Vaccine

espola said:
What does "Canada is happening" mean to you?
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It’s awful. People are getting their vehicles towed for parking illegally.

More proof that Canada has gone over to the dark side. They even made it illegal to blast air horns at 3 am in residential neighborhoods.

At least here in America, I can still put on a Viking helmet and sack the Capitol building.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Follow the money. Easy, right?

I'm concerned about the future of public education - especially in the big cities. They may be losing teachers faster than they lose students and the students they are losing are likely to be higher performers. Neither trend is good for the division we see in the country.
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My pal's wife just quit her teaching job and is taking a sick leave for emotional stress and "I can't teach in this shit anymore." You still have psycho's who want their kid masked and the whole school sprayed down with Lysol every 10 minutes. Then you have crazy parents like me who refuse the jabs. Then you have parents who sit on the fence and pull their kid and into private or super rad charter school. Most single parents have to sent thier kid to crazy school. How on earth could a parent send their little one to any school? My baby is 18 and can do as she please. I would have ripped my mask off already and said, "This is insane. I will not wear a mask."
 
dad4 said:
It’s awful. People are getting their vehicles towed for parking illegally.

More proof that Canada has gone over to the dark side. They even made it illegal to blast air horns at 3 am in residential neighborhoods.

At least here in America, I can still put on a Viking helmet and sack the Capitol building.
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I dunno man....the seizing bank accounts thing was pretty norm busting, Trudeau has the police force out now and neither side (Trudeau's retreat in the polls and the chilly reception from his side of Parliament notwithstanding) seems to be willing to back down. Too early to predict things but you'll recall when BLM started it was just "peaceful protests", at least at first, and the Capitol building was just Trump crying the election had been stolen.
 
dad4 said:
I am quite awake and clear eyed. The anti-vax adults have given us two covid waves at this point. Enough is enough.

The individual right to decline medication does not imply a right to head down to the local bar and spread disease. Someone wants to be unvaccinated at home or outdoors? No problem.

But if that person wants to hang out indoors with large numbers of other people, then they need to respect the health of those other people- even the ones who are on immunosuppressants. Based on what we know so far, that means getting a vaccine.
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Wait, I thought virus mutation gave us additional waves, with another likely coming. I guess we didn't know enough after the initial 2 week lockdown to be conversant on transmission and mutation.

Maybe it was actually people like you who caused "waves". Good thing you aren't in public health. It requires more than mandates. Funny how the very tribe that was anti-vaccine transformed to pro vaccine over night without providing data to explain their miraculous transformation. But keep pointing fingers.
 
what-happened said:
"We aren’t the ones bitching about how badly the children are being treated." - HUSKER DU - 2.17.22
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I spoke to Husker Du type Doc and a few higher ups and they all told me to stop complaining about how the girls were being treated, especially my baby girl. If a coach says to a player, "The more I yell at you, is the more I love you" that would be a yellow card. That could be coach speak, but yelling at 12 and 13 year olds looking to play for your country is wrong. This guy and Espola are the same types of coaches and evaluators of female soccer players. They stopped talking to me. They only use GG to speak to me because. These guys have treated females really bad. I think they got hurt as young boys and have issues with Mother. You guys need a big spanking and a lesson to love kids. Pathetic and why youth soccer got destroyed and toxic in socal. You better obey "The Man" or else. These men hate women and kids.
 
Grace T. said:
I dunno man....the seizing bank accounts thing was pretty norm busting, Trudeau has the police force out now and neither side (Trudeau's retreat in the polls and the chilly reception from his side of Parliament notwithstanding) seems to be willing to back down. Too early to predict things but you'll recall when BLM started it was just "peaceful protests", at least at first, and the Capitol building was just Trump crying the election had been stolen.
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I'm thinking that Canada and the US need to start freezing the accounts of baseball players. The fact that the players are striking is causing untold millions of dollars in damages to local communities. Think of the towns that rely just on spring training not to mention regular season for the bigger cities. These guys are striking because they don't want their already exorbitant salaries capped. Shed me a freaking tear. At least the truckers are fighting for something noble (or what used to be considered noble, before the left became the party of authoritarianism). Of course, that will never happen since the politicians are the biggest jock sniffers of all (see Super Bowl).
 
what-happened said:
Wait, I thought virus mutation gave us additional waves, with another likely coming. I guess we didn't know enough after the initial 2 week lockdown to be conversant on transmission and mutation.

Maybe it was actually people like you who caused "waves". Good thing you aren't in public health. It requires more than mandates. Funny how the very tribe that was anti-vaccine transformed to pro vaccine over night without providing data to explain their miraculous transformation. But keep pointing fingers.
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Your claim is that, beause the mutation had a role in causing the Delta wave, then human actions must not have played a role.

It’s not even a good single cause fallacy. I can grant you the false claim that mutations are the only problem, and point out that the mutation rate is driven by cases. It still comes back to people adopting pro-covid behavior.
 
dad4 said:
Your claim is that, beause the mutation had a role in causing the Delta wave, then human actions must not have played a role.

