ECNL RL NorCal

While NorCal ECNL is stronger than it's GA counterpart, I don't really think GA has gotten any weaker with these moves. I can see a ton of player movement from these newly added ECRL clubs. Heck, I can even see some of the weaker ECNL teams losing players to the new options in GA. You might even see some coaching movement as a result as well. I do think adding Odyssey in the CV to NL was a good move. I'm a bit surprised more clubs weren't added to NL given the number on the boys side.

I personally think it's good to have both competing leagues. It keeps everyone on their toes and allows more flexibility for players. I also think the pro/rel stuff that's looming is part of that drive to keep things competitive. Now if only the level of soccer could be better -- that's a whole different thread :)
I heard that SF Elite made the move since ECNL wants a presence in SF. They assume that they'll be promoted in a couple years but SF United is also now in Norcal ECNL RL so the two clubs will have to fight it out. Both seem to be smaller clubs and SF Elite didn't look to be a top GA club so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
I heard that SF Elite made the move since ECNL wants a presence in SF. They assume that they'll be promoted in a couple years but SF United is also now in Norcal ECNL RL so the two clubs will have to fight it out. Both seem to be smaller clubs and SF Elite didn't look to be a top GA club so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Yeah without a doubt. I wonder if many players will check out the Glenns as a result. But yeah, I've always found it odd there wasn't an ECNL team in SF on the girl's side.
 
Yeah without a doubt. I wonder if many players will check out the Glenns as a result. But yeah, I've always found it odd there wasn't an ECNL team in SF on the girl's side.
Players wise, I agree. The top players go to other clubs outside of the city by the high school ages typically. Many challenges in the city especially fields since you have to share with probably 15 others clubs on the public fields?

I'd guess the SF elite recruitable age teams would look around but probably okay with some younger ones where they have talent. Glens has GA but it's a really low level girls program compared to any ECNL/GA club on average. Tryout season will be extra exciting in SF!

My guess is girls ECNL will mirror the boys on number of teams soon. I don't think SF elite/LGU leave GA for ECRL without some kind of handshake that you'll be in ECNL soon.
 
Players wise, I agree. The top players go to other clubs outside of the city by the high school ages typically. Many challenges in the city especially fields since you have to share with probably 15 others clubs on the public fields?

I'd guess the SF elite recruitable age teams would look around but probably okay with some younger ones where they have talent. Glens has GA but it's a really low level girls program compared to any ECNL/GA club on average. Tryout season will be extra exciting in SF!

My guess is girls ECNL will mirror the boys on number of teams soon. I don't think SF elite/LGU leave GA for ECRL without some kind of handshake that you'll be in ECNL soon.

Yeah, I've never understood how SF can have so many clubs. (NorCal has 13 listed)....given how few fields there are, this doesn't seem super tenable.

It doesn't seem like adding these clubs to NL down the road will make the table stronger. I'm curious what the big four think about it. I guess there's not much they can do about it.
 
Players wise, I agree. The top players go to other clubs outside of the city by the high school ages typically. Many challenges in the city especially fields since you have to share with probably 15 others clubs on the public fields?

I'd guess the SF elite recruitable age teams would look around but probably okay with some younger ones where they have talent. Glens has GA but it's a really low level girls program compared to any ECNL/GA club on average. Tryout season will be extra exciting in SF!

My guess is girls ECNL will mirror the boys on number of teams soon. I don't think SF elite/LGU leave GA for ECRL without some kind of handshake that you'll be in ECNL soon.

SF Elite’s decision to leave GA and join ECRL is a risky move. While they may initially be competitive in RL and potentially earn NL promotion, they are likely to struggle, similar to Pleasant Rage and Marin FC in the ECNL NorCal league. With top local talent already gravitating toward MVLA due to proximity, establishing a truly competitive ECNL club in San Francisco will be a significant challenge.

Los Gatos United has many promises, but the first few years in ECRL will be crucial in building momentum. If they recruit and develop their teams well, securing ECNL status, they can further tap into South Bay’s deep talent pool, drawing next level of players from South San Jose, Santa Cruz, Gilroy, and even Monterey. With ECNL accreditation, LG United could start attracting top talent from established GA clubs nearby, such as Almaden and Sporting, further strengthening their roster. The next progression could be pulling elite South Bay players away from MVLA and FC Bay Surf, further solidifying LG United talent pool. Smart move with substantial upside!
 
This ECNL-RL topic and the possibility of promoting to ECNL is going to be fun. I'm going to put my bets on the first clubs to promote to ECNL. Assuming only performance is what can get a club promoted (not taking politics, location, etc into account).

Girls Side: Walnut Creek Surf, Stanislaus, Eastshore Alliance - Dark horse: Folsom Lake Surf

Boys Side: Folsom Lake Surf, Clovis Crossfire, Sheriffs - Dark horse: Walnut Creek Surf
 
SF Elite’s decision to leave GA and join ECRL is a risky move. While they may initially be competitive in RL and potentially earn NL promotion, they are likely to struggle, similar to Pleasant Rage and Marin FC in the ECNL NorCal league. With top local talent already gravitating toward MVLA due to proximity, establishing a truly competitive ECNL club in San Francisco will be a significant challenge.

Los Gatos United has many promises, but the first few years in ECRL will be crucial in building momentum. If they recruit and develop their teams well, securing ECNL status, they can further tap into South Bay’s deep talent pool, drawing next level of players from South San Jose, Santa Cruz, Gilroy, and even Monterey. With ECNL accreditation, LG United could start attracting top talent from established GA clubs nearby, such as Almaden and Sporting, further strengthening their roster. The next progression could be pulling elite South Bay players away from MVLA and FC Bay Surf, further solidifying LG United talent pool. Smart move with substantial upside!

There's no chance LGU will be able to pull players from BA Surf or MVLA (don't forget De Anza). If they did pull players, they'd be the ones not getting rostered for games. Those clubs would have to self-combust for anything beyond that to happen. I personally think LGU is going to lose all of it's better older (2011 on up) players in the near term. If they want to get some exposure, they really can't sit and wait on an ECRL team. Of course I'm not really familiar with the LGU teams. Perhaps not many care about college.
 
GA is NorCal is extremely weak. LaMo is the only player.

Blues FC (Rocklin) have good younger teams but management is so bad, that getting the GA title 18 months ago isn’t preventing U12s from going the ECNL route to either Placer United or San Juan. And at the end of the day, GA is just so weak in NorCal that girls know they have to go ECNL once they get to 11v11.

It’s nice for the southern Central Valley to have an ECNL team with Cal Odyssey but at this point, the girls side is rock bottom. That will likely change cause the area has talent and Clovis Crossfire being GA.

Northern Central Valley has no ECNL options - from Merced to Elk Grove. You’re either driving to Cal Odyssey, San Juan or an East Bay team. Lot of talent in that large area. Ajax in Modesto went GA but they suffer from the same problems Blues FC has.
 
Los Gatos appears to have made the call based on the boys side (ECNL-RL/NPL to ECNL) rather than the girls side (leaving GA to go to ECNL-RL), even though currently - both are objectively similar strength. (boys show 83rd out of 309 for 73rd percentile, while girls show 49th out 194 for 74th percentile). Seems likely this will diverge in a year or two if the ECNL badge helps recruiting more than losing the GA badge hurts recruiting.

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It's barely been half a season, so it's still early, but in just that time so far the boys top team ratings have improved from 73rd percentile to 83rd percentile, while the girls have only slipped slightly, from 74th percentile down to 71st percentile. Let's see what they can do in another 6 months.


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