Looks like the internet is working in Mom’s basement again….
Vaccine
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Desert Hound
DA
It is a combo of....
Starting to accept reality. As in this is endemic and what they have been proposing and doing has caused great harm.
And...
Politics. As more and more come around to the reality of we just have to live with it, they will not put up with the restrictions the Ds want to inflict. They are already likely in for a bloodbath this election cycle, but if they keep up doing stuff that doesn't work, the election cycle will be much worse
And...
The press largely carries water for the Ds, so suddenly they too are saying and doing things that just not long ago they derided.
Clark county pausing......
www.fox5vegas.com
Clark County schools to take 5 day 'pause' due to staffing shortages, COVID surge
LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -- The Clark County School District announced they will close all schools on Friday and Tuesday due to staffing shortages.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
If they would have reported it this way from the beginning, they could actually show the difference you speak to now. Changing their preferred metric midstream looks like a cover for their chosen cause, and people are suspicious. They made their bed. Also, the use of the excess death graph would go a long way to make the point - from the beginning.
Yes, it's an outlier but in the last two weeks I'm convinced the bottom has dropped out.....the Congress split makes it even more eyepopping
www.nationalreview.com
Quinnipiac Has Biden at 33 Percent Approval | National Review
It’s an outlier, yes, but goodness is today’s Quinnipiac poll a disaster for President Biden.
www.nationalreview.com
Desert Hound
DA
False.
You can and do have similar infection rates between age groups. The difference in deaths skew very heavily to the old and people with serious health issues.
We know you can have 1000 teens infected with covid and it is unlikely any would die. On the other hand in the plus 75 age group if you have 1k infected, they would likely have many deaths.
Desert Hound
DA
And yet Fauci and other "leaders" said this wasn't the case. The noble lie I guess. Much like in the same vein they have lied about surgical masks working. We have private emails from Fauci to a friend telling them surgical masks were worthless. But of course gov has to show it does something...so masking up became a thing.
Remember when the leaders and the press ridiculed those who said the virus was likely man made?
Leading British and US scientists thought it was likely that Covid accidentally leaked from a laboratory but were concerned that further debate would harm science in China, emails show.
An email from Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, on February 2 2020 said that “a likely explanation” was that Covid had rapidly evolved from a Sars-like virus inside human tissue in a low-security lab.
The email, to Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins of the US National Institutes of Health, went on to say that such evolution may have “accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans”.
But a leading scientist told Sir Jeremy that “further debate would do unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular”. Dr Collins, the former director of the US National Institutes of Health, warned it could damage “international harmony”.
Viscount Ridley, co-author of Viral: the search for the origin of Covid, said: “These emails show a lamentable lack of openness and transparency among Western scientists who appear to have been more interested in shutting down a hypothesis they thought was very plausible, for political reasons.”
In the emails, Sir Jeremy said that other scientists also believed the virus could not have evolved naturally. One such scientist was Professor Mike Farzan, of Scripps Research, the expert who discovered how the original Sars virus binds to human cells.
Scientists were particularly concerned by a part of Covid-19 called the furin cleavage site, a section of the spike protein which helps it enter cells and makes it so infectious to humans.
Summarising Professor Farzan’s concerns in an email, Sir Jeremy said: “He is bothered by the furin site and has a hard time (to) explain that as an event outside the lab, though there are possible ways in nature but highly unlikely.
“I think this becomes a question of how do you put all this together, whether you believe in this series of coincidences, what you know of the lab in Wuhan, how much could be in nature – accidental release or natural event? I am 70:30 or 60:40.”
Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab - but feared debate could hurt ‘international harmony’
Emails to Dr Anthony Fauci show ‘likely’ explanation identified at start of coronavirus pandemic, but there were worries about saying so
www.telegraph.co.uk
Remember when the leaders and the press ridiculed those who said the virus was likely man made?
Leading British and US scientists thought it was likely that Covid accidentally leaked from a laboratory but were concerned that further debate would harm science in China, emails show.
An email from Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, on February 2 2020 said that “a likely explanation” was that Covid had rapidly evolved from a Sars-like virus inside human tissue in a low-security lab.
The email, to Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins of the US National Institutes of Health, went on to say that such evolution may have “accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans”.
But a leading scientist told Sir Jeremy that “further debate would do unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular”. Dr Collins, the former director of the US National Institutes of Health, warned it could damage “international harmony”.
Viscount Ridley, co-author of Viral: the search for the origin of Covid, said: “These emails show a lamentable lack of openness and transparency among Western scientists who appear to have been more interested in shutting down a hypothesis they thought was very plausible, for political reasons.”
