futboldad1
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Rule 2.2.1 confirms what I said above...... finally concluded this and can now get back to Cards versus Ole Miss grill prep
DMCV Sharks Girls Director
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Rule 2.2.1 confirms what I said above...... finally concluded this and can now get back to Cards versus Ole Miss grill prep
Hey Lala, futbol dad 1 is on top of his information and where I go to get the scoop. He is rarely wrong and the go to for the latest on ECNL.
What I mean is that as a club you treat both ECNL and ECRL the same by evaluating the teams played each week and allocate the players needed to win. If you're a super club this means the week your ECNL team is playing a poor club you shift all your best players to ECRL. Or if you get ahead in the ECNL standings you start playing top ECNL players in ECRL games to get both teams to nationals.
Heres another flip say a poor club wasnt doing well in ECNL but was ok in ECRL. Theres now incentive to give up on ECNL and just put your best in ECRL.
Above is what I mean by with a single pool why run to leagues?
17-1 scores will not be uncommon in the future if what your saying happens and I think it will. This sucks!!! My dd old Blues 03/04 team was the end of staying on the same team for 8 years. TB did it right but he pissed off parents at the end of each year when their dd was cut. He was blamed for not being a good developer of players and just a hell of a recruiter. MOO, I think he was right. Kids get burned out for all sorts of reasons in sports. To tell a kid and their mama bear and papa bear that as long as you pay to play, work hard, stay out of trouble, get excellent grades and have high scores on SAT you will get what you want, is not true ganas competition from my perch, moo moo moo!!! I want true competition and in the real world, players get cut just like companies usually whack the bottom 20% of sales force because.
From the FAQ
The opposite is not true for non ECNL players.
For ECNL players the team they registered to intially count as a taking up a roster spot. If they play from another team in the club they don't count as a taking up a additional roster spot, yes we agree on that.
However, in reality if you really had 60 players for two teams, ~ half won't be playing each week and the players and parents won't be happy or put up with that too long. Not to mention the registration fees, you would need a another league to play those players in and the dual roster is not within ECNL thus your taking up roster spots in both those leagues since you can't play ECNL without being on a roster that count toward the totals of 30 per team ant way you slice it.
Nobody is going to bother to shuffle a large of players each week to somehow can some muster up some sort of advantage. A few player perhaps just like every year or those playing up but if clubs abuse the new rules they will be changed likely so much to do about nothing and we will see.
Your statement about nobody is going to shuffle players around each week doesn't make sense. Surf has already stated that they're moving to pool play. Working from the pool on a weekly basis + trying to define the best player combo to make the win is exactly what they intend to do.
The only piece that isn't clear is if clubs will sacrifice ECNL performance to boost ECRL when needed. But why wouldn't you if a couple of ECNL games are "in the bag" and the end goal is to always win. (Maybe you wouldn't want to risk your top team losing to a poor top team.)
Let's see if they actually do that and how it might work out. Seen it attempted several times with reserve teams but have yet to see it work out successfully. What ends up happening is both teams and the reserve or 2nd team suffers, players and parents get pissed, some jump ship and the whole thing is a cluster and then it's back to normal sooner or later.
Having a different lineup with different players each week normally doesn't make for a happy group of players who count on, rely, and pull for each other. Maybe surf can make everyone happy but I will believed it when I see it.
This is ludicrous. Injuries happen frequently when you have a mismatch in talent on the pitch. A player is too slow to stop the more talented player and comes in late on a tackle, etc. This is why HS soccer injuries are so prevelent.
And, go tell a top player at a top club that they are playing a B league game this week and see how that works for you.
Culture and camaraderie matter if you want to compete at a high level and have fun doing it. This is supposed to be fun afterall. Moving players around is inconvenient and not much fun for the players and families.
Soccergirl
BRONZE
A little late to respond, but anybody who knows MW knows how extremly competative and proffesional he is. His players work hard for him and he can devlop the hell out of them. Albion lost the best thing they had going on the girls side. The 09 and 2010 team followed and it looks like 2008 is close behind, the first G08 Albion player just left for sharks and I am sure more Albion 2008s are sure to follow along with other players from other clubs. My gut is Albion becomes a flight 2 club for the girls division and Sharks takes off. It is a good thing for girls soccer in San Diego, giving players 3 solid options for ECNL. Power move by Sharks and MW. Love it.
WestOfFive
SILVER
We left last week and are heading over to play for SM.
Good to hear they are building for the future. I felt horrible for the 10 girls who showed up to play for the u18/19 team. The 11th didn’t show until 15 min into the game.
futboldad1
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that's just sad especially for the girls who care.....what a mess......I know scores can get crooked in a hurry with such good opponents in this league but no older ECNL team should be losing 9-0 unless their goalie gets sent off in the first 20 minutes.......this isn't a summer showcase where teams may still be feeling vacation vibes.....0 points and a negative 20 goal differential only 3 games into league AND somehow short handed already is no bueno Sharks........
I tip my hat to their Keeper…..she played with a ton of heart despite the pressure she was clearly under.
Honestly, I tip my hat to all 11 who gutted that game out.
My DD played with some of the young women on that roster, and I would imagine that they fought until the final whistle. Much respect to all who continue to fight and compete.
futboldad1
PREMIER
1000%......if only the coaching staff cared as much to both coach up and compile proper rosters.....here's hoping these kids get better support their next games.....
No excuse to have an 11 player roster on the second or third game of the season. Club is poorly run.
Harsh folks. Let's all give the girls credit for showing up. My pal dd was on a U18/19 team that played girl down. Some girls went on recruiting trips, some were injured and some said no mas and just quit mid season. Gees you guys, cut these girls some mercy. I wish the Sharks players 100% the best and this MW coach, good luck sir.
Fixed that for you. The winds of change are a blowin.
I wish I could relay how poorly things were run before Mike was brought on as the girls DOC.
What sucks is that everyone knew what was going on but there was nothing they could do if they pressed for success.
Personally I blame the Board for allowing losing to become the clubs culture. People in specific leadership positions should have been removed from service years ago.
On a positive note things are changing very fast at Sharks and Surf has pissed off enough people that theres going to be opportunities.