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dad4 said:
I was talking about the people living in parked trailers. What drug addict can hold down a job well enough to buy an RV?

The vehicle dwellers are your dishwashers and gardeners.

Do you need the extra punctuation to be willing to discuss it?
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As Watfly explained, many are making and selling meth in said RV’s which is also why we see so many RV’s catching fire.

Feel free to cling to whatever petty details you wish. It isn’t going to affect my position or yours.

it is nice that LA’s Advocacy Teams hand out nice clean meth pipes, paraphernalia and needles. Especially when the rains wash several of them into our parking lot and sidewalks.

But building houses sure will solve that. Just ask Newsome, he’s been allocating Billions during his tenure and we’ve seen nothing but growth in the Homeless population. Could his policies like being a sanctuary state be a contributing factor? Maybe his policies on Retail Crime, open air drug use and camping in the sidewalks could have something to do with it.
 
Kicker4Life said:
As Watfly explained, many are making and selling meth in said RV’s which is also why we see so many RV’s catching fire.

Feel free to cling to whatever petty details you wish. It isn’t going to affect my position or yours.

it is nice that LA’s Advocacy Teams hand out nice clean meth pipes, paraphernalia and needles. Especially when the rains wash several of them into our parking lot and sidewalks.

But building houses sure will solve that. Just ask Newsome, he’s been allocating Billions during his tenure and we’ve seen nothing but growth in the Homeless population. Could his policies like being a sanctuary state be a contributing factor? Maybe his policies on Retail Crime, open air drug use and camping in the sidewalks could have something to do with it.
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"many are making and selling meth in said RV’s"? Is this Breaking Bad?
 
dad4 said:
How many people need to be living in their cars before you stop needing quotation marks to refer to the housing crisis?

That’s some serious “callousness“ you are showing to your fellow man.

There are tens of thousands of people living in their cars up here. We don’t need bonus punctuation to realize there is a problem.

I am happy to discuss solutions, and willing to admit that Newsom’s SF policies were naive and useless. But there are more than enough head in the sand folks up here. No need for one more.
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Because we stopped putting blame on people awhile back. Like how we blame cops for black criminals that die because they refuse to comply? It's a person problem. People lose shit when they make bad choices. I'd imagine heroin is amazing based on everything I've heard. Yet there's ONE little reason I don't try it. We no doubt have good people suffering bad situations from no fault of their own, but if you say "fuck off" to your employer... there's a good chance you don't make the mortgage payment. When I bought my last house during the 2008 crunch, and everything was a short sale, the ONE consistency was this: Mercedes SUV on one side of the garage. BMW 7-series on the other. Lots of big screen televisions. Pools, toys galore and not an ounce of common sense among them. Makes me wonder, with Choo Choo Joe creating all those jobs, why this happens.

Libtards helped accelerate this notion of "victimhood" and now you need our tax dollars to provide housing to your voters. How'd that turn out?
 
espola said:
If you wish to have a private conversation with someone, there are ways to do that. However, if you make a statement in public, you should expect responses.
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We never know when you're going to respond. In fairness to you, though, you generally don't respond when asked a direct question.
 
dad4 said:
I was talking about the people living in parked trailers. What drug addict can hold down a job well enough to buy an RV?

The vehicle dwellers are your dishwashers and gardeners.

Do you need the extra punctuation to be willing to discuss it?
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Dishwashers and gardeners... so the illegal aliens you keep telling to come here for all the available jobs nobody wants?

Do you need me to type it in Spanish since they don't speak English?
 
Kicker4Life said:
As Watfly explained, many are making and selling meth in said RV’s which is also why we see so many RV’s catching fire.

Feel free to cling to whatever petty details you wish. It isn’t going to affect my position or yours.

it is nice that LA’s Advocacy Teams hand out nice clean meth pipes, paraphernalia and needles. Especially when the rains wash several of them into our parking lot and sidewalks.

But building houses sure will solve that. Just ask Newsome, he’s been allocating Billions during his tenure and we’ve seen nothing but growth in the Homeless population. Could his policies like being a sanctuary state be a contributing factor? Maybe his policies on Retail Crime, open air drug use and camping in the sidewalks could have something to do with it.
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This is one idea to address the homeless problem that is being proposed by a friend of mine. I say its at least worth a shot.

Sunbreak Ranch – New Beginnings for Homeless People in Transition

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espola said:
"many are making and selling meth in said RV’s"? Is this Breaking Bad?
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call it what you want but it's turned your state into a real shithole in some places. It's nearly impossible to sort through the body count on the street to determine who needs the required medical attention and who is just being an ass because they are allowed to. Funny that you seem to have no empathy for humanity that lives less than you. These are hard issues to deal with, it's even harder in a place like CA that institutionalizes homelessness/drug addiction and some profit from it. Nasty state of affairs. But please stick your nose in this comment....i would recommend volunteering one day down "there"...
 
dad4 said:
Yes. Newsom’s housing policies while in SF were not at all effective.

