LA County Revising Sports Guidelines on Tuesday 8/24 - per LA Times

Co Co County youth sports guidelines applicable regardless of vaccination status (emphasis added). Soccer is in the high risk category and transmission rates are high. Therefore, vaccination and weekly testing to prevent the spread of COVID-19 off the field, including locker rooms, transportation, and travel is required for club soccer in Co Co County. See guidelines below.

Youth Sports & Activities
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We can reduce the spread of COVID-19 in our community by creating safer environments for all who participate in sports and other youth activities. The requirements and recommendations in this guidance apply to all school based and non-school based extracurricular youth activities including sports, band, chorus, and clubs, regardless of people’s vaccination status.

Safety recommendations:
Masks are required indoors for all participants, coaches, personnel, and spectators.
Masks are strongly recommended outdoors for all participants, coaches, personnel, and spectators.
COVID-19 vaccination is strongly recommended for all participants who are old enough to be vaccinated, as well as coaches, staff, and volunteers.
Limit high-risk sports and extracurricular activities to fully vaccinated youth when transmission is high. High-risk sports include but not limited to basketball, boxing, American football, futbol (indoor soccer), ice hockey, martial arts with sparring, cheer, water polo, wrestling and partner dance, racquetball, squash, kickball and volleyball. High-risk activities involve singing, shouting, and playing wind instruments.
Regular testing of unvaccinated participants and staff, including volunteers, in high-risk activities.
Testing types and frequency:
Once a week if using a PCR test
Twice a week if using a rapid antigen test
Do not accept home / self-testing results.
Hold high-risk sports and extracurricular activities outdoors, including cheer, stunt, drill team, choir, singing, drama, dance, and playing wind instruments.
Prevent the spread of COVID-19 off the field, including in locker rooms, transportation, and travel.
 
MacDre said:
Coo Coo County youth sports guidelines applicable regardless of vaccination status (emphasis added). Soccer is in the high risk category and transmission rates are high. Therefore, vaccination and weekly testing to prevent the spread of COVID-19 off the field, including locker rooms, transportation, and travel is required for club soccer in Co Co County. See guidelines below.

Youth Sports & Activities
Haga clic para ver información sobre los deportes juveniles y actividades

We can reduce the spread of COVID-19 in our community by creating safer environments for all who participate in sports and other youth activities. The requirements and recommendations in this guidance apply to all school based and non-school based extracurricular youth activities including sports, band, chorus, and clubs, regardless of people’s vaccination status.

Safety recommendations:
Masks are required indoors for all participants, coaches, personnel, and spectators.
Masks are strongly recommended outdoors for all participants, coaches, personnel, and spectators.
COVID-19 vaccination is strongly recommended for all participants who are old enough to be vaccinated, as well as coaches, staff, and volunteers.
Limit high-risk sports and extracurricular activities to fully vaccinated youth when transmission is high. High-risk sports include but not limited to basketball, boxing, American football, futbol (indoor soccer), ice hockey, martial arts with sparring, cheer, water polo, wrestling and partner dance, racquetball, squash, kickball and volleyball. High-risk activities involve singing, shouting, and playing wind instruments.
Regular testing of unvaccinated participants and staff, including volunteers, in high-risk activities.
Testing types and frequency:
Once a week if using a PCR test
Twice a week if using a rapid antigen test
Do not accept home / self-testing results.
Hold high-risk sports and extracurricular activities outdoors, including cheer, stunt, drill team, choir, singing, drama, dance, and playing wind instruments.
Prevent the spread of COVID-19 off the field, including in locker rooms, transportation, and travel.
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Coo Coo County
 
crush said:
Coo Coo County
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Looks to me like co co county is trying to follow CDPH guidelines for schools so, more counties may follow:

16. School-Based Extracurricular Activities

The requirements and recommendations in this guidance also apply to all extracurricular activities that are operated or supervised by schools, and all activities that occur on a school site, whether or not they occur during school hours, including, but not limited to, sports, band, chorus, and clubs. Masks are required for all persons while playing all indoor sports, unless wearing a mask during play has been determined to pose a choking hazard by a well-recognized health authority, such as the American Academy of Pediatrics.[1]

For (1) the playing of musical instruments that cannot be done with a face covering (e.g., wind instruments); or (2) when wearing a mask during play poses a choking hazard, at least one of the following options is required:

a. Conduct these activities outdoors;

b. Use modified face coverings and bell coverings when playing wind and brass instruments, and maintain 6 feet of physical distancing;

c. Perform at least weekly screening testing with either PCR testing (1:1 or pooled PCR) or antigen testing of all individuals, including those who are fully vaccinated.


Schools must be in compliance with the required weekly testing no later than September 27, 2021.
 
