Vaccine

dad4 said:
Can we discuss things without going off on tangents? We start talking about the difference between individual and population scale protections. The next paragraph, you’re discussing the fact that the mayor of SF is a self-absorbed twit. Ok. She’s a twit. Can we stay on topic?

As I said, you have it backwards.

A 50% reduction to transmission doesn’t mean much to an individual suffering repeated exposure over a prolonged period. Eventually, you get unlucky.

A 50% reduction to transmission for a population is the difference between a disease that goes nowhere and a disease which doubles every 2 weeks.

More simply, masks are minorly effective on an individual scale, but reasonable effective on a population scale.

What you do with that information is up to you.
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You math guys always mess up the assumptions. Again it’s why they don’t trust you with the big decisions. Just because you have a50% (which is laughable…no one has found that) individual basis does not mean it scales to a population basis. The micro is actually an incidence count. The MACRO IS FOR THE VERY REASON YOU OUTLINE: repeated exposures and (the variable you ALWAYS miss time and time again…little pun) time. It’s called the scaling problem in economics. There’s also the imperfections curve (that as you scale little errors creep in like people not wearing masks properly). You’ve just disproven your own beliefs, you don’t even realize it, and because of your blind faith you don’t even see it

you are like mr Pitt staring at the 3D painting right now.
 
dad4 said:
Ugh. 75% attack rate.

High transmission among vax, high transmission among previously infected, and high hospitalization rate among the young.

Hope it doesn't hold up as new data comes in.
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Mutations tend to skew towards less dangerous, but not always. I don't think anyone is suprised that we have a mutation that is more transmissable, is better at evading immunity, but appears to be less severe. Jury is still out on severity and the U5 data is troubling, especially if deaths follow.

In this part of the world, where NGOs are very effective at executing mass public health initiatives, we've given them little to no support. Africa presents many logistical issues and are always a step behind, needing assistance across the spectrum. Simple things like syringe availablity, storage capacity, etc. Don't worry, SC county will weather a potential omicron outbreak just fine, as will most of CA.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Who?Where?Everyone I know took precautions and lived their lives.
Have you seen this personally or is this a hunch, a guess or something you were told?
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* Who?
Just about every person with a ( D ) behind there name.

* Where?
America

* Everyone I know took precautions and lived their lives.
You live on the internet, doesn't count.

* Have you seen this personally or is this a hunch, a guess or something you were told?
Spit out the Blue pill and go outside.
 
dad4 said:
Can we discuss things without going off on tangents? We start talking about the difference between individual and population scale protections. The next paragraph, you’re discussing the fact that the mayor of SF is a self-absorbed twit. Ok. She’s a twit. Can we stay on topic?

As I said, you have it backwards.

A 50% reduction to transmission doesn’t mean much to an individual suffering repeated exposure over a prolonged period. Eventually, you get unlucky.

A 50% reduction to transmission for a population is the difference between a disease that goes nowhere and a disease which doubles every 2 weeks.

More simply, masks are minorly effective on an individual scale, but reasonable effective on a population scale.

What you do with that information is up to you.
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I'm sure you're not a Dr.
What's worrying is you think so.
 
Take this with a grain of salt: To all those who said no to the pressure to take the jab to be liked by others and safe face and said, "yes" to losing your lively hood over saying, "no" cheers to you!!!
 
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WOW......There is going to be a Huge awakening in 6 - 12 months of people who realize
they've been Jim Jones Koolaid duped by the Fauci " Kill Shot ".

Below is an updated ( Dec 3rd, 2021 ) link by a Dr Coleman who is ever increasing
the list of individuals adversely affected/Killed by the 1,2,3 or more Covid Jabs.

Look at the increase in Feild Sports players having serious heart conditions
while playing, everyone had the " Jab ".

This is beyond sad anymore, it's just plain EVIL and GRUESOME.

UPDATED: How Many People Are the Vaccines Killing? | Dr Vernon Coleman
 
thirteenknots said:
WOW......There is going to be a Huge awakening in 6 - 12 months of people who realize
they've been Jim Jones Koolaid duped by the Fauci " Kill Shot ".

Below is an updated ( Dec 3rd, 2021 ) link by a Dr Coleman who is ever increasing
the list of individuals adversely affected/Killed by the 1,2,3 or more Covid Jabs.

Look at the increase in Feild Sports players having serious heart conditions
while playing, everyone had the " Jab ".

