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GoWest said:
Some good points. I think ECNL ruling the roost for the next few years is a stretch. I anticipate an immediate negative impact on ECNL, especially in the SW conference, starting August 1, 2017. Just watch, teams like Heat and even newbie DMC will "all of a sudden" be able to compete. Maybe even sneak into the ECNL champions league. Let's revisit this in about a year or so when the 2017-2018 season is coming to a close. I have zero problem admitting when I am wrong but in this case, I just dont see it happening.

Unless the Baker Bros go their own way, I think we just might see them coaching a couple GDA teams starting in August.
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Are you saying that players 14-22 aren't good enough to make champions league?

As a parent I would certainly want to know where my dd is 1-18 before I would commit. Seriously that's a lot of time, money, and effort to be all in for a player that's number 11 per the coach.

@GoWest I'm unsure why you are so sold on something that hasn't even started and doesn't have receipts. Don't take it as a knock against you, I just don't get you constantly going to bat for something that only looks half way decent on paper.

Most parents that I know going into this aren't thrilled about GDA. It's been more of a wait and see approach.

You can't automatically assume it's the best because "they" said so.
 
shales1002 said:
Are you saying that players 14-22 aren't good enough to make champions league?

As a parent I would certainly want to know where my dd is 1-18 before I would commit. Seriously that's a lot of time, money, and effort to be all in for a player that's number 11 per the coach.

@GoWest I'm unsure why you are so sold on something that hasn't even started and doesn't have receipts. Don't take it as a knock against you, I just don't get you constantly going to bat for something that only looks half way decent on paper.

Most parents that I know going into this aren't thrilled about GDA. It's been more of a wait and see approach.

You can't automatically assume it's the best because "they" said so.
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Ya know MAP and I used to go round and round on this topic. When ECNL was first introduced in SoCal there were the 8 and then probably 3-4 additional that could always mix it up at any relevant age group. With DA there is going to be DA and 3-4 teams (ECNL or whatever) that will probably be able to mix it up. Nothing has really changed since the days when SoCal had the best league in the country called Premier. There are not more elite players available now then there was 7- 10 years ago. There is only so many to go around. Who are going to be the top 3-4 outside DA ? I don't know but it would be fair to reason that getting into Champions league from the SW just got a lot easier.
 
pulguita said:
Ya know MAP and I used to go round and round on this topic. When ECNL was first introduced in SoCal there were the 8 and then probably 3-4 additional that could always mix it up at any relevant age group. With DA there is going to be DA and 3-4 teams (ECNL or whatever) that will probably be able to mix it up. Nothing has really changed since the days when SoCal had the best league in the country called Premier. There are not more elite players available now then there was 7- 10 years ago. There is only so many to go around. Who are going to be the top 3-4 outside DA ? I don't know but it would be fair to reason that getting into Champions league from the SW just got a lot easier.
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Pulguita, but US Soccer has spoken and with over 10 Girls DA clubs in SoCal. There are well over 200+ elite players per age group now.:rolleyes:
 
NoGoal said:
US Soccer will find a way to eliminate ECNL altogether? I didn't know US soccer was the mafia, lmao!
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They are the governing body and can make life difficult for ECNL. Look how difficult they have made life in youth soccer in general.
They switched to true birth years.
They added all kinds of mandates, buildout lines, 7 v 7, 9 v 9 eliminating 8 v 8, etc.
They added GDA and are asking for something that will be difficult for clubs and players to commit to.
I don't think ECNL would pose a big problem for them when they are ready to take from there. It's all going to depend on this year and if the best players play GDA. If not, US soccer could mandate some more rules that ECNL wouldn't like with sub rules and no re-entry.
They will tolerate ECNL for a year or so but if the players don't move to GDA look for ECNL to be a distant memory sooner rather than later. If the players are gravitating to GDA then ECNL may survive as a second or third tier league but US Soccer can outspend and out market ECNL at every turn when they are ready to do so.
Ever been to a BDA showcase? No entry fee. ECNL is $1000 per event. If you think the college coach tents are awesome at ECNL, wait until you see how US Soccer does it up. It's impressive.
US Soccer isn't the mafia but they sure can make things disappear if driven to do so.
 