MacDre said:
I think this is what you’re looking for:
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Actually, I was interested in studies that supported the claim that "Soccer is in the high risk category and transmission rates are high." Are there any studies that indicate this? Also, as I argued long ago that whatever the risk of catching the virus is from playing soccer it needs to be compared to the risk of the activities those children participate in if they weren't playing soccer. Now, much more so than at the beginning of the pandemic, kids are mixing without masks.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Actually, I was interested in studies that supported the claim that "Soccer is in the high risk category and transmission rates are high." Are there any studies that indicate this? Also, as I argued long ago that whatever the risk of catching the virus is from playing soccer it needs to be compared to the risk of the activities those children participate in if they weren't playing soccer. Now, much more so than at the beginning of the pandemic, kids are mixing without masks.
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Got it. Let me do some digging to see what I can find out. I’ll let you know when I know.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Actually, I was interested in studies that supported the claim that "Soccer is in the high risk category and transmission rates are high." Are there any studies that indicate this? Also, as I argued long ago that whatever the risk of catching the virus is from playing soccer it needs to be compared to the risk of the activities those children participate in if they weren't playing soccer. Now, much more so than at the beginning of the pandemic, kids are mixing without masks.
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There are some risks but it's small, only studies I have seen are one from Surf inc. and another one from the Midwest saying the risks are very small.

One thing that surprise me recently is two college teams from up North both where out/ games cancelled the same week due to COVID-19 protocols and they happen to play each other and in the same round robin tournament the week before. A third team in that tournaments was out Friday on protocol. These teams are getting tested weekly and between their Monday tests and Thur, fri, or Saturday games things came up. Only takes one player I suppose and don't know the details but dang , due to respect for the programs, players please don't ask which universities.
 
MacDre said:
Got it. Let me do some digging to see what I can find out. I’ll let you know when I know.
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Thanks. I wasn't really asking you to do so. That should have been done for you. My concern is that there is a claim made but no obvious support. I would think they'd link to the research that indicates soccer is a "high risk" activity and that the activities the children would be involved with if they were prohibited from playing soccer are a lower risk.
 
lafalafa said:
There are some risks but it's small, only studies I have seen are one from Surf inc. and another one from the Midwest saying the risks are very small.

One thing that surprise me recently is two college teams from up North both where out/ games cancelled the same week due to COVID-19 protocols and they happen to play each other and in the same round robin tournament the week before. A third team in that tournaments was out Friday on protocol. These teams are getting tested weekly and between their Monday tests and Thur, fri, or Saturday games things came up. Only takes one player I suppose and don't know the details but dang , due to respect for the programs, players please don't ask which universities.
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It's silliness and counterproductive that we worry about being identified as catching a virus - as if there is some shame in it. This mentality likely contributes to community spread as people are incented NOT to tell anyone or ask someone to take care of things like shopping when they are sick because it will be a "tell" that they have the virus. Anyway, I'll play along here but please don't look back at any previous posts on this topic as I heard a college team played a game wearing masks - the opponent did not. I hope no one figures out who it was otherwise that team will need to tattoo a scarlet letter "C" on their foreheads.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
It's silliness and counterproductive that we worry about being identified as catching a virus - as if there is some shame in it. This mentality likely contributes to community spread as people are incented NOT to tell anyone or ask someone to take care of things like shopping when they are sick because it will be a "tell" that they have the virus. Anyway, I'll play along here but please don't look back at any previous posts on this topic as I heard a college team played a game wearing masks - the opponent did not. I hope no one figures out who it was otherwise that team will need to tattoo a scarlet letter "C" on their foreheads.
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Anti-vaxxers are such victims.

The team that played with masks was Cal. None of the players died or was harmed by wearing a mask, despite all of those studies showing that elite college athletes will die exercising in a mask. Perhaps you're raising your child to lack such self-confidence and self-esteem that wearing a mask during one soccer game will shame her for life, but I can assure you none of those young women are nearly as soft as you worry about for yours. Was it overly cautious to wear masks? Maybe, but you can't even answer that with any degree of certainty since you have no idea who played, let alone how many of those kids had tested positive, or when, or how many lived with a teammate who was positive. You also don't know whether the opponent had to parade through an airport and get on a plane after the game. No, you don't know shit other than you think wearing a mask is an inconvenience and apparently that your daughter can't handle it emotionally, so therefore no team should ever wear masks under any circumstances. Are you one of those anti-semitic anti-vaxxers who thinks it is all a slippery slope and, before you know it, one team wearing masks for one game will result in all you anti-vaxxers lining up for the gas chamber? You are sounding very much like one of those people who believe in Jewish space lasers starting wildfires in CA forests that weren't properly raked.
 
GoldenGate said:
Anti-vaxxers are such victims.