This is beyond sad anymore, it's just plain EVIL and GRUESOME.

UPDATED: How Many People Are the Vaccines Killing? | Dr Vernon Coleman
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I took down my satire pic. This is not something to take lightly anymore. The desperation of these people to get people to take a shot is crazy and I would wait until more facts come out until you do any more injections. I'm a light hearted guy and make satire to talk about taboo subjects and subjects no one dare talk about. It takes a Scorpio man to deal with these Psychopaths who become killers. I'm not going to make anymore jokes about this and no more funny and goofy memes. Were past being cute & funny. This is hitting close to home and friends. I just got off the phone with a pal who works with someone who died, "unknown cause at this time." Yes he got all the jabs but no one wants to admit the Elephant in the room. Last year, it would be a Covid 19 death 100%. BTW, take the following "DELTA" & "OMICROM" and you spell, "Media Control." This is 100% worse then the Jim Jones Kool Aid.
 
crush said:
I took down my satire pic. This is not something to take lightly anymore. The desperation of these people to get people to take a shot is crazy and I would wait until more facts come out until you do any more injections. I'm a light hearted guy and make satire to talk about taboo subjects and subjects no one dare talk about. It takes a Scorpio man to deal with these Psychopaths who become killers. I'm not going to make anymore jokes about this and no more funny and goofy memes. Were past being cute & funny. This is hitting close to home and friends. I just got off the phone with a pal who works with someone who died, "unknown cause at this time." Yes he got all the jabs but no one wants to admit the Elephant in the room. Last year, it would be a Covid 19 death 100%. BTW, take the following "DELTA" & "OMICROM" and you spell, "Media Control." This is 100% worse then the Jim Jones Kool Aid.
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I've realized how bad this was/and now is for a long long while.
Many people have hated on me for telling the TRUTH, and now
some of those same are coming back around rather sheepishly.
I welcome them back no matter what.
The propaganda on this " Agenda " is really hard to convey to
certain individuals.
The amount of EVIL that has surfaced in society recently is Truely
disturbing.



For some it's quite hard to realize they've sold their.....

For :

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In exchange for :


TRUTH and FREEDOM
 
espola said:
Handwaving does not overcome a denial of basic biology.

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I have no dog in the hunt whether the study is right or wrong. I just found it fascinating. To pull a dad4, I didn’t know you had epidemiological chops. They must given your other wisdom here be formidible to be so opining on the biological processes. I look forward to your treatise on why the theory is so obviously wrong. Make sure to send it to Japan asap “Salute, don corleone!”
 
Grace T. said:
I have no dog in the hunt whether the study is right or wrong. I just found it fascinating. To pull a dad4, I didn’t know you had epidemiological chops. They must given your other wisdom here be formidible to be so opining on the biological processes. I look forward to your treatise on why the theory is so obviously wrong. Make sure to send it to Japan asap “Salute, don corleone!”
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Just more handwaving. Referring back to your previous mistakes and then disavowing them is not a valid argument.

You don't need to be an epidemiologist to understand basic biology.
 
espola said:
Just more handwaving. Referring back to your previous mistakes and then disavowing them is not a valid argument.

You don't need to be an epidemiologist to understand basic biology.
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Your arguments have degenerated to a handful of pithy phrases ranging from the classic “nonsense” to “handwaiving” to “strawman” and “gaslighting”. The best part is you don’t understand most of them.

yeah yeah yeah…I know: “I’m smart…I can do things…It’s not like I’m dumb…I’m smart”
 
Grace T. said:
Your arguments have degenerated to a handful of pithy phrases ranging from the classic “nonsense” to “handwaiving” to “strawman” and “gaslighting”. The best part is you don’t understand most of them.

yeah yeah yeah…I know: “I’m smart…I can do things…It’s not like I’m dumb…I’m smart”
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Usually, I ignore your posts full of scattered conclusions with no backup facts. Occasionally, I see something so egregious that I can't let it pass without comment.
 
espola said:
Usually, I ignore your posts full of scattered conclusions with no backup facts. Occasionally, I see something so egregious that I can't let it pass without comment.
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Your comedy is one of the reasons we all come here. In any case my post was backed up. Days ago. As usual you couldn’t follow along and I have no dog in the hunt for the veracity of that theory.
 
E.U. chief calls for throwing out Nuremberg Code

Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favor of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.
 
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