2016-1017 GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER THREAD

Kicker4Life said:
Just post the picture of SC holding the trophy....like I always tell my DD. The best way to silence the haters is to win the game!

Hell, 90% of the critics on this forum have never even played the game and couldn't coach a possession drill if they tried.
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Are you lost, because this is the adults thread. Your ulittle 2003/2004 thread is a few clicks down!
 
Legendary FC said:
I watched almost every game that the Trojans played and I would love to see video of them playing the ball on the ground against a decent team. The truth is it isn't out there. I give them all the credit in the world for winning. Calling them a possession team or a team that plays possession is disingenuous at best and straight up false if you ask me. We will get clarity on all of it in 5 months.

If their forwards were so good why did the team have a losing record against California schools? They can't even boss their own neighborhood. That reminds me of the kid that was a tough guy at his private school but is a nobody when he comes home to his hood.

Please watch this game and enlighten me as to when they played more than kick and hope and thug ball.

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North Carolina and Stanford not good enough for you. It may not be "possession" to your liking, but calling it "kick and hope" in order to create offense is simply wrong. Clearing to relieve pressure is not the same as kicking it to an open space to create offense (at least consistently,though that may be the correct play in certain situations).

So they lost some games, so what. Barca lost to celta vigo recently, does that make celta better than Barca?

No, you will not get clarity in 5 months because we are talking specifically about last years team. Every team is different and they may not be able to play possession through their forwards like they did last year.

You're very smart in trying to pin SC on what they will look like this coming year, and you're probably right because in all likelihood, they will not be as good as last year. Those three forwards playing together and having chemistry is going to be hard to repeat. However, what we are discussing here is what type of game they played last year.

Were they able to play their usual game against West Virginia (or Georgetown for that matter), No. However, neither was WV or Gtown.

Talking about UCLA last year, yes they could possess nicely the first 2/3, but were awful in the final 1/3 after Jenkins went down. They have some nice pieces coming in (and I will be rooting for them, I'm an alum), but there is no guarantee they will be as good and effective as SC's trio from last year. That trio, in college soccer, was special
 
Justafan said:
So if they repeat, they play possession, but if not, they dont? Very clever. Look, people may have different definitions of "possession," "kickball," or "direct," but if you're implying that USC played kickball as in "kick & hope," as someone else here has described it, then you are wrong.

Did SC play tiki taka? No. Was it the most sophisticated or aesthetically pleasing? Maybe not, but to call it kick & hope is dishonest. SC played a lot of possession through their mids (countless ground hugging passes through the seems from freeman to mills/Andrews, and trust me if Freeman wanted to, she could kick it to the moon. Countless times Prisock would dribble up the back line, fake off the forward, and get the ball to the mids or forwards).

They also played a lot of possession through their forwards. Pruitt, Johnson, and Anthony could all play with their backs to the goal and a lot of balls went through them (see game winner against Georgetown).

What you saw against West Virginia was a very good and VERY athletic team and yes, SC had trouble playing the type of game they had played all year. Shoot, even Barcelona has had trouble all season long with high pressure. Yes, SC had to clear plenty of balls to relieve pressure (in fact Prisock cleared/booted some balls when she was not under much pressure, something she hadn't done all year, but I think the opponent had something to do about that). Even the second goal SC scored started with a clear from Andrews at the 18, which Pruitt chased down, and had the skill and composure to give Johnson a nice ball to handle and score from.

What distinguished SC more than anything is that they had 3 very capable forwards who knew how to put the ball in the net. Nobody in the country had anything close to that trio. Thats why some of us on this board were so high on SC from the get go. I've watched a lot of college soccer and there are a lot of so called top teams that would not have put that second goal in the net. Pruitt's physical ability to win the ball, composure and skill to place a very good pass (under the circumstances) to Johnson, and Johnson's composure to put the ball in the net, could not have been accomplished by any other team in the nation.
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I disagree, USC strength was not their forwards it was their backline and GK aka defense. I watched USC play. They have the thickest girls among the Pac12 teams and yes their are some thin players/team (UCLA). Where am I going with this? The players thickness is why they were the most physical team in the NATION last year. There is a forward on USC who played on the same HS as my DD. My DD heard This USC forward gained 30 pounds at USC.
 
Justafan said:
North Carolina and Stanford not good enough for you. It may not be "possession" to your liking, but calling it "kick and hope" in order to create offense is simply wrong. Clearing to relieve pressure is not the same as kicking it to an open space to create offense (at least consistently,though that may be the correct play in certain situations).

So they lost some games, so what. Barca lost to celta vigo recently, does that make celta better than Barca?

No, you will not get clarity in 5 months because we are talking specifically about last years team. Every team is different and they may not be able to play possession through their forwards like they did last year.

You're very smart in trying to pin SC on what they will look like this coming year, and you're probably right because in all likelihood, they will not be as good as last year. Those three forwards playing together and having chemistry is going to be hard to repeat. However, what we are discussing here is what type of game they played last year.

Were they able to play their usual game against West Virginia (or Georgetown for that matter), No. However, neither was WV or Gtown.

Talking about UCLA last year, yes they could possess nicely the first 2/3, but were awful in the final 1/3 after Jenkins went down. They have some nice pieces coming in (and I will be rooting for them, I'm an alum), but there is no guarantee they will be as good and effective as SC's trio from last year. That trio, in college soccer, was special
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Huh, Pulguita who has a DD at USC posted they will play possession this year. I hope he is right, if not......he will be called on the carpet!
 
