NoGoal
DA
It will be without Legends, Beach, Eastside (partnering with Reign DA) now in Girls DA. IMO, it's still a far superior league than this DP league though and great for clubs who don't participate in Girls DA and ECNL.
GIRLS DAII
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Livinthedream
SILVER ELITE
I agree with you there NG...I'm thinking NL will be watered down a lot. But if the DA and ECNL Teams can't play NL, and NL still wants to have 32 Teams per age group...I would think NL would still have an Open Division where the committee picks worthy Teams. Im sure some Clubs will place some of there DA players on NL rosters...if it's allowed.
O'HARAHAWK10
BRONZE
I look at it this way.. The 04's that were being prepped this past season to become the full time ECNL team now have been slighted to be that clubs DA team once DA was announced. The flight 1 team now becomes the ECNL team, which can leave some players and parents thinking of DAII as a step closer to becoming a full time DA player. Blues /WC/Strikers see it differently and are keeping course with ECNL and DA and not participating in this so called League/Division
NoGoal
DA
Had that expanded to 32 teams per age group?
I believe rostered DA players can't play National League. If it wasn't the case, the DA/ECNL clubs like Slammers, Blues, WCFC and Surf would have their players who don't play a lot on the Girls DA teams, also play for the ECNL team.
So the boys have PDA (Pre- Academy)which appears to be similar to the DPL?
2016/17 Pre-Academy Program is for Boys 2002 - 2005
Purpose: The Pre-Academy program is in response to US Soccer's initiative to develop more players, beginning at younger ages. As a member of the US Soccer Development Academy, is taking initiative to develop those players who have the ambition and aspirations to become a world class player, and to contribute to Youth National Teams and competitive college soccer programs during their career.
U12 Pre-Academy
Our U12 Pre-Academy program is the entry level and consists of a pool of 22 players who compete in both 9v9 and 11v11 formats given the variety in physical development that is present at this age. The competitive calendar includes league play, tournament play as well as friendlies with other Academy clubs. Players train 2-3 times per week.
U13 and U14 Pre-Academy Teams
The U13 and U14 Pre-Academy teams all compete in the US Club National Premier Leagues- Midwest Developmental League (MDL). The MDL consists of 11 other Academy clubs in the Midwest including several Major League Soccer Clubs (Chicago Fire, Sporting KC, Columbus Crew) along with a select group of elite non-Academy clubs. Players train 3-4 times per week.
2016/17 Pre-Academy Program is for Boys 2002 - 2005
Purpose: The Pre-Academy program is in response to US Soccer's initiative to develop more players, beginning at younger ages. As a member of the US Soccer Development Academy, is taking initiative to develop those players who have the ambition and aspirations to become a world class player, and to contribute to Youth National Teams and competitive college soccer programs during their career.
U12 Pre-Academy
Our U12 Pre-Academy program is the entry level and consists of a pool of 22 players who compete in both 9v9 and 11v11 formats given the variety in physical development that is present at this age. The competitive calendar includes league play, tournament play as well as friendlies with other Academy clubs. Players train 2-3 times per week.
U13 and U14 Pre-Academy Teams
The U13 and U14 Pre-Academy teams all compete in the US Club National Premier Leagues- Midwest Developmental League (MDL). The MDL consists of 11 other Academy clubs in the Midwest including several Major League Soccer Clubs (Chicago Fire, Sporting KC, Columbus Crew) along with a select group of elite non-Academy clubs. Players train 3-4 times per week.
Sheriff Joe
DA
I believe some ECNL players played National League games this season.
ECNL players are allowed to play in other leagues so some clubs used ECNL players on USYS teams.
DA players can ONLY play for DA teams. They can not play in any other league or be registered through any other association.
More fun facts on why Presidio is going to run this division. While the members of Presidio knew nothing of this decision, the Board of Directors gave permission for the division (they thought it was a league) to be run through Presidio.
The Presidio Board of Directors are paid to be board members. They are also paid over time for anything above and beyond the scope of their regular responsibilities.
On the Presidio board is an LAGSD member who will be compensated as the scheduler for this division.
Any disciplinary actions, reschedules, posting of schedules, etc will be done by board members and they will be compensated accordingly.
