Howard Stern ((EOTL & Cher's mom)) Says Hospitals Should Ban COVID Anti-Vaxxers: ‘You’re Going to Go Home and Die’
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Howard Stern ((EOTL & Cher's mom)) Says Hospitals Should Ban COVID Anti-Vaxxers: ‘You’re Going to Go Home and Die’
Unless one of your fully vaxxed family is extremely elderly or is immunocompromised you clearly don’t understand percentages. Otherwise you would understand that to begin with this illness poised only a .4% risk of death to the population and if you are under 65 that risk was much lower. Then you’d understand that if you are under 65 the vaccines lowered your risk of death and serious illness to that of the flu because vaccines “work”. Then with the omicron you’d understand that the risk of death and serious illness for the vaccinated was lower than the flu, and given the variants it’s inevitable that all of us eventually get it since there’s no way we contain the variants by forced vaccinating the world at once before a new one emerges and containing all the various zoonotic reserves. But yet somehow you’ve only in the last two years, even after vaccines were available, only eaten out twice (and then only outdoors) in the last two years. You don’t understand percentages. You in fact are one of the reasons the emergency continues because (unless you are elderly or immunocompromised or have someone to that effect in your immediate household) you are being driven by fear for two entire years of your life.
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GOLD
Let me guess, you knew the original numbers were false and that immunity would wane. Your Bay Area saviness once again gives you superpowers.
They were marketed as preventers of transmission and providers of immunity. The clinical trials were rushed and some researchers cried foul over the integrity of the data. When talking heads on TV parroted the false effectiveness of the vaccines, pharma companies stood silent, never correcting or adjusting expectations. Did some know about the true value and effectiveness of the vaccine, of course. Now all of a sudden "vaxxers" always knew how good or lack of good the vaccines were going to be. 100% revisionist BS. This is why public health officials are not trusted and why so many peoeple have tuned them out. I highly doubt you were privy. As the data and the science evolved, many pivoted their messaging. Physicians and providers also pivoted their views and disease treatment evolved.
No one is questioning your choices for your family, choices are good.
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GOLD
Stratifying the data and applying it to the real world just wouldn't make sense, right?
what-happened
GOLD
And how many asymptomatic positives have you seen? What are the protocols for it? Do they stay home? Does contact tracing for an asymptomatic case automatically trigger subsequent quarantines?
Fear is the virus. If you live your life as a victim and as the judge, you will live forever in anger, hate, jealousy, pride and a life of judging others as you judge yourself. All these emotions are produced by your fears because you live in fear. I have no fear and that is the beginning of freedom. Fear has everything to do with punishment. That is hell on earth, and those who live in hell 24/7, are afraid of judgement. Who is the judge? Think about that Q today as we live freer everyday. I live free so I live in heaven because their is no judge. I fired his ass long ago. Anyone who still has t in their head is afraid and it's just their own fear and they lash out at others because of their own fake fear. Perfect love drives out fear!!!
Desert Hound
DA
The more we learn about the vaxxes and the virus, the more we find we have been doing all the wrong things.
New data released Wednesday showed that both vaccination and prior infection offered strong protection against infection and hospitalization from Covid-19 during the Delta wave — and that case and hospitalization rates were actually lower among people who had recovered from Covid-19 than among those who had been vaccinated.
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New data released Wednesday showed that both vaccination and prior infection offered strong protection against infection and hospitalization from Covid-19 during the Delta wave — and that case and hospitalization rates were actually lower among people who had recovered from Covid-19 than among those who had been vaccinated.
New data show those who recovered from Covid-19 were less likely than vaccinated to get infected during Delta wave
New data show those who recovered from Covid-19 were less likely than vaccinated people to get infected during the Delta wave. But the data contain caveats that stress the value of vaccination, even with prior infection, experts said.
www.statnews.com
Desert Hound
DA
Reality strikes.
The awareness of it will expand.
Live with it and move on.
apnews.com
The awareness of it will expand.
Live with it and move on.
Europe considers new COVID-19 strategy: Accepting the virus
MADRID (AP) — When the coronavirus pandemic was first declared, Spaniards were ordered to stay home for more than three months.
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Desert Hound
DA
dad talked about continued testing yesterday.
I pointed out the trend will go the other way. Less testing due to cost, limited value, etc.
Well....
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I pointed out the trend will go the other way. Less testing due to cost, limited value, etc.
Well....
Starbucks Drops COVID Vaccine and Testing Requirements for Employees After Supreme Court Ruling
In the announcement, Starbucks' COO John Culver emphasized that the café continues to "believe strongly in the spirit and intent of the mandate"
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GOLD
All car crashes require trauma surgeons? But for the sake of entertainment, I would be more worried about running out of ER nurses than truama surgeons.