In the emails, Sir Jeremy said that other scientists also believed the virus could not have evolved naturally. One such scientist was Professor Mike Farzan, of Scripps Research, the expert who discovered how the original Sars virus binds to human cells.
Scientists were particularly concerned by a part of Covid-19 called the furin cleavage site, a section of the spike protein which helps it enter cells and makes it so infectious to humans.
Summarising Professor Farzan’s concerns in an email, Sir Jeremy said: “He is bothered by the furin site and has a hard time (to) explain that as an event outside the lab, though there are possible ways in nature but highly unlikely.
“I think this becomes a question of how do you put all this together, whether you believe in this series of coincidences, what you know of the lab in Wuhan, how much could be in nature – accidental release or natural event? I am 70:30 or 60:40.”
Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab - but feared debate could hurt ‘international harmony’
Emails to Dr Anthony Fauci show ‘likely’ explanation identified at start of coronavirus pandemic, but there were worries about saying so
Desert Hound
DA
What else has our government inflicted upon is in the don Quijote like quest to eliminate the virus?
Only inflation which hurts those that can least afford it.
The latest inflation data, released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, showed prices in December rose to a 40-year high, climbing 7.0 percent compared with the year before.
Cost/benefit.
Ever take those kind of classes dad?
Only inflation which hurts those that can least afford it.
The latest inflation data, released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, showed prices in December rose to a 40-year high, climbing 7.0 percent compared with the year before.
Cost/benefit.
Ever take those kind of classes dad?
Desert Hound
DA
Was it a guilty conscience that prompted Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky to tell the world on “Good Morning America” on Jan. 7 that 75 percent of COVID-19 deaths occurred among those with four or more comorbidities?
If it wasn’t, it should have been.
Four or more? What would the percentage have been for those with a mere two or three comorbidities? Eighty-five? Ninety-five? Ninety-eight?
It couldn’t be more obvious that COVID-19 was a serious danger most of all to those who were very sick in the first place. The obese also had concerns, although that is rarely mentioned because not politically correct. And, alas, sometimes the recently vaccinated.
For that, we all had to be injected, masked up, locked down, and isolated for two years.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/guilt...ets-the-covid-cat-out-of-the-bag_4207206.html
If it wasn’t, it should have been.
Four or more? What would the percentage have been for those with a mere two or three comorbidities? Eighty-five? Ninety-five? Ninety-eight?
It couldn’t be more obvious that COVID-19 was a serious danger most of all to those who were very sick in the first place. The obese also had concerns, although that is rarely mentioned because not politically correct. And, alas, sometimes the recently vaccinated.
For that, we all had to be injected, masked up, locked down, and isolated for two years.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/guilt...ets-the-covid-cat-out-of-the-bag_4207206.html
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Fortunately, we had "good journalists" to ferret out the truth. Damn, what a cluster fuck for journalism and the scientific community. For all the whining I hear about the end of democracy coming in the US, it's the end of journalism that is the issue right now. Way too many lapdogs to these lying politicians masquerading as Scientists.And yet Fauci and other "leaders" said this wasn't the case. The noble lie I guess. Much like in the same vein they have lied about surgical masks working. We have private emails from Fauci to a friend telling them surgical masks were worthless. But of course gov has to show it does something...so masking up became a thing.
Remember when the leaders and the press ridiculed those who said the virus was likely man made?
Leading British and US scientists thought it was likely that Covid accidentally leaked from a laboratory but were concerned that further debate would harm science in China, emails show.
An email from Sir Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust, on February 2 2020 said that “a likely explanation” was that Covid had rapidly evolved from a Sars-like virus inside human tissue in a low-security lab.
The email, to Dr Anthony Fauci and Dr Francis Collins of the US National Institutes of Health, went on to say that such evolution may have “accidentally created a virus primed for rapid transmission between humans”.
But a leading scientist told Sir Jeremy that “further debate would do unnecessary harm to science in general and science in China in particular”. Dr Collins, the former director of the US National Institutes of Health, warned it could damage “international harmony”.
Viscount Ridley, co-author of Viral: the search for the origin of Covid, said: “These emails show a lamentable lack of openness and transparency among Western scientists who appear to have been more interested in shutting down a hypothesis they thought was very plausible, for political reasons.”
In the emails, Sir Jeremy said that other scientists also believed the virus could not have evolved naturally. One such scientist was Professor Mike Farzan, of Scripps Research, the expert who discovered how the original Sars virus binds to human cells.
