USWNT Olympic roster announced

LASTMAN14 said:
Decent article that touches upon comments already posted on this thread. Guess they read our posts.:D
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How did the USWNT fall short of Olympic gold? Rating the many theories

Why did the USWNT struggle at the Olympics? Not even the players and staff seem to know. We've rounded up the main theories and graded their impact.
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Good article, but sort of odd reasoning.

They discount the "too old" theory. Then they go on to say "too much rotation"- as though the heavy rotation were not a response to the age of the players.
 
dad4 said:
Good article, but sort of odd reasoning.

They discount the "too old" theory. Then they go on to say "too much rotation"- as though the heavy rotation were not a response to the age of the players.
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The article says it’s just theories that floated around. The biggest point is that Andonovski was not sure why the team performed below expectation. I’m calling BS.
 
Yours in futbol said:
The question is .. how could Canada have possibly won the Gold when its team is infested with wokie wokicity woke-ness? Reading through the observations in this thread and the strategic futbol analysis by our former President, it just doesn't add up! :p
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The Swedish team, in contrast, looked like they could have been recruited from a single family reunion.
 
dad4 said:
Good article, but sort of odd reasoning.

They discount the "too old" theory. Then they go on to say "too much rotation"- as though the heavy rotation were not a response to the age of the players.
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Writer is from the Guardian.. wouldn't dare write anything bad about her darlings.
 
dad4 said:
Good article, but sort of odd reasoning.

They discount the "too old" theory. Then they go on to say "too much rotation"- as though the heavy rotation were not a response to the age of the players.
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Also she gives Complacency a consideration but gives a zero for politics. I don't care what you think of the protests, the fact they made a effort to protest meant their focus wasn't 100% on soccer. That's a distraction to the goal at hand. John Carlos and Tommie Smith at least waited until their competition was over.
 
watfly said:
Also she gives Complacency a consideration but gives a zero for politics. I don't care what you think of the protests, the fact they made a effort to protest meant their focus wasn't 100% on soccer. That's a distraction to the goal at hand. John Carlos and Tommie Smith at least waited until their competition was over.
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what did Tommy Smith say?
 
To me this just proves that we really didn’t care about the Olympics, we wanted to give the “girls” a farewell tour. A Gold would have just been an exclamation point to the end of a few careers.

Give up the protest, woke BS and just call it want it is. The rest is all just partisan spin.

The reality…our 2 losses came to the Gold and Silver medal teams. We’ve lost 2 out of 49 games…….
 
SoccerLocker said:
Canada wins gold without scoring 1 goal from open play in the final 2 games, and 6 goals total in 6 games. Maybe the Olympic schedule (6 games in 18 days) rewards a bunker and counter style?

In any event, congrats to Canada!
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Best PK'ers in the World!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I hope Sinclair calls it quits while on top. Canada has its own house cleaning to do. I was surprised they beat USA. Utterly shocked they defeated Sweden. Just wow.
 
watfly said:
He didn't need to say much, he was the first athlete to break 20 seconds in the 200. 53 years later and his time would have put him 4th in this week's Olympic race. That's insane.
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Got it. Yes impressive. Especially when athletes and training methods are at an all time high. For whatever reason I thought you meant this TS. And that he made a comment about the women’s game.:D My fault.
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watfly said:
Also she gives Complacency a consideration but gives a zero for politics. I don't care what you think of the protests, the fact they made a effort to protest meant their focus wasn't 100% on soccer. That's a distraction to the goal at hand. John Carlos and Tommie Smith at least waited until their competition was over.
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The WNT won two WCs protesting for civil rights and it had no impact then, just as it did not at the Olympics. They got bronze for the same reason Alyson Felix did, which is that age eventually catches up to even the greatest athletes in the history of their respective sports. Or is Alyson Felix also a 35 year old uppity woman who would have won gold in the 400m if only she hasn't been distracted protesting against gender inequality?