dreamz said:
They are the governing body and can make life difficult for ECNL. Look how difficult they have made life in youth soccer in general.
They switched to true birth years.
They added all kinds of mandates, buildout lines, 7 v 7, 9 v 9 eliminating 8 v 8, etc.
They added GDA and are asking for something that will be difficult for clubs and players to commit to.
I don't think ECNL would pose a big problem for them when they are ready to take from there. It's all going to depend on this year and if the best players play GDA. If not, US soccer could mandate some more rules that ECNL wouldn't like with sub rules and no re-entry.
They will tolerate ECNL for a year or so but if the players don't move to GDA look for ECNL to be a distant memory sooner rather than later. If the players are gravitating to GDA then ECNL may survive as a second or third tier league but US Soccer can outspend and out market ECNL at every turn when they are ready to do so.
Ever been to a BDA showcase? No entry fee. ECNL is $1000 per event. If you think the college coach tents are awesome at ECNL, wait until you see how US Soccer does it up. It's impressive.
US Soccer isn't the mafia but they sure can make things disappear if driven to do so.
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That's strong Kool-Aid you've been drinking. By any chance are you and GoWest drinking from the same pitcher?

I know, I know, your DD is playing Girls DA and is on a top team and will be heavily recruited by all of the best universities in the country. #yeahyeah
 
dreamz said:
Ever been to a BDA showcase? No entry fee. ECNL is $1000 per event. If you think the college coach tents are awesome at ECNL, wait until you see how US Soccer does it up. It's impressive.
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It should be impressive they only have one per year...in December ;). Unless you are including the playoffs in Juneo_O???
 
pulguita said:
Ya know MAP and I used to go round and round on this topic. When ECNL was first introduced in SoCal there were the 8 and then probably 3-4 additional that could always mix it up at any relevant age group. With DA there is going to be DA and 3-4 teams (ECNL or whatever) that will probably be able to mix it up. Nothing has really changed since the days when SoCal had the best league in the country called Premier. There are not more elite players available now then there was 7- 10 years ago. There is only so many to go around. Who are going to be the top 3-4 outside DA ? I don't know but it would be fair to reason that getting into Champions league from the SW just got a lot easier.
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I remember those debates and trying to get your player and her running mate to come over to the darkside. That would have been more than 40% of the Cal South ODP national champions on one roster. If we could have had Mauricio coach them that would truly have been something...
 
NoGoal said:
That's strong Kool-Aid you've been drinking. By any chance are you and GoWest drinking from the same pitcher?

I know, I know, your DD is playing Girls DA and is on a top team and will be heavily recruited by all of the best universities in the country. #yeahyeah
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Gosh how did you know?
 
Yes Baker is coaching DA
They will use Larry's (and others) A license until Baker gets his own A. Players through out south county are indeed foregoing HS to play with better players, and play better soccer. The cream rises to the top, and you won't get better playing crappy boot ball in HS.
I know of one club coach telling those players if you don't join this DA team now, there probably will not be a spot for you next year or whenever you decide to consider DA. So that player is planning on joining the DA team due to his threat.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
The DA will have the current ECNL players. Don't listen to message board noobs. My DD is playing DA.
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No, I know that. I just meant in reference to what the Baker Bros will do, as coaches, that they will keep their ECNL teams and have a DA team for the same ages.
 
Yes
Baker will have multiple teams- same age.... just like other coaches are doing. Not a big deal to have multiple teams in different leagues.
 
jojosoccer said:
Yes
Baker will have multiple teams- same age.... just like other coaches are doing. Not a big deal to have multiple teams in different leagues.
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If that is Happening I bet they get a HUGE turnout. They have never had dual teams in the same age group and if you want to play for them that is a pretty great opportunity
 
shales1002 said:
Are you saying that players 14-22 aren't good enough to make champions league?

As a parent I would certainly want to know where my dd is 1-18 before I would commit. Seriously that's a lot of time, money, and effort to be all in for a player that's number 11 per the coach.

@GoWest I'm unsure why you are so sold on something that hasn't even started and doesn't have receipts. Don't take it as a knock against you, I just don't get you constantly going to bat for something that only looks half way decent on paper.

Most parents that I know going into this aren't thrilled about GDA. It's been more of a wait and see approach.

You can't automatically assume it's the best because "they" said so.
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I appreciate your perspective and your approach to how you communicate your position. That's cool. I guess we will see what we see in a year or so. Like I've stated before, I may be wrong but let's at least give it a season before we draw final conclusions.
 
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