It’s not even a good single cause fallacy. I can grant you the false claim that mutations are the only problem, and point out that the mutation rate is driven by cases. It still comes back to people adopting pro-covid behavior.
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The Delta wave was started in India. I'm not sure how human actions here played into that other than the first world hoarding vaccines. You can argue human behavior (such as vaccination) can slow the mutation rate, but given triple vaxxed and prior natural immunity people are coming down with omicron (like Prince Charles), it's not going to stop mutations (particularly given the number of zoonotic reserves we now have).
 
crush said:
I spoke to Husker Du type Doc and a few higher ups and they all told me to stop complaining about how the girls were being treated, especially my baby girl. If a coach says to a player, "The more I yell at you, is the more I love you" that would be a yellow card. That could be coach speak, but yelling at 12 and 13 year olds looking to play for your country is wrong. This guy and Espola are the same types of coaches and evaluators of female soccer players. They stopped talking to me. They only use GG to speak to me because. These guys have treated females really bad. I think they got hurt as young boys and have issues with Mother. You guys need a big spanking and a lesson to love kids. Pathetic and why youth soccer got destroyed and toxic in socal. You better obey "The Man" or else. These men hate women and kids.
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You're quite a feminist making your wife and daughter bring in 100% of the family income while you refuse to work.
 
watfly said:
That's what's great about Husker, he always says something to prove our point. "Kids are resilient" is the grasping at straws to support the left's narrative that I mentioned before. Another case of lack of self awareness.

I do hope that kids are resilient and the Covid restrictions just become a vague memory. Unfortunately, for some kids its already too late.


That's a comical rationalization and facts not in evidence. If that were true we wouldn't see parents screaming even louder now to unmask kids, now that adults don't have to wear a mask. I've said many times, mask adults, whatever. I'd happily wear a mask in public indoors if we dropped the mask mandates on kids. The fact that you have to mischaracterize someone else's argument to make your argument more plausible is more evidence of how weak your position is.
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I guess you missed that the “kids are resilient” was me agreeing with you . . . girls will be girls.
 
GoldenGate said:
You're quite a feminist making your wife and daughter bring in 100% of the family income while you refuse to work.
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Wow, we finally meet again. I told you this would all go sideways if you treat little 12 year old girls like you did. Shame on you. I forgive you and so does my wife. My Cheetah is still learning about the reality of how some men treat young women.
 
crush said:
My pal's wife just quit her teaching job and is taking a sick leave for emotional stress and "I can't teach in this shit anymore." You still have psycho's who want their kid masked and the whole school sprayed down with Lysol every 10 minutes. Then you have crazy parents like me who refuse the jabs. Then you have parents who sit on the fence and pull their kid and into private or super rad charter school. Most single parents have to sent thier kid to crazy school. How on earth could a parent send their little one to any school? My baby is 18 and can do as she please. I would have ripped my mask off already and said, "This is insane. I will not wear a mask."
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As the division widens, each side gets more extreme, more authoritarian, and more confrontational.
 
dad4 said:
Your claim is that, beause the mutation had a role in causing the Delta wave, then human actions must not have played a role.

It’s not even a good single cause fallacy. I can grant you the false claim that mutations are the only problem, and point out that the mutation rate is driven by cases. It still comes back to people adopting pro-covid behavior.
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Isn't it funny how you quickly shut down my linear assessment of your statements and claim nuance but immedietedly revert to linear.

There are plenty of reasons for the pandemic waves. There were plenty of tools in the kitbag available to minimize death. There was also plenty of human tribal behavior that become an obstacle to pandemic management. Always takes people dying to drive consensus. Not one specific thing was going to work - novel viruses tend to be difficult to understand/manage. This one in particular is a doozy. One thing is certainly a constant though, $$ made by pharma - EUAs are a thing of beauty.
 
dad4 said:
I am quite awake and clear eyed. The anti-vax adults have given us two covid waves at this point. Enough is enough.

The individual right to decline medication does not imply a right to head down to the local bar and spread disease. Someone wants to be unvaccinated at home or outdoors? No problem.

But if that person wants to hang out indoors with large numbers of other people, then they need to respect the health of those other people- even the ones who are on immunosuppressants. Based on what we know so far, that means getting a vaccine.
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That is pretty selfish of you!! So what makes those that want to get vaccinated more worthy than those that don't want to? Why don't those that don't want to get sick just stay indoors and never go out, that way they will never get sick. Problem solved. It can work both ways
 
Grace T. said:
I dunno man....the seizing bank accounts thing was pretty norm busting, Trudeau has the police force out now and neither side (Trudeau's retreat in the polls and the chilly reception from his side of Parliament notwithstanding) seems to be willing to back down. Too early to predict things but you'll recall when BLM started it was just "peaceful protests", at least at first, and the Capitol building was just Trump crying the election had been stolen.
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Canadians are overwhelmingly in opposition to the infantile actions of a few selfish truckers.
 
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