Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
I guess it would depend on if it conflicts with their Ecnl schedule?
CalSouth National Cup Question (use of ECNL players)
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The Driver
PREMIER
Nationals is rained out so does having that bye still work as an advantage?
SocalSoccerMom
SILVER ELITE
How many players are we talking about here? 1-3 ok I can see but 7-8 I didn't think you can club pass this many players...What happened to the rest of the players on the team? Did they get called up to the ECNL teams?I guess it would depend on if it conflicts with their Ecnl schedule?
SocalSoccerMom
SILVER ELITE
Is this the same Arsenal EGSL team that finished last in Europa East?
Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
Yes, gives players more time to rest, especially if injured. Team's can always scrimmage their sister teams and local teams in the area in the meantime.
Well what do you think?
SocalSoccerMom
SILVER ELITE
Well, I don't know, so I asked. The coach on that team was not Randy Brown, I'm just trying to figure out if that is the right team.
Hello it is RB... not sure why they ever had RP listed. It is RBs team.
Ron had the FC team only.
Soccer123
SILVER ELITE
From last to first. This could be a Cinderella end of the season for the girls.
Sombitch
SILVER ELITE
A player can be carded to a Cal South club and an ECNL club. This is most certainly already happening and been for the past few years.
BUT I think this question is really if Arsenal, Blues, Surf etc ECNl players will be used to play on EGLS teams in National Cup. My guess is yes some will be used.
Sombitch
SILVER ELITE
There is only one SD ECNL club - so you are saying the used ECNL players to play for the third team?
WhiteFenceSurfer
BRONZE
For the record, yes, we used two players from the ECNL team. We lost two players late in the season (one moved and the other had serious surgery) and going into state we had two girls sick and couldn't play. Having said this, we have two keepers on the roster so this left us with one sub. Coach elected to get extras and the only option was ECNL BUT they only played the first two games with us. (our game against RB was our third team with one sub) Not sure what RB's motive was carding 7 total ECNL players. I suspect with this team finishing last in Europa, he was potentially in the same boat as us - lost players (for other reasons than us!
). As a third team, I'm proud of our girls play and passion to compete, although we were a bit outmatched. We held Arsenal scoreless at half but they had too much horsepower late in the second. They got a goal off a corner and the AR called it offside but the CR came over to chat and ended up giving them another corner. They buried it into the net nicely off a header... I will say, they are a good group of girls and played a classy, tactical game! Good luck to them.SocalSoccerMom
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I thought you can only club pass up to 5 players. Rumors are that there were 7 on RBs team. Not sure how this was possible; and if they played Flight 1 during season and have 7 ECNL girls, why not play National Cup.
SocalSoccerMom
SILVER ELITE
Wow, what a karma! To bring ECNL players only to face another team with ECNL players. I would rather our team start and finish the State cup with what we have than bring in outside players, who will/will not be there through the end.For the record, yes, we used two players from the ECNL team. We lost two players late in the season (one moved and the other had serious surgery) and going into state we had two girls sick and couldn't play. Having said this, we have two keepers on the roster so this left us with one sub. Coach elected to get extras and the only option was ECNL BUT they only played the first two games with us. (our game against RB was our third team with one sub) Not sure what RB's motive was carding 7 total ECNL players. I suspect with this team finishing last in Europa, he was potentially in the same boat as us - lost players (for other reasons than us!
bababooey
GOLD
You bring up an intriguing question about a limit on club pass players. So I went to the NC rulebook (http://media.calsouth.com/data/Down.../2017/2017CSNationalCupV17100816.pdf?rev=114F).
- So check out Team Eligibility (section 3.4 - Roster Continuity). It states that the roster must maintain a minimum of 9 players from the league play roster (SCDSL for this team) to the NC roster.
- Now check out section 3.7 (Roster Size). It states that an 03 team can have a tournament roster of 22 total players, but only 18 per game roster.
- Lastly, go to section 3.16.2 (Club Pass). It states that any NC team can club pass players as long as the roster meets the minimum 9 player "continuity of roster" rule.
So, with respects to the Arsenal team in question here, RB had the ability to add 10 ECNL players to this team via the Club Pass rule highlighted above. This assumes that the 12 players from the Fall roster are all still playing on this team and listed on the NC roster.
I am no fan of RB, but I don't believe he has violated any NC rule here.
bababooey
GOLD
For the record, yes, we used two players from the ECNL team. We lost two players late in the season (one moved and the other had serious surgery) and going into state we had two girls sick and couldn't play. Having said this, we have two keepers on the roster so this left us with one sub. Coach elected to get extras and the only option was ECNL BUT they only played the first two games with us. (our game against RB was our third team with one sub) Not sure what RB's motive was carding 7 total ECNL players. I suspect with this team finishing last in Europa, he was potentially in the same boat as us - lost players (for other reasons than us!
Thank you for your honest post. Why not use players from the EGSL team? The EGSL players have a first round bye for NC, so there would not have been a schedule conflict for the players with Presidents Cup and NC for the first few weeks at least.