GIRLS DAII

Sheriff Joe said:
How many days a week did your Daughter train/play in her 15-16 years?
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Depends upon her age:

4-8 years old: 1.5 hours twice a week
9-11 years old: 2 hours twice a week plus another hour of privates once a week
12-13 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
14-17 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of conditioning and an hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
18+ GAP pack (YNT and college) once club was over and in between camps. In season training about 2 days a week plus 20-25 games. Just walk through 2 days a week. 1 full recovery day. Offseason training about 3 days a week plus weight training during the winter, 2-3 days of training plus weights and 6 spring games. Summer 4 days a week plus WPSL games and weights.

Does that answer your question?
 
pooka said:
Our girls are 4 years away from college and some are heading to high school next year. practice/training everyday will be the norm . if they are having overuse injuries from just training (which has plenty of breaks and times when coaches are talking) then that is another issue...
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Agree. I am talking about an 04 here though. Perhaps it's my professional bias but I won't allow mine to train or lift over a certain amount. I won't ever be joining the 6 day a week single sport train
 
chargerfan said:
That sounds miserable for parents and child.
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Certain girls are not athletes. They have been able to pretend playing three times a week in half ass practices and playing 30 percent. Now they can't. It's showing and I believe this year will be a BIG TIME shift. People who want to play high level will be ok. People who prefer more of a balance or multi sport may do ECNL.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Depends upon her age:

4-8 years old: 1.5 hours twice a week
9-11 years old: 2 hours twice a week plus another hour of privates once a week
12-13 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
14-17 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of conditioning and an hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
18+ GAP pack (YNT and college) once club was over and in between camps. In season training about 2 days a week plus 20-25 games. Just walk through 2 days a week. 1 full recovery day. Offseason training about 3 days a week plus weight training during the winter, 2-3 days of training plus weights and 6 spring games. Summer 4 days a week plus WPSL games and weights.

Does that answer your question?
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Yep, thx, not much of a choice when they get into their college years.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Agree. I am talking about an 04 here though. Perhaps it's my professional bias but I won't allow mine to train or lift over a certain amount. I won't ever be joining the 6 day a week single sport train
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Not to mention, middle and high school girls should also have a life outside of soccer
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Agree. I am talking about an 04 here though. Perhaps it's my professional bias but I won't allow mine to train or lift over a certain amount. I won't ever be joining the 6 day a week single sport train
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I agree there is a big difference between middle school and college which is why I put ages. My player never lifted weights in middle school and barely did in high school. In college it is huge. Also in college they only train twice a week in season then they have 2 games.
 
NoGoal said:
I agree, overtraining that leads to injury would be practicing and playing to much. Where as injury prevention targeting muscle imbalances through weight training and plyometrics isn't. Example: ACL prevention
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I "think" part of the DA program is to do training periodization. And 4 days a week of practice is not necessarily 4 days of training. 2 of those days may be weights, film, recovery.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I agree there is a big difference between middle school and college which is why I put ages. My player never lifted weights in middle school and barely did in high school. In college it is huge. Also in college they only train twice a week in season then they have 2 games.
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Games take a lot out of them if they are giving it 100%. I think coaches should cut down on the 3-4 day a week training during league when they are playing one or two games a weekend. I've seen a lot of bad overuse injuries this past year in 6th and 7th grade girls.
 
In the LAGSD "DA" program the girls will more than likely have true practice 3 days per week and the 4th day will be left for either strength & conditioning, speed & agility, film sessions, and a new "Mindset" program which I am probably most excited about. All LAGSD "DA" teams will be introduced to the program. As parents, we had our initial meeting the other night. This was meant merely as an introduction to the program so that we could gain a better understanding of what the girls would be working through. The founder of the program is part of the LAGSD coaching staff. What excites me the most are not only her Psychology credentials but the fact that she was a D1 head coach and also captained a 4 x national champion UNC team, was named MVP, never lost a college game, and played under one of the best (AW) and alongside some of the greatest players our nation has ever seen. (one girl named Mia) The objectives of the program are to get the girls to discover things about themselves that they may not have realized, explore their relationship with the sport, explore how they view themselves as a player & person. Recognize their personal strengths and enhance self image. What factors may be holding them back? All this and more working in either one on one or team building sessions.
I was able to sit down with my oldest dd last night (04) and walk through the program with her (in between her watching You Tube videos). I know the players will only get out of it what they put in. Like anything in life. I'm excited to know that a program like this will prepare her for her true path and allow her to set her goals accordingly. The first team session is this Sunday and I'm interested to see how the girls react to it. Many of them have already had Mindset Growth Programs introduced to them in school. I had to assure her that this would be much more meaningful. Another great point is that all DA coaches and DOC's at LAGSD will be going through their own programs as well. This is aimed at dealing with all of the different personalities and most importantly becoming better at the communication piece.
I'm not sure yet how this will optimize performance but if it can give just an ounce more of self confidence and self awareness on and off the field I feel it is really worth it. If the girls feel empowered they will be ready for anything.
If anybody wants more info on the program I would be happy to pass along your team's or personal info to the Mindset Sports founders. Just send me a PM as I don't believe their website is on line yet.
 