Scientists were particularly concerned by a part of Covid-19 called the furin cleavage site, a section of the spike protein which helps it enter cells and makes it so infectious to humans.
Summarising Professor Farzan’s concerns in an email, Sir Jeremy said: “He is bothered by the furin site and has a hard time (to) explain that as an event outside the lab, though there are possible ways in nature but highly unlikely.
“I think this becomes a question of how do you put all this together, whether you believe in this series of coincidences, what you know of the lab in Wuhan, how much could be in nature – accidental release or natural event? I am 70:30 or 60:40.”
Scientists believed Covid leaked from Wuhan lab - but feared debate could hurt ‘international harmony’
Emails to Dr Anthony Fauci show ‘likely’ explanation identified at start of coronavirus pandemic, but there were worries about saying so
www.telegraph.co.uk
False?
Positive covid tests, by age group, are about 10-30 times as high today as they were back in the summer of 2020.
You’re seeing more “deaths with covid“ today because you have 10-30 times as many “people with covid.”
But, back when you raised the issue, the numbers were too small to matter.
The kind of class that explains that you get inflation when you mail everyone thousand dollar checks?What else has our government inflicted upon is in the don Quijote like quest to eliminate the virus?
Only inflation which hurts those that can least afford it.
The latest inflation data, released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, showed prices in December rose to a 40-year high, climbing 7.0 percent compared with the year before.
Cost/benefit.
Ever take those kind of classes dad?
Yes. I’m familiar with the concept. I agree with you on it.
what-happened
GOLD
Yes...and? You normally see more deaths with: flu, c-virus, cold, etc this time of the year anyway. With that said, transmisability right now is beyond control. You are not going to get here there from here. Covid zero is not an option, some have tried. Besides, now you are likley to be cared for at a facility by someone who is positve but asymptomatic. Imagine how that's going to play out.
Let's work on: early treatment, boosting those with risk, rehiring nurses/staff. While we are at it, maybe discuss how nurses and such are leaving for more profitable ventures within the industry.
Seasonal Flu range… ok. That was about where I thought you were at.
Most are not on board with the couple of additional years that would take. My guess is compliance fatigue to mitigation peaks in April/May around the two year anniversary of ‘Flatten the curve’ and after the omicron wave de-stigmatizes the ‘unclean’ view of those who fall ill even when compliant, vaccinated and boosted.
So the skiing part of my trip your OK with, but the conference part with 200 people indoors mostly maskless but vaccinated is inappropriate?
I can tell you that the business world has moved on from Covid. Its not just a matter of necessity its a matter of reality.
Have you even returned to in-person work since March 2020?
what-happened
GOLD
Actuallyl, all of this is quite ludicrous. Study out of CA indicates hospital stays are 3 days or less for someone admitted with little O. I would sarcastically say the stay was only worth 1 day because you checked then you had to check out. That's less days than influenza stay data suggests. The absurdity right now is at an all time high. Vaccinating healthy people against little O is perplexing.
By the way, the likley way to go IF you want to vaccinate your child is to vaccinate with just one dose. Seems to be an emerging thought out of many offices. If you decide to do 2 shots, espially for older kids, space out beyond 4 months for dose #2. Again, what exactly are you vaccinating against? If your child is healthy? don't know.
That's not what's driving inflation. The checks are already through the system already and you could argue they were a necessary stimulus when the economy was beginning to stall out. Right now inflation is primarily being driven by staples, even in the pricing chart that's been posted. The main culprits were the amount of the government spend, the labor shock, the supply shock (given disruptions to certain providers), and the shift from services to consumer goods. Some of this was baked in and unavoidable. A lot of it is due to the policies that the government has pursued whether it be the huge spend, quarantine procedures, the uncertainties surrounding schools, etc.
Is economics another thing that you are learning by doing?
Seriously what's up with all the footballers and heart problems. Now with Coulbaly? Is it the vaxx, COVID, a data speck we didn't realize before COVID or is there some kind of doping/drugs going around the football community that we don't know about???? I'd think it's a problem that FiFa now needs to urgently get to the bottom of. I remember there being some issues in basketball early on in the pandemic but have there been others?
www.infobae.com
Four footballers killed by heart attacks over Christmas week intensifies expert attention
The deaths of the Croatian Cacic (23 years old), the Omani Al-Raqadi (29), the Egyptian Amin (23) and the Algerian Loukar (30) occur amid the echoes of the sudden retirement of Sergio Agüero
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