Kicker4Life said:
Ladies and gentlemen....I give you one of the 90%!
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Seriously, you need to stick to trying to figure out Girls DA! Your kid hasn't even started the recruiting process yet. Don't jump ahead of yourself thinking she will be playing college soccer, the more Pac12 soccer. LMAO!
 
NoGoal said:
Seriously, you need to stick to trying to figure out Girls DA! Your kid hasn't even started the recruiting process yet. Don't jump ahead of yourself thinking she will be playing college soccer, the more Pac12 soccer. LMAO!
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She's 12....I'm not worried about it! Let's try to stay on topic.
 
Justafan said:
North Carolina and Stanford not good enough for you. It may not be "possession" to your liking, but calling it "kick and hope" in order to create offense is simply wrong. Clearing to relieve pressure is not the same as kicking it to an open space to create offense (at least consistently,though that may be the correct play in certain situations).

So they lost some games, so what. Barca lost to celta vigo recently, does that make celta better than Barca?

No, you will not get clarity in 5 months because we are talking specifically about last years team. Every team is different and they may not be able to play possession through their forwards like they did last year.

You're very smart in trying to pin SC on what they will look like this coming year, and you're probably right because in all likelihood, they will not be as good as last year. Those three forwards playing together and having chemistry is going to be hard to repeat. However, what we are discussing here is what type of game they played last year.

Were they able to play their usual game against West Virginia (or Georgetown for that matter), No. However, neither was WV or Gtown.

Talking about UCLA last year, yes they could possess nicely the first 2/3, but were awful in the final 1/3 after Jenkins went down. They have some nice pieces coming in (and I will be rooting for them, I'm an alum), but there is no guarantee they will be as good and effective as SC's trio from last year. That trio, in college soccer, was special
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We will get clarity in 5 months as the coach will have a chance to show what style he trains. I know what style UCLA is committed to. All of the evidence for last years USC team is on film and it is not pretty. It wins domestically but what about internationally? How many times did Fleming nutmeg USC defenders in that game. I saw Mills, Freeman, Prisock and Molen all get megged in a HUGE game! I saw UCLA stick to their style of play regardless of who they played. Did you know that West Virginia was supposed to clear the snow off of the field when they played UCLA but intentionally did not? Why do you think that they did that?

This is a good discussion and knowing that you are a Bruin at least lets me know you will try to be pragmatic about it. I saw their games against Stanford and UNC and you are right Stanford did possess the ball but I was talking about USC. The game against North Carolina was both teams playing as direct as a flight from LAX to John Wayne.

I know that you think that those 3 forwards are better than what UCLA has coming in but you are quite mistaken. Have you seen the current UCLA team play? I respectfully submit that you haven't. I have and will be watching again on Tuesday and USC wasn't better last year and won't even be in the same zip code this year and you don't have to trust me ask those that saw them in Vegas.

UCLA's possession game was all over the field including the final third. I can't reveal any inside info unfortunately but they connect more passes in the 18 yard box than any team in college soccer even without Jenkins. Their problem is that the formation that they played up until the USC game was drilled and designed with a 5'10 hammer named Darian destined to be at the end of it. The coach changed tactics after they got shut out and they were never out scored again and those are the facts.

You are a Bruin and that I respect. USC won a national championship and that I respect. Their coach got his team to play a style that was good enough to win so I respect his ability to create chicken salad. He has 3 years of his recruits on campus in July. Let's see what masterpiece he creates.

Oh and I am an alum too.

GO BRUINS!
 
NoGoal said:
I disagree, USC strength was not their forwards it was their backline and GK aka defense. I watched USC play. They have the thickest girls among the Pac12 teams and yes their are some thin players/team (UCLA). Where am I going with this? The players thickness is why they were the most physical team in the NATION last year. There is a forward on USC who played on the same HS as my DD. My DD heard This USC forward gained 30 pounds at USC.
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You forgot to mention that the 30 pounds was after she transferred from another D1 school. Maybe they should cut back on the power lifting and training table (or is it a feedbag?) and work on passing the ball on the ground against good teams.

I do like that forward though. Not sure why she came off the bench instead of starting.
 
Legendary FC said:
You forgot to mention that the 30 pounds was after she transferred from another D1 school. Maybe they should cut back on the power lifting and training table (or is it a feedbag?) and work on passing the ball on the ground against good teams.

I do like that forward though. Not sure why she came off the bench instead of starting.
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Yes, power lifting the championship trophy.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
IDK
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Lot's of history. We have been on this forum for 7 years. Not a lot of secrets between older posters. Guys like Bernie have grown on me over time. I don't always see eye to eye with him but I respect him and my dd thinks that his dd is a very good player and that is a huge compliment coming from her. NG's daughter is fun to watch and sticks out like a purple dinosaur on her current team. pulgita's dd has been one of my favorite players since the North County Boca days and YOP.

Take the long view. Think end game.
 
Legendary FC said:
Lot's of history. We have been on this forum for 7 years. Not a lot of secrets between older posters. Guys like Bernie have grown on me over time. I don't always see eye to eye with him but I respect him and my dd thinks that his dd is a very good player and that is a huge compliment coming from her. NG's daughter is fun to watch and sticks out like a purple dinosaur on her current team. pulgita's dd has been one of my favorite players since the North County Boca days and YOP.

Take the long view. Think end game.
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I wish I knew how some of the old forum names align with the new...
 
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