Your statement about Carlos and Smith is also inaccurate. They were founding members of the Olympic Project for Human Rights before the '68 Games and publicly advocated for its boycott. When that didn't happen, they made clear in advance they would stage a protest if they won medals. They didn't wait until they won medals to protest, you only think that because of your ignorance. Honestly, it is is pretty offensive to use this kind of revisionist history and Carlos and Smith in particular, both of whom have fully supported kneeling, to rationalize your opposition to things they hold so dearly.

Funny story. In 1906, Irishman Peter O'Conner participated in the Olympics despite British and Olympic committee refusing to recognize Ireland as a separate entity. When he won silver (surely he would have won gold if he'd just been 100% focused on being a complacent little British citizen right?), the Olympic committee raised the British flag at the ceremony. He then climbed the flag pole and started waving the Irish flag around in protest. I guarantee every racist and sexist here considers Pete O's actions to be heroic, despite being an uppity Olympian supporting a cause that resulted in rioting and an insurrection that ultimately led to thousands of deaths. Why is that? Why is Pete O', a white guy who disrespects the flag a hero, but a few women who kneel (and not even at the Olympics or even in support of insurrection) are despicable traitors? It is because of things people don't want to admit about themselves.
 
GoldenGate said:
The WNT won two WCs protesting for civil rights and it had no impact then, just as it did not at the Olympics. They got bronze for the same reason Alyson Felix did, which is that age eventually catches up to even the greatest athletes in the history of their respective sports. Or is Alyson Felix also a 35 year old uppity woman who would have won gold in the 400m if only she hasn't been distracted protesting against gender inequality?

Your statement about Carlos and Smith is also inaccurate. They were founding members of the Olympic Project for Human Rights before the '68 Games and publicly advocated for its boycott. When that didn't happen, they made clear in advance they would stage a protest if they won medals. They didn't wait until they won medals to protest, you only think that because of your ignorance. Honestly, it is is pretty offensive to use this kind of revisionist history and Carlos and Smith in particular, both of whom have fully supported kneeling, to rationalize your opposition to things they hold so dearly.

Funny story. In 1906, Irishman Peter O'Conner participated in the Olympics despite British and Olympic committee refusing to recognize Ireland as a separate entity. When he won silver (surely he would have won gold if he'd just been 100% focused on being a complacent little British citizen right?), the Olympic committee raised the British flag at the ceremony. He then climbed the flag pole and started waving the Irish flag around in protest. I guarantee every racist and sexist here considers Pete O's actions to be heroic, despite being an uppity Olympian supporting a cause that resulted in rioting and an insurrection that ultimately led to thousands of deaths. Why is that? Why is Pete O', a white guy who disrespects the flag a hero, but a few women who kneel (and not even at the Olympics or even in support of insurrection) are despicable traitors? It is because of things people don't want to admit about themselves.
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Nice strawman argument in regards to Allyson Felix and nice attempt to mischaracterize my argument to serve your narrative. What an amazing outcome for Allyson. For me its one of the biggest story of the Games, unfortunately so is the Men's 4x100 failure to pass the stick...again.

I'm well aware of Carlos and Smith's substantive efforts prior to the Olympics in regards to human rights. I would also think an expert like you on Carlos and Smith would know that the raised fist was a spontaneous act according to their own accounts, after the event was complete. The fact that they were previously involved in human rights is irrelevant and is not comparable to Rapinoe's kneeling before the game.

It's either your lack of reading comprehension or your desire to promote a narrative, but I never said they lost because they knelt. I said that their kneeling was a sign of Complacency, i.e. lack of focus. I couldn't careless what she was protesting, she could have been protesting against the abuse of puppies, I'd still have the same opinion. I happen to agree with you that age was likely a factor, but I also think there were other contributing factors as the article outlined. So no, they didn't lose because of their politics, but a lack of focus certainly didn't help their performance.
 
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