Back then, he was a typical progressive. Promise people you will help the poor by spending large amounts of SOM, but never actually think too hard about what works and what does not.

His current policy is quite different. It actually tries to attack the cause of the problem. I’d prefer a more conservative set of solutions, but the CA GOP has been as useless as the left on this. Revoking CEQA without changing zoning won’t do jack shit, and any decent conservative economist knows it.
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An example for this is what project?
 
watfly said:
Many addicts have "RV's" or trailers, unemployment, SS and/or they game the system for money. The stench coming from some of these vehicles is unbelievable. Many of the RV's are inoperable or were only operable enough to get to their current location. They're not showing up in 2022 Prevosts.
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^^^ Exactly. They dump their tanks right into the gutter. Trash everywhere. These vehicles aren't moving unless it's by a flatbed tow truck.
One look at google maps will show you where these encampments are at. Hansen Dam. Sepulveda Basin. Santa Fe Dam. Whittier Narrows. Multiple homeless encampments in these areas. 710/105 fwys. FD responds to this area multiple times a day..EVERY DAY for fires getting out of control.
RV camps. Gardena/Compton area: Broadway / Alondra Blvd. Look just North of Alondra on Broadway. Main St / Alondra Blvd. Same here. Look just North of Alondra on Broadway. Foothill Blvd / Brand Blvd in the San Fernando Valley. Look just North of Brand on both sides of the street on Foothill.
These are but a few. "Urban Campers" are everywhere. There's bigger and worse ones. I can give a whole lot more locations for all the naysayers if these aren't enough proof.
From the mouth of Azusa / San Gabriel Canyon down the riverbed until you get to Whittier Narrows off the 605/60 fwys..and beyond..a ton of encampments. Look for the trash piles and the blue tarps. Zoom in. See for yourself. Look just west of the parking lot at the mouth of the canyon.
 
You spend 20 years asking your city council to block new housing. You were successful.

Then, when the RVs show up, you are upset that they don't live in the apartments you prevented.

If you don't like it, look in the mirror. There's the guy who caused the problem.
 
pewpew said:
^^^ Exactly. They dump their tanks right into the gutter. Trash everywhere. These vehicles aren't moving unless it's by a flatbed tow truck.
One look at google maps will show you where these encampments are at. Hansen Dam. Sepulveda Basin. Santa Fe Dam. Whittier Narrows. Multiple homeless encampments in these areas. 710/105 fwys. FD responds to this area multiple times a day..EVERY DAY for fires getting out of control.
RV camps. Gardena/Compton area: Broadway / Alondra Blvd. Look just FiNorth of Alondra on Broadway. Main St / Alondra Blvd. Same here. Look just North of Alondra on Broadway. Foothill Blvd / Brand Blvd in the San Fernando Valley. Look just North of Brand on both sides of the street on Foothill.
These are but a few. "Urban Campers" are everywhere. There's bigger and worse ones. I can give a whole lot more locations for all the naysayers if these aren't enough proof.
From the mouth of Azusa / San Gabriel Canyon down the riverbed until you get to Whittier Narrows off the 605/60 fwys..and beyond..a ton of encampments. Look for the trash piles and the blue tarps. Zoom in. See for yourself. Look just west of the parking lot at the mouth of the canyon.
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Fires are a huge problem. Some of our properties are adjacent to Caltrans or railway easements preferred by homeless and we've had our buildings catch fire a handful of times from homeless encampment fires. Fortunately our buildings don't burn very well. Not uncommon for them to throw their bottles and trash on our properties, on occasion their own feces, when they're not trying to break our security cameras and exterior lights with rocks. Not only have the vagrants dramatically increased in number, they have gotten a lot more aggressive.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Because it’s not a “homeless” problem it is a drug and mental illness problem. As long as it continues to be mislabeled I will use quotes. In the same manner I did with your “vaccine”.

I work n downtown LA and deal with it everyday. From people smoking meth outside my office window, watching drugged out, mentally ill people wandering in and out of traffic attacking people with various objects. Having them scream at the invisible person while standing on the side walk outside my office. Then there is the shit…literal shit. How many times have you left your office and look over to see someone’s bare ass a few feet away from you taking a shit? How many times have you seen families having to walk in the street to get to school because there is an encampment blocking the sidewalk?

I count 5-10 people each day as I drive thru DTLA actively doing drugs in public. How about you?

Run up against friction long enough, callous does develop.

