want to get involved. Very little good happens from government involvement ESPECIALLY in sports!
At the end of the 2016-17 season, Real soCal and Eagles will no longer be a part of ECNL. I've heard multiple stories as to the reasons but do not know the truth as to why, but this turf war is ridiculous and the game will suffer for it.
NoGoal
DA
If a player in Ventura County or the San Fernando Valley doesn't get on a RSC or Eagles DA team. The player can always DP for an ECNL team. It could ruffle some feathers at the club, but it's an option. IMO, better option than DA2
