I have said a residency program for the girls? If so was I drunk? With no money in womens soccer that would be lunacy. Just to get players for the NT? How many times have I said the NT is not the goal. Lucrative pro soccer is the goal. The NT happens from the outcome of lucrative pro soccer. The US has it backwards. If they truly want to move forward they have to fix that. Who makes the money? Barca and Real Madrid or the Spanish Federation? Who trains the players the clubs or the federation. That is what is wrong here. We can't get that figured out. BTW Santa Clara is an RPI game Beijing is a scrimmage. So Sunday might be another play 29 game and figure out some more personal combinations. Should be fun.
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MakeAPlay
DA
i remember you saying that if they were serious that was what they would do. I didn't think that you were advocating it you were just stating that it would be a sign that they were serious. To give you context we were talking about the Japanese team and what they were doing right. I also believe that you mentioned the lengths that the Japanese Federation was going through in order to improve their program. We did discuss pro women's soccer and many other topics. We usually see eye to eye on most issues.
I hear you about the Santa Clara game mattering more but that Beijing team is gonna be the tougher of the two. With the upcoming schedule they have KM will want to get some things figured out and probably won't go that deep down the roster again. Good luck to your daughter again. She is a sweet kid and my player thinks the world of her.
soccermanifesto
BRONZE
Based on recruitment by the top academic and top division 1 soccer universities, you cannot make the case that Pateadores develops elite players. All other GDA clubs at least have 3 players (if not many more in the case of Blues, Slammers, Real, and WC) recruited by the top schools.
There is a reason Pateadores was admitted, but developing great female players ain't it.
outside!
DA
I always thought development happened at the younger ages as well. How many of the top OC/LA area teams have players that may have started their development at Pats?
NoGoal
DA
In my DDs U18/19 age group, NOT many. Matter of fact, I can't even name one who played for a Pats ulittle team and on an ECNL team today. Who in the OC is going to have their DDs play on a Pats Ulittle girls team 9 or so years ago when their DDs could play for Blues, WCFC, Slammers, and Eclipse (before Strikers merger)?
Pats was an all boys club 8-9 years ago.
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eastbaysoccer
GOLD
well folks we get to determine if this works. Based on the Nor cal, so cal, Arizona, TX and OR forums it's split and no slam dunk.
To me this will be just more talent dilution that really will do nothing to improve development but will put more money in coaches pockets.
To me this will be just more talent dilution that really will do nothing to improve development but will put more money in coaches pockets.
goldentoe
SILVER
For what it's worth, my daughter's team played up and was grouped with 2 Pats team in the U18 age group of Player's Showcase last year. The two teams varied widely in quality. The stronger of the 2 was very good. They were strong, fast, technical....pretty much a handful.I had a brief conversation with one of the parents. His daughter was committed to Pepperdine. She was a very pacey, wing attacking player. He said that many of the girls were committed to Division 1 programs. To give you a reference point for my comments, my daughter's team competed in Virginia in the ECNL U16 finals in 2015. So I don't know much about Peteadores as a whole, but that particular team we played can compete with just about anyone.
dfbmike
BRONZE
While I agree with most of your post and you seem to get it, winning a world cup or other major international championship can actually funnel a lot of $$$ into your national program.
soccermanifesto
BRONZE
Pepperdine is a great Academic institution ranked 52nd in the nation, and is well-coached and scrappy based on 2 fairly recent games I've seen, better than their NCAA 133rd rank would indicate. A year ago I think it was, I watched them upset USC.
Presently in the 2016 -2018 graduating classes from So Cal, Pepperdine has 1 Real So Cal recruit, 3 from Slammers, 2 from Eagles, 1 from Surf, a GK from Strikers, 1 from WC, and 1 from non-ECNL Carlsbad Elite.
While I'm sure they have some good players, I do think its telling that Pateadores, as far as I know, hasn't got a single 2016-2018 commit in the top 26 Academic and NCAA ranked teams, whereas non-ECNL Legends, LA Premier, and Carlsbad all have several. They seem to be the one head-scratcher on the girls side of the GDA announcements.
NoGoal
DA
A alot of those players were not developed at Pateadores. A few players followed Neil Powell from Eclipse or Strikers after Neil elected not to coach at Strikers after the club merger. That team was formed 2 years ago, 3 years tops.
The GK is at pats now. The other Pepp committ isn't listed on the Google spreadsheet. Neither is the San Francisco commit nor the others.
Both academy teams at Pats are a combination of ex strikers players that followed NP and top players from existing pats teams. NP started a program at Pats that follows the boys Academy structure.
NoGoal
DA
That is GKrent's DD who began as a ulittle Eclipse player.
NoGoal
DA
Okay, I'll bite how is the player a Pats player and a SD United player when referring back to your last 2 posts?
SoccerDad77
SILVER
What structure would that be? Recruit as much as you can? Hope to get lucky and "develop" a player or two from within your 196 team player pool?... It works for them on the boys side, so I assume it will work on the girls. But on merit alone, there's no argument to made they belong in the same sentence as blues, WCFC, slammers etc.
goldentoe
SILVER
Kind of like a few years after the ECNL rolled out, it was obvious there were some head scratchers there also. Looking back, there were a few clubs the ECNL took in based only on the success of one team, and most of the time the one good team wasn't even developed by that club. It would not be surprising to see history repeat itself. It would be more surprising if it didn't.
Ah hah! My deductive Sherlock homes reasoning has it figured out. I will not let the cat out of the bag. You are right I did say that about 6-7 years ago. Has it been that long? F'n -a. I must admit I was a bit naive back then and hadn't realized the impact that High School has on young ladies. Our kids weren't even thinking about that they were just happy playing any chance they got. Could you imagine blowing that experience all off with the hopes of making - $30 K a year if you are lucky and maybe securing a 1-4 spot slot every 4 years by spending it in a residency program. I will stand by my most recent comment - lunacy. If it was millions or hundreds of thousands maybe. Now that I've changed - haha , get an outstanding degree, if you can play a bit and travel after college do it. If you kick ass and get called in great. But again tell their is lucrative money residency would nuts.
Silky Johnston
SILVER
Funny but you can probably make more $ coaching youth club soccer than you can actually playing women's pro soccer.