chargerfan said:
Games take a lot out of them if they are giving it 100%. I think coaches should cut down on the 3-4 day a week training during league when they are playing one or two games a weekend. I've seen a lot of bad overuse injuries this past year in 6th and 7th grade girls.
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Or maybe they shouldn't be playing 2 (or more) games in a weekend.
In general, playing a contact sport on back-to-back days is not a great idea. The Development Academy is taking the emphasis away from playing in tournaments. They say they'll play 30-40 games over the course of 10 months. That's 3-4 games per month. Some kids are playing that many games a weekend, for 6 weekends across the summer. That's 18-24 games in 6 weeks. About half as many as DA players will play over 40 weeks.
Tournaments are a lot of fun. Teams make a lot of money from them. But are they good for young players?
 
Not joking not going to miss that scene one second this summer! There should be Manchester, Surf Cup. That's it.
Everything else is a hot mess.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Depends upon her age:

4-8 years old: 1.5 hours twice a week
9-11 years old: 2 hours twice a week plus another hour of privates once a week
12-13 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
14-17 years old: 2-2.5 hours 3 times a week plus another hour of conditioning and an hour of privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year
18+ GAP pack (YNT and college) once club was over and in between camps. In season training about 2 days a week plus 20-25 games. Just walk through 2 days a week. 1 full recovery day. Offseason training about 3 days a week plus weight training during the winter, 2-3 days of training plus weights and 6 spring games. Summer 4 days a week plus WPSL games and weights.

Does that answer your question?
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MAP,
Did your daughter's team practice 2 - 2.5 hours 3 times a week? I really appreciate that you share your experiences.
 
dreamz said:
They have straight up said they do not want Surf, Slammers, Blues or West Coast to be a part of this. Even if they opt out of ECNL down the road. Those clubs B teams would destroy the likes of LAP, Carlsbad, Albion, Pats and others. They want no part of playing them in the DPD.
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You seem to have a lot of insider information which isn't public knowledge (which we appreciate you sharing to some extent). Where are you getting all of this?
 
clueless parent said:
MAP,
Did your daughter's team practice 2 - 2.5 hours 3 times a week? I really appreciate that you share your experiences.
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Yes, once she hit U12 the practices were on average a little over 2 hours. Once she hit U14 (her first year of ECNL) they added a conditioning day where they would run for about an hour. They would do some distance and then short sprints. She also did privates once a week for about 2/3 of the year. If she had a showcase she would ease up on the conditioning and the privates due to 3-4 games over the course of a 3-4 days period is a lot. I would say fatigue is a big contributor to injuries in girl's soccer and we were very big on her having proper rest. She ran track in the spring so it was even more critical the second half of the year. We were lucky that she had a coach that put the players development first even when it might have cost him a game. I can't emphasize enough how important a good coach, that values the girls first and his/her career second, is to a players development and well being.
 
Kicker4Life said:
You seem to have a lot of insider information which isn't public knowledge (which we appreciate you sharing to some extent). Where are you getting all of this?
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I hang out in a lot of dark alleys behind the right bars where secret meetings take place and I listen.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Agree. I am talking about an 04 here though. Perhaps it's my professional bias but I won't allow mine to train or lift over a certain amount. I won't ever be joining the 6 day a week single sport train
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What are people lifting? I was told by several trainers that no weights should be done until 15/16. Right now she'll do body weight, that's all. We are at 5 days a week plus games. If she has 2 games that weekend we don't train Friday.
 
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