The team that played with masks was Cal. None of the players died or was harmed by wearing a mask, despite all of those studies showing that elite college athletes will die exercising in a mask. Perhaps you're raising your child to lack such self-confidence and self-esteem that wearing a mask during one soccer game will shame her for life, but I can assure you none of those young women are nearly as soft as you worry about for yours. Was it overly cautious to wear masks? Maybe, but you can't even answer that with any degree of certainty since you have no idea who played, let alone how many of those kids had tested positive, or when, or how many lived with a teammate who was positive. You also don't know whether the opponent had to parade through an airport and get on a plane after the game. No, you don't know shit other than you think wearing a mask is an inconvenience and apparently that your daughter can't handle it emotionally, so therefore no team should ever wear masks under any circumstances. Are you one of those anti-semitic anti-vaxxers who thinks it is all a slippery slope and, before you know it, one team wearing masks for one game will result in all you anti-vaxxers lining up for the gas chamber? You are sounding very much like one of those people who believe in Jewish space lasers starting wildfires in CA forests that weren't properly raked.
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Did something happen to your cheerios this morning?
 
what-happened said:
Did something happen to your cheerios this morning?
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EOTL had a long weekend watching the grand kids. I had the best weekend in a long time. Body surfing was epic. I actually had tourist come to me asking me if I was pro. I got one wave that was insane.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
It's silliness and counterproductive that we worry about being identified as catching a virus - as if there is some shame in it. This mentality likely contributes to community spread as people are incented NOT to tell anyone or ask someone to take care of things like shopping when they are sick because it will be a "tell" that they have the virus. Anyway, I'll play along here but please don't look back at any previous posts on this topic as I heard a college team played a game wearing masks - the opponent did not. I hope no one figures out who it was otherwise that team will need to tattoo a scarlet letter "C" on their foreheads.
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I'm not sure what your talking about, privacy can be a legal and or a moral choice.

People that want to can figure things out...games that get cancelled are public knowledge.

The reason they might have been cancelled can be more private. The Universities are not advertising or disclosing to the GP when Covid-19 protocols force a change of schedule or cancellation.

What would you have them do differently that's legal in California?
 
lafalafa said:
I'm not sure what your talking about, privacy can be a legal and or a moral choice.

People that want to can figure things out...games that get cancelled are public knowledge.

The reason they might have been cancelled can be more private. The Universities are not advertising or disclosing to the GP when Covid-19 protocols force a change of schedule or cancellation.

What would you have them do differently that's legal in California?
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He would prefer that no one ever take any precautions to reduce the spread of Covid because non-conference women's soccer games are just too important. He is not interested in facts, just that his daughter is too emotionally fragile to wear a mask.

BTW, what a strange coincidence that so many kids on a college team with 39 players got Covid at the same time that they had to cancel two games before the infamous "maskgame-gate". We know the players didn't give to each other in practice or in the classroom, however, because the anti-mask anti-vaxxers tell us that never happens. So stupid to make them wear masks during a game knowing they all got Covid randomly and independently outside of practices and classes. I also hear that the other teams were really upset Cal didn't just let their Covid positive kids loose and play the games without telling them they were Covid positive. It's not like Jerry Smith is pushing 80 or anything, or any of the players have neighbors, teachers, coaches, or family over 65 or with medical conditions that make them high risk.

Covid is all a hoax anyway. They are all dying from motorcycle accidents and gunshot wounds.
 
GoldenGate said:
Anti-vaxxers are such victims.

The team that played with masks was Cal. None of the players died or was harmed by wearing a mask, despite all of those studies showing that elite college athletes will die exercising in a mask. Perhaps you're raising your child to lack such self-confidence and self-esteem that wearing a mask during one soccer game will shame her for life, but I can assure you none of those young women are nearly as soft as you worry about for yours. Was it overly cautious to wear masks? Maybe, but you can't even answer that with any degree of certainty since you have no idea who played, let alone how many of those kids had tested positive, or when, or how many lived with a teammate who was positive. You also don't know whether the opponent had to parade through an airport and get on a plane after the game. No, you don't know shit other than you think wearing a mask is an inconvenience and apparently that your daughter can't handle it emotionally, so therefore no team should ever wear masks under any circumstances. Are you one of those anti-semitic anti-vaxxers who thinks it is all a slippery slope and, before you know it, one team wearing masks for one game will result in all you anti-vaxxers lining up for the gas chamber? You are sounding very much like one of those people who believe in Jewish space lasers starting wildfires in CA forests that weren't properly raked.
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CAL cancelled there against Santa Clara because they said they had multiple cases due to Covid. That was 100% false because they had enough players to play the game. CAL didn't want to play because they had certain players out making it easy to say due to Covid we have to cancel.
 
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