Callousness v Ignorance…which is worse?
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My wife spent 10yrs in DTLA. She finally was able to transfer out to an office closer to home. Everything you said is spot-on. Me and the kids would go have lunch with her on a few rare occasions. They saw it all off 4th/Hill. Lots of people overdosing in doorways. Walking the streets was like walking a minefield of crap bombs. Crazy people everywhere. I'd make my way back to the freeway via Skid Row to always emphasize to the kids what drugs do and the importance of an education and or a good solid job.
 
dad4 said:
You spend 20 years asking your city council to block new housing. You were successful.

Then, when the RVs show up, you are upset that they don't live in the apartments you prevented.

If you don't like it, look in the mirror. There's the guy who caused the problem.
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LOL…..remember when if we didn’t take the shot we were killing grandma? The last low cost housing project in LA came in at an estimated cost of over $700k/1000 sqft Apt. that’s almost 2x average construction cost in the area. Wonder why?

you love to just blame people who call you on your BS as the culprit of the problem. Sorry, but I didn’t authorize camping on the sidewalks, I didn’t declare CA a sanctuary state, I didn’t vote to make retail crime below $1000 a misdemeanor or allow open area drug use. Oh…and Zero Cash bail. We actually voted that down in LA but unfortunately LA elected Gascon (who promised to do for LA what he put in motion in SF….well, he certainly did that didn’t he). What was Gascon’s 1st action in office? To institute Zero cash bail! His 2nd, was to direct his Prosecutors not to prosecute a laundry list of crimes.

In some sense I agree that it is the voters fault. But it’s those who vote in morons like Newsome, Gascon, Bass, ect who have turned this state into dog shit.
During their tenure CA has dropped to 44th in Education, 1st in poverty level, homelessness has skyrocketed, and for the first time in history, there are more people and corporations moving OUT of CA than moving in.

So if it’s ANYONE who needs to look in the mirror is those who voted for these so called leaders.
 
Kicker4Life said:
LOL…..remember when if we didn’t take the shot we were killing grandma? The last low cost housing project in LA came in at an estimated cost of over $700k/1000 sqft Apt. that’s almost 2x average construction cost in the area. Wonder why?

you love to just blame people who call you on your BS as the culprit of the problem. Sorry, but I didn’t authorize camping on the sidewalks, I didn’t declare CA a sanctuary state, I didn’t vote to make retail crime below $1000 a misdemeanor or allow open area drug use. Oh…and Zero Cash bail. We actually voted that down in LA but unfortunately LA elected Gascon (who promised to do for LA what he put in motion in SF….well, he certainly did that didn’t he). What was Gascon’s 1st action in office? To institute Zero cash bail! His 2nd, was to direct his Prosecutors not to prosecute a laundry list of crimes.

In some sense I agree that it is the voters fault. But it’s those who vote in morons like Newsome, Gascon, Bass, ect who have turned this state into dog shit.
During their tenure CA has dropped to 44th in Education, 1st in poverty level, homelessness has skyrocketed, and for the first time in history, there are more people and corporations moving OUT of CA than moving in.

So if it’s ANYONE who needs to look in the mirror is those who voted for these so called leaders.
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We were talking about RVs on the street and apartment construction.

Suddenly, you want to bring up covid vaccines, cash bail, the CA educational system, and George Gascon.

Pick one argument, on topic, and make it. Don’t just vent everything that didn’t come out in your morning dump.
 
dad4 said:
We were talking about RVs on the street and apartment construction.

Suddenly, you want to bring up covid vaccines, cash bail, the CA educational system, and George Gascon.

Pick one argument, on topic, and make it. Don’t just vent everything that didn’t come out in your morning dump.
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If you look over your hedge you may see that it's all linked together. They are symptoms of the disease that has take up residence in CA. But it's cool to be linear behind the fence, especially if you never have to put on the hip waders.
 
espola said:
MTG and Bobo had a public spat on the floor of the House over which of them gets to impeach Joe Biden. "You’ve been nothing but a little bitch" or words to that effect were reported by House members within earshot.

www.thedailybeast.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls Boebert a ‘Little Bitch’ on the House Floor

A feud has been boiling between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert for months. It finally reached a new level on Wednesday.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com
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When your big plan is to build a railroad that traverses 2 oceans, your ass deserves to be impeached.

Are you going to hide from this a 3rd time, Waldo?
 
Happened again said:
But it's cool to be linear behind the fence, especially if you never have to put on the hip waders.
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Related to that concept...

You have these Ds proclaiming their cities to be sanctuary cities. Pure virtue signaling. And when NY as an example gets a few thousand bused up there suddenly they are bitching about the cost and how they cannot afford to deal with it. And yet they advocate open borders and dont care about the cities close to the border that actually have to deal with the consequences of their policies.

Today in CA things are reaching a head where decades or bad policy and making life difficult for the average citizens. The virtue signaling and the laws passed have made things measurably worse.
 
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