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I know the answer. She either sits the bench, transfers, hopes the other player gets injured or hopes for a bunch of blowout games so that she can play.
Do defenders get recruited???
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I know the answer. She either sits the bench, transfers, hopes the other player gets injured or hopes for a bunch of blowout games so that she can play.
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My dd played a different position in club for most of career than she plays in college and she was good enough to be an ODP/Pro Plus player at the other position. Focus on being a good soccer player not a particular position. Once you get to U17/18/19 then specialize.
I suppose you ride the pine most of the time.
Since most colleges carry 25~30 players on the roster, the math is simple. If you don't like that, you can quit or move on. It is what it is. What makes you think that if you're not good enough to be on the field in the best position for the player, that the same player would be better than others elsewhere on the pitch?
I made the comment with playing for some college in mind. I also realize that some players do end up playing different positions too. But there has to be a fit on both sides. Its a part of the recruiting process to find the right match between the player and the coach, including where they see your kid playing. Clearly, I believe education quality comes first but set that aside for moment and deal only with the soccer aspects.
We differ in the fundamental underlying brief how best to go about development and getting recruited to the next level.
What exactly is a "good soccer player" without the context of particular position?
Waiting until U17+ to specialize, is simply too late for most. I know you'll disagree so lets agree to disagree on that point.
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Have you been reading the thread? Forwards and attacking mids are converted as wingbacks in college, because there is a shortage of outside defenders who are great at attacking down the flanks. That is why a player who knows multiple positions and is accepting of changing positions in college will thrive.
Example: All of the incoming Stanford freshmen players are great forwards on there club teams. Yet, it doesn't mean they will be great forwards at Stanford. It's why KP, JH and SS will play wingback at Stanford. There is always someone better out here.
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Let me guess, your DD played only one position her entire club career.
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A good soccer player can receive a pass under pressure, turn under pressure, dribble under pressure, complete a pass under pressure. They can defend 1v1, defend 2v2, defend 3v3, defend 1v2 and so on and so forth. They can strike a ball with power and accuracy. They can pass on the ground and switch the field with an accurate ball in the air. They can run at a defender with step overs and other attacking moves. They have a soccer brain that gets them in the right position to make plays. THEY MAKE PLAYS and influence the outcome of the game. Soccer players will play anything and play it well. I like soccer players.
Sheriff Joe
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That's me.
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Let's agree to disagree. My dd played multiple positions up until her U18 season and could have lead the Southwest conference in scoring had forward been her only position. She doesn't play forward in college.
NoGoal
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I agree, there have been many players at multiple levels who have made changes in position. My guess they wanted to play on the team or the head coach approach and suggested to try this position...since, there is a opening.
1. Klingenberg-UNC attacking mid, US WNT-wingback
2. Solo-Club team forward, college/US WNT-GK
3. Dunn- can play wingback or forward. Played both as a Pro and US WNY.
4. Heather O'Reilly- Stanford forward, US WNT- wingback
5. Lauren Chaney- UCLA forward, US WNT- holding mid
6. T.M.- USC incoming freshmen, plays forward at club and plays centerback for U19 YNT
7. Refer to the Stanford incoming freshmen mentioned earlier
8. Gorloski- UCLA player, played forward in club, at UCLA-wingback
9. Cerda-UCLA player, played forward in club, at UCLA-wingback
The list can go on and on.
NoGoal
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Correction not Heather O'Reilly. I meant Kelley O'Hara-Stanford forward, pro/US WNT wingback.
Yes I have and you've actually responded to my earlier question about this exact subject as I found it odd that there were shortage of outside backs that attacked. You might recall that I said its a common playing style for the boys side.
I am expressing a general soccer view but it appears that there's no point because the girls game is so different than boys that we cannot have a generic discussion.
Ok your right. I guess generically, good soccer players can do all of those things and more.
It does not, however, make any of the attribute into an elite player. All of those things are simply compulsory to play the game at the high level. Maybe we're discussing in parallel. The characteristics and attributes are requirements and not a differentiator. What separates outstanding players from others is how they use all of those abilities. And for that, you need to have it in the context of positions on the field.
Well, my daughter never played soccer.
My son does and he's aways been an attacking player and has been recruited as a forward and will play forward in college. He's been playing a forward since U13 90% of the time. Other 10% as an attacking mid when needed.
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You having a boy makes a lot of sense. Girls have their positions changed all of the time and some players are very one dimensional and don't see nearly as much field time as the players that her coach can plug in all over the field.
NoGoal
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IMO, There is a difference in college player needs between the boys and girls. There are far more college women soccer teams than men soccer teams, yet they will have approximately the same number of DA clubs/teams. In D1 the mens only has 205 teams vs women having 332. It's why there is a shortage of attacking women fullbacks (wingbacks) and why there are more attacking players converted on the women side than on the mens side.
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Daughter, son....I was still right that your child predominately played one position and why you have your opinion of in order to be great, a player needs to focus on one position. Messi plays multiple positions, foward for Barca and attacking ctr mid for Argentina.
After watching Messi for many years at Barca and Argentina, he is really a false 9 anyway. He is not a pure striker/forward like Suarez. Besides, Argentina lets him do whatever he wants on the field - just keep Messi happy is their field tactics.
NoGoal
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Of course he isn't a pure striker like Suarez or Ibra, but he can still play forward and attacking center mid.
NoGoal
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ere are a few pro male players who were converted or can play multiple positions.
Gareth Bale- former fullback/defender now Real Madrid forward
Jordi Alba- former midfielder now Barcelona wingback
Sergio Ramos-former wingback now center defender for Real Madrid
Philip Lamb- wingback, played center mid while Pep was Bayern's head coach
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I also forgot:
Carlos Puyol retired Barca center defender. He played forward, midfield, wingback and centerback. Yet, was one of the best defenders ever.