Vaccine
- Thread starter Multi Sport
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You do realize that you conflate variables like masking and vaccination? The Superbowl had nothing to do with vaccination....though enforcement was reportedly lax to be there you had to be vaxxed or tested....the issue was the masks. Neither is the issue with Sweden the masks....the issue there is the vaccination.
And we always come back to why do you care? People who are at risk and not vaccinated will deal with the consequences.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Hahaha! Still using masks and vaccines in the same breath. Let me remind you that Wilt Chamberlain and my dad combined to score 100 points in a game on 3/2/1962.
Two years and counting. The vax too will have to deal with consequences. My pal sister just died and that is no joke and she was triple vaxxed. I think all ((jab or no jab)) of us are dealing with the consequences of the actions of a few cheaters who got caught and were up to no good. Now that the hold up is up, they will go back to doing what they do best; divide and conquer and divide and war and destroy and evil. We have much more news that will be dripping out so sit back, buckle your seat belt and get ready for a hard landing. Compassion and Grace ((no fun intended)) will be of most importance for anyone to stay on this planet after the real TRUTH comes. Love is a magnet and only love will rule this place. Vengeance is not the way to go but unfortunately, many will fall for that fear.
thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
NO !
STOP IT NOW !
YOU ARE PUSHING DISINFORMATION THAT WILL FURTHER
HARM/KILL HUMANS OF ALL AGES!
The Bradford-Hill criteria and evidence of association between influenza vaccination and ischaemic heart disease - PubMed (nih.gov)
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thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
This individual known as " Espola " on this forum has a sordid past.
He knows it.
Many on here know it.
Many here choose to ignore it.
The TRUTH is always there, it cannot be made it go away.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Is it significant to you that the two leaders that share your "people are incapable of doing the right thing unless forced to do so" are Xi and Putin? It is to me.
Pfft. That ship sailed a long time ago. The politicians never had faith in their own policies and were just doing it as window dressing. Blanket policies were never feasible, except in the PretendLand that some people are living in. Other than maybe the initial months of the pandemic, it was never about "community spread" or "doing the right thing", it was always about political control through fear (aka using cult type techniques). I'll say it again, only cowards would mask children, regardless of their rationalizations for doing so.
Go deeper bro. You're getting warmer and I like that. You love kids and the kids appreciate that, especially the ones born in foster care or worse. We will need to teach the kids that mankind can love and treat others with respect and not as pawns or worse, human you know what. Poor kids were taught to fear so many things in grade school the last three years or so. Love not fear. No compassion for others, no grace for you. We will find out that some people were born into some evil stuff that were forced to do things that would make your hair on your back go up. I told you and a few others on PM what this will come down to. The kids!!! Love you man and keep standing for the kids, for the kids sakes!!!
It’s not just the vaccine. The US per capita death rate in 2020 was higher than Canada’s, and that has nothing to do with vaccine usage.
Put another way, your dad carried the team to victory even when Wilt was out with a knee injury. Maybe he is better at hoops than you thought.
oh you. We can pick time periods and regions all day.
what-happened
GOLD
You just don't give up. The US was/is always destined to have higher mortality rates than peer countries. Doesn't really matter what you do, unless you cut out pepsi, french fries, donuts, joo joo beans, etc.
I admire (kinda) your desire to 100% protect everyone walking the streets in this country. Unfortunately that wasn't never going to be an achievable end state. What we should have done (as most smart health experts have been advocating since this all began) was to focus on the most vulnerable. People
A nuanced approach to public health was thrown out the window years ago, with plenty of blame to go around.
Hüsker Dü
DA
“Reports”? Do tell.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Flawed comparison, just a political axe grinder. Testing density CA vs USA average? And take a peak at US average population density vs CA.
How about Canada which dad 4 was tossing up?
We can make these comparisons and distinguish them all day....it's literally never ending.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Vaccines ought to sue @dad4 for slander for comparing them to masks.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Which is why it is important to make valid comparisons, otherwise it either useless or can be used to drive misinformation. Again, since we see the per 100K so frequently, the questions becomes who are the 100K that are being compared, and is it a meaningful comparison. on this thread I seem to remember a link to an economist who chased their tail for 3000 words or so wrapping their head around the idea that normalization can be used to reveal or it can be used to obscure.
Careful. My Orwellian translator is blinking that "valid" might mean "that I agree with" or that uses the "variables I agree with".
My main purpose was to show that dad4's Canada comparison, like most of them that are done, are ridiculous. If we are talking cases, the world is pretty much over a long enough time horizon doing to wind up in the same place. If we are talking deaths, it's the same with a handful of distinguishing characteristics including vaccine uptake, population age, obesity, and how hard you got hit before vaccines became widely available Everything else is noise.
I could compare CA to low density states in the north of the US. Sound fair?
Perhaps MT, ND, SD, MN, AK, WI, and MI.
I won't be mean and saddle you with solid blue states like WA and ME. They'd ruin your average.