MLS Next 2 schedules announced
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RandomSoccerFan
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Thank goodness CalNorth has settled on using intelligible names for these Tier 2 teams - it will make it that much more straightforward for people to understand how the clubs are performing relative to each other and the outside world. It would certainly be a step forward if it were a model for other geographies, but that so far doesn't seem to be the case. One example bracket:
soccerdad247
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RandomSoccerFan
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One of them can't be correct - and it looks like they haven't sorted it out yet. Will be clear by the time games are played, I imagine.
Look at it from the individual team level:
Here's Burlingame U14 Tier 2: https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/43203/schedules?team=3013978
Here's also Burlingame U14 Tier 2: https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/43201/schedules?team=3013782
Game days are identical - but they are playing all different teams. Either there are two teams named identically, or one of the schedules is going to take precedence and the remaining one is going to look silly.
Look at it from the individual team level:
Here's Burlingame U14 Tier 2: https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/43203/schedules?team=3013978
Here's also Burlingame U14 Tier 2: https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/43201/schedules?team=3013782
Game days are identical - but they are playing all different teams. Either there are two teams named identically, or one of the schedules is going to take precedence and the remaining one is going to look silly.
joelandren
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Mine was shared by club. Yours has no Breakers and Los Gatos. Do I know definitively? No.
RandomSoccerFan
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IIRC, this also happened last year when X2 was first announced by CalNorth. They had created a schedule, but then it stayed blank / no scheduled games / all the way through the season, and there was another gotsport page where the games were actually scheduled properly.
soccerdad247
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Its not surprising, X2 was a disaster and horribly run - games scheduled against teams that didn't exist, teams dropping out, etc. Seems CalNorth trending the same way trying to run another similar league.
Breakers went under from what our club has said, and Los Gatos got full ECNL and sounds like they aren't doing MLS Tier 2 anymore. So I think the schedule with those clubs gone might be more accurate.
RandomSoccerFan
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I thought Breakers went under as well, and yes, Los Gatos now has full ECNL teams playing this fall.
RandomSoccerFan
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RandomSoccerFan
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OK - these previous CalNorth schedules posted above appear to be useless. There have been games played the past few weekends, and the teams all seem to have a suffix of "MLS Next AD". The results can be found in SR, so they are getting a feed somehow, but there is no public link to a page to view standings. If you go to the Standings or Schedules page on the MLS N site itself which shows AD, it appears to still be blank at the moment.
KiloOne
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I see both Homegrown and Academy Division schedules and standings for all age groups and regions on the MLS Next site as of this morning.
RandomSoccerFan
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Huh - that's strange. I just clicked on those same two links again, and saw the exact same blank info:
This is with the latest version of Chrome on a fully-patched PC. It looks like maybe you need to log in or something, it's hard to troubleshoot because it remains blank. But I then tried the same links in the latest version of Firefox:
Still not logged in, and it displays fine here. So the WTF appears to be how their site seems to behave poorly with some browsers.
This is with the latest version of Chrome on a fully-patched PC. It looks like maybe you need to log in or something, it's hard to troubleshoot because it remains blank. But I then tried the same links in the latest version of Firefox:
Still not logged in, and it displays fine here. So the WTF appears to be how their site seems to behave poorly with some browsers.
RandomSoccerFan
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Found this link on another site. Looks like someone has built another interface to the same current MLS schedule/ranking data that is supposed to be displayed on the MLS site. Works for both HG and AD divisions.
KiloOne
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Lot of missing teams in the Southwest for Homegrown on that site. Nice interface, but doesn't differentiate between Flex and League, which is important in Homegrown.Found this link on another site. Looks like someone has built another interface to the same current MLS schedule/ranking data that is supposed to be displayed on the MLS site. Works for both HG and AD divisions.
Happy-john
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Now we have finished the first fall season of MLSN2 of NorCal, how do you all feel about the game quality of the new league? For us, there are at most 5 or 6 relative ‘good’ teams in the league out of 18 teams. 2/3 games are not competitive with big score differences. I really hope strong MLSN2 teams could compete with strong local ECNL/RL teams with much higher game quality and without the insane travels to only play meaningless 10:0 games.
RandomSoccerFan
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I have been looking at this for awhile. If you look at the U15B age group in Norcal, the "new" MLS AD is pretty much no different than NPL, which is pretty much no different from ECNL-RL. It has a very similar level of talent split up into multiple groups who all feel they are better than the others (when none of the 3 leagues are particularly notable, or particularly different from each other). If you can make an MLS HG team affiliated with an academy (like the Quakes), or maybe, a top-ranked ECNL team (like Odyssey, Pateadores, LAFC) - go all in. If not - paying and traveling for any of the pricier secondary/tertiary leagues rather than just playing NPL or even state premier - seems like a waste in terms of money/time/focus. The data clearly shows you're not going to see much better competition. The parents (and kids) are fooling themselves if they think that it is likely that it is a step on the path to greater heights, rather than the end of the road for a youth soccer "career".
Here's MLS AD U15 Norcal:
Here's NPL U15 Norcal (South):
Here are the two RL divisions for U15 in Norcal:
Here's MLS AD U15 Norcal:
Here's NPL U15 Norcal (South):
Here are the two RL divisions for U15 in Norcal:
Happy-john
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Soccer ranking app is accurate enough to gauge the levels of teams. I hope MLSN2 can merge with other leagues since they are going SY now and provide a real promotion/relegation system for all.
RandomSoccerFan
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They've already stated that they never planned to set up two different categories, one for BY and one for SY. Now that essentially everything that matters (other than MLS N HG) has gone SY, I can't see how that plan would change. Seems even easier trying to decide now, than before it was known that almost all of youth soccer switched in unison.
I can't imagine they are setting up a new group just for MLS N HG at this point. The "equivalent" AD team will have ages up to 5 months older, but it won't matter in the least. The HG teams will all continue to filter to the top of all rankings anyway.
I can't imagine they are setting up a new group just for MLS N HG at this point. The "equivalent" AD team will have ages up to 5 months older, but it won't matter in the least. The HG teams will all continue to filter to the top of all rankings anyway.
Thats a lot of detail. What I was able to pull out of it is...
1. The Ranking App will group BY with SY teams together.
2. Expectation is that BY teams will be grouped with the 6 month above SY group. But not 100% on this.
Personally I think it would be in boys ECNLs favor for the ranking app to group BY and SY separately. This way it would be MLSN2 and ECNL + everyone else in the SY grouping. The only ones in the BY grouping would MLSN1.
AlicanteFC
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But MLS Next HG is the only one that matters. ECNL a little, but the others are meaningless.