His understanding of percentages is just fine.
SCC has had 0.1 percent of its population die from this disease. 0.1% is a lot lower than 0.4%. All the masks, vaccines, and outdoor dinners have done some good. It saved the lives of around 6000 people in our county.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
The idea that "the vaccine confers better immunity than recovering from the virus" never passed the smell test. Of course, I am sure we will hear that "the science changed" if this turns out to be verified.The more we learn about the vaxxes and the virus, the more we find we have been doing all the wrong things.
New data released Wednesday showed that both vaccination and prior infection offered strong protection against infection and hospitalization from Covid-19 during the Delta wave — and that case and hospitalization rates were actually lower among people who had recovered from Covid-19 than among those who had been vaccinated.
New data show those who recovered from Covid-19 were less likely than vaccinated to get infected during Delta wave
New data show those who recovered from Covid-19 were less likely than vaccinated people to get infected during the Delta wave. But the data contain caveats that stress the value of vaccination, even with prior infection, experts said.
You missed the point.dad talked about continued testing yesterday.
I pointed out the trend will go the other way. Less testing due to cost, limited value, etc.
Well....
Starbucks Drops COVID Vaccine and Testing Requirements for Employees After Supreme Court Ruling
In the announcement, Starbucks' COO John Culver emphasized that the café continues to "believe strongly in the spirit and intent of the mandate"
People were arguing that the low infection rate among vaccinated people in SCC can be explained by test avoidance among the vaccinated. But there is mandatory testing here, so we know that vaccinated people are getting tested.
We see positive tests at my kids schools. Maybe 5% of student population so far? They stay home and come back after a week or so. I can’t say how many were fully asymptomatic, and how many were minor. The only severe cases I’ve heard of are unvaccinated folks.
If it’s someone you work closely with, you run an antigen test to know whether you should stay home, too. People are also getting better about not ignoring their colds. It’s become polite to stay home for minor sniffles.
Seems to be working. Cases yesterday were about half of omicron peak.
You can only deny reality for so long. At some point you have to move on. It should have happened in Fall 2020.dad talked about continued testing yesterday.
I pointed out the trend will go the other way. Less testing due to cost, limited value, etc.
Well....
Starbucks Drops COVID Vaccine and Testing Requirements for Employees After Supreme Court Ruling
In the announcement, Starbucks' COO John Culver emphasized that the café continues to "believe strongly in the spirit and intent of the mandate"
You know what vaccinations, data and R values have in common? None of them stop the spread of the virus.
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GOLD
Severe cases within the student population? What do you consider severe? Hospitalized or just a bad head cold? omicron certainly stays higher.
I certainly agree that people should stay home from their place of work if they have cold/flu symptoms. It's not always possible but in your neck of the woods, missing a day or two from work likely won't break a budget.
Antigen tests aren't as sensitive to omicron, for various reasons. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. It's a catch 22 I suppose. The FDA has clearly put out messaging that suggests omicron is not as detectable in antigen tests. At the same time, they are saying take the test but be prepared for false negatives. Quite confusing.
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GOLD
Let's ramp up more conspiracy and direct it towards our newest protector of human society: Big Pharma. Way too many doses left over, boosters driven by scary data = better profit margins. Let's not talk about doses purchased for the U12 crowd that aren't going the way they thought they were going to go. Those doses have to go somewhere and somwhere quick. Emerging data doesn't support mass boosting.
Desert Hound
DA
More reality sinking in.
Try it sometime.
England is set to get rid of essentially all of its COVID-19 restrictions, as was announced by United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday.
Mandatory mask-wearing on public transportation and in stores, guidelines on working from home, as well as vaccine certifications will be ended next week. Johnson said that the rule making individuals prove recent recovery from a coronavirus infection or display a vaccine certificate to attend certain large events will stop, as well.
The Guardian reported, “The prime minister also told the Commons that the legal requirement on people with coronavirus to self-isolate would be allowed to lapse when the regulations expired on 24 March, and that date could be brought forward.”
Try it sometime.
England is set to get rid of essentially all of its COVID-19 restrictions, as was announced by United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday.
Mandatory mask-wearing on public transportation and in stores, guidelines on working from home, as well as vaccine certifications will be ended next week. Johnson said that the rule making individuals prove recent recovery from a coronavirus infection or display a vaccine certificate to attend certain large events will stop, as well.
The Guardian reported, “The prime minister also told the Commons that the legal requirement on people with coronavirus to self-isolate would be allowed to lapse when the regulations expired on 24 March, and that date could be brought forward.”
baldref
GOLD
It does take the pressure off. And everyone who doesn't hide in their basement will get it at some point.
baldref
GOLD
I got it a bit worse than a cold. fever and body aches and such. And yes, I am vaccinated.