I would say the Presidio board member that represents LAGSD and who will also be compensated for scheduling this division has a bit of a conflict of interest.
Also, any board member that stands to benefit financially from this division being part of their league has a conflict of interest.
Interesting that there is a financial benefit for the people who voted to host this division but that no one that has no financial stake in this (the Presidio members) had any say in the decision.
Presidio members are not happy.
NoGoal
DA
Really? the only 2 ways is if the National League player was a discovery player for an ECNL team. The other is if, a Ulittle player was playing up on her clubs U14 ECNL team and then brought down to help the U13 team who qualified for National League/USYS Championship series.
Sheriff Joe
DA
I don't believe you are correct on that one.
NoGoal
DA
Do tell how an ECNL player ended up playing for a National League team?
Sheriff Joe
DA
I wasn't there, but heard Arsenal had ECNL girls playing.
mahrez
SILVER ELITE
Wow, talk about a tangled web that's been weaved. Comes down this copy cat like web site complete with a fake press release run by sd clubs as a presido division.
LAG not funding or planning on participating, RSC might partially, others only some of the the age groups so these probable 6-8 team dpl divisions playing in LA, SD, & two states seem to go against the Presido charter and don't offer any real benefits.
LAG not funding or planning on participating, RSC might partially, others only some of the the age groups so these probable 6-8 team dpl divisions playing in LA, SD, & two states seem to go against the Presido charter and don't offer any real benefits.
Info from the Presidio members meeting last night has it that the membership voted against the DP division by a large margin. So no DPD in Presidio. Sounds like the bozo brigade stood up to plead a case with nothing substantial to offer to anyone outside of their exclusive circus other than the opportunity to play their B teams in scrimmages and "priority" not guaranteed, entry in to their meaningless showcase events, like November Nights. WOW! Such a carrot! Meaning, vote for the DPD in Presidio and we'll still say no to you playing in our sandbox. One bozo even mentioned that DPD would "allow the DA clubs to cast a wider net" over the players in Presidio, meaning if you vote for DPD we'll have even more power to recruit your players thank you very much.
Sounds like the Presidio members saw through the smoke and mirrors and saw what a scam this is. Now if only the parents could see the scam.
My guess is that the DA clubs are charging higher fees for being a player on a DA2 team which helps finance their DA teams. Without DA2, these are regular teams and therefore, no reason to charge higher fees. They are trying to sell something, that is nothing, for more money. Nice, quality people running the bozo brigade.
One of the other things mentioned last night was the "national interest" in the DA2 program. People, take a look at the DA conferences nationwide. In whose right mind does ANY conference look like a good decision for B teams to play in a DA2 league with all of the travel that would be involved nationwide? B teams need the most bang for every buck they spend. When they pay to travel, they need to maximize the college exposure. Not travel, by plane, to play 1 game that potentially costs $300-$500 for no exposure. Waste of money. The travel will be hard enough on the DA players much less the B team players.
Make your $$ count towards something. This fake scam of a division isn't worth it.
IntheknowSoccer
BRONZE
It was not about choice re: RSC/Eagles and ECNL vs DA. Remember, both RSC and Eagles were already members of the DA for boys. They were then thrown out of ECNL because they chose not to let their boys play ECNL.
younothat
PREMIER
Dos Equis
GOLD
The competing narrative that came out of the ECNL general meeting in February was only clubs who had won an ECNL National Championship would be allowed to compete in both ECNL and DA, all others had to choose.
Perhaps you can refute this argument by listing what years/age groups Eagles or Arsenal won ECNL National Championships. I honestly do not have that history, nor could I find it quickly on the web.
Dos Equis
GOLD
Wow, turning into a tragic comedy or something?
They could register as an NPL under US Club Soccer. A few years back, both SCDSL and CSL ran competing NPL division for girls in Socal, in the early years of ECNL, when everyone was panicking and no one knew what the non-ECNL, post-CSL Premier future would look like. Both those leagues faded away.
Of course, that means no USYS State/National Cup, but they could compete in US CLub Soccer Nationals. Then they truly would be separate, and never have to be held be accountable or compete with a single team from Socal in "games that matter."
so the Boys DA have the Pre-Academy?
Eagles has no DA for Boys- Santa Barbara & Real Do?