Where is Andres Deza

Nope. Scouting Socal for USWNT. Not clear on age group. Most likely U18, U19 maybe U20. Will be announced later Spring or early summer. He won't leave Norcal. Continue at Bay Area where he has good support to take weeks off for camps and international trips.
 
justmythoughts said:
Nope. Scouting Socal for USWNT. Not clear on age group. Most likely U18, U19 maybe U20. Will be announced later Spring or early summer. He won't leave Norcal. Continue at Bay Area where he has good support to take weeks off for camps and international trips.
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This sounds more likely. 310 says he does not give out rumor mill but it might just be that, a rumor that spread.......
 
Regardless if Deza leaves or not, his club is losing top players at all age groups, including youngers, which will make it very difficult for him to continue producing National Champion type teams. When he lost the support of the Earthquakes, he also lost a huge part of his recruiting ability. EQ is our only professional soccer team in the Bay Area, therefore all the top players wanted to be associated with his program. Now, with his new club, FC Bay Area, which is pretty much Barcelona Bay Area with him at the helm, is nothing more than just another club.
The older players will stay, especially if they are committed to college. I think the age group that really has a lot of thinking to do is the 07's and 06's, as they are a talented group at FC Bay Area, but will play much inferior competition in the GA League week in and week out. On the contrary, the ECNL clubs 06 and 07 teams are absolutely the top teams in NorCal for their age.
In conclusion, whether Deza stays or leaves, he no longer has the bully pulpit on his side and his younger teams will fall apart (if not already). He will never have the pull he once had, as he went all in with GDA and that blew up. Simply put, he gambled and lost. In a couple of years, after his 04's and 05's are gone, he will be non-relevant, of he doesn't leave before that of course.
 
Anon9 said:
Regardless if Deza leaves or not, his club is losing top players at all age groups, including youngers, which will make it very difficult for him to continue producing National Champion type teams. When he lost the support of the Earthquakes, he also lost a huge part of his recruiting ability. EQ is our only professional soccer team in the Bay Area, therefore all the top players wanted to be associated with his program. Now, with his new club, FC Bay Area, which is pretty much Barcelona Bay Area with him at the helm, is nothing more than just another club.
The older players will stay, especially if they are committed to college. I think the age group that really has a lot of thinking to do is the 07's and 06's, as they are a talented group at FC Bay Area, but will play much inferior competition in the GA League week in and week out. On the contrary, the ECNL clubs 06 and 07 teams are absolutely the top teams in NorCal for their age.
In conclusion, whether Deza stays or leaves, he no longer has the bully pulpit on his side and his younger teams will fall apart (if not already). He will never have the pull he once had, as he went all in with GDA and that blew up. Simply put, he gambled and lost. In a couple of years, after his 04's and 05's are gone, he will be non-relevant, of he doesn't leave before that of course.
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I'd disagree with your assertion that losing the Earthquakes' support is much of an issue. The two obstacles BA has for recruiting are 1) They are not in ECNL, and 2) Do people believe Deza is going to be around going forward? Having those two things will enable him to "have the pull he once had" in terms of recruiting. He still has the reputation he always had in terms of training and connections. The association with the Earthquakes was not that significant. From the inside, there was the appearance that some (many?) in the organization were not supportive of the girls' side. It was enough for me to decide our family will not attend another Earthquakes game.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
I'd disagree with your assertion that losing the Earthquakes' support is much of an issue. The two obstacles BA has for recruiting are 1) They are not in ECNL, and 2) Do people believe Deza is going to be around going forward? Having those two things will enable him to "have the pull he once had" in terms of recruiting. He still has the reputation he always had in terms of training and connections. The association with the Earthquakes was not that significant. From the inside, there was the appearance that some (many?) in the organization were not supportive of the girls' side. It was enough for me to decide our family will not attend another Earthquakes game.
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The 2 points that you made are a consequence of the GDA demise. Which in combination with losing the Quakes patch have made him a non-factor for top players in the younger age groups.
 
Anon9 said:
The 2 points that you made are a consequence of the GDA demise. Which in combination with losing the Quakes patch have made him a non-factor for top players in the younger age groups.
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Yes, but you didn't say it was the GDA demise, which, BTW, wasn't why the Earthquakes stopped supporting the girls. It was money. You stated, "When he lost the support of the Earthquakes, he also lost a huge part of his recruiting ability." My point is that he would have still had trouble recruiting if his teams were still with the Earthquakes, but not in the ECNL. It is possible that the loss of the Earthquakes' support made it difficult to compensate him at his previous level leading to him not being around as much. Maybe that contributed to my second point. However, I was primarily addressing "He will never have the pull he once had". Give him control of a club that is in ECNL where parents believe he will be leading training and he'll have the pull he has always had.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Yes, but you didn't say it was the GDA demise, which, BTW, wasn't why the Earthquakes stopped supporting the girls. It was money. You stated, "When he lost the support of the Earthquakes, he also lost a huge part of his recruiting ability." My point is that he would have still had trouble recruiting if his teams were still with the Earthquakes, but not in the ECNL. It is possible that the loss of the Earthquakes' support made it difficult to compensate him at his previous level leading to him not being around as much. Maybe that contributed to my second point. However, I was primarily addressing "He will never have the pull he once had". Give him control of a club that is in ECNL where parents believe he will be leading training and he'll have the pull he has always had.
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ECNL "control" isn't handed out like candy.
 
Anon9 said:
The 2 points that you made are a consequence of the GDA demise. Which in combination with losing the Quakes patch have made him a non-factor for top players in the younger age groups.
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I do think it's relevent as well to bring up the fact he took the #1 Force team and left mid season and walked away from a Natty opportunity. It opened up other opportunities for teams like Pac North and my dd team. My dd got the equalizer against Real CO and the rest is history. For the record, if I I was a coach shooting for the U13 Natty, I would have told the Lakers I need to wait until after the season before I take the whole team over to EQs. That is still one I scratch my head over. Why the freaking rush to bolt mid season?
 
Anon9 said:
You can say the same for at least 15 trainers in Northern California.
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His daughter is going to play or has already started to play professionally in Spain. That may have something to do with what he chooses to do. He may also want to spend the last year with the '04 group that won the National Title. I have no specific knowledge. I'd also guess that if he wants to lead an ECNL program, he'll have opportunities to do so. Time will tell.

Are you saying there are at least 15 trainers in NorCal with credentials comparable to Deza's? That sounds like a thread that will get a lot of soccer-related responses. Start the thread, and state your case. It will beat talking about COVID.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
His daughter is going to play or has already started to play professionally in Spain. That may have something to do with what he chooses to do. He may also want to spend the last year with the '04 group that won the National Title. I have no specific knowledge. I'd also guess that if he wants to lead an ECNL program, he'll have opportunities to do so. Time will tell.

Are you saying there are at least 15 trainers in NorCal with credentials comparable to Deza's? That sounds like a thread that will get a lot of soccer-related responses. Start the thread, and state your case. It will beat talking about COVID.
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04' Natty? When was that? Or are you saying that he was smart and had his top 04s play up with his 03s to win the National Title?
 
No offense @crush but you don't know NorCal. There are good coaches up here. You only hear about Deza because he had the platform with the GDA to make noise. Gary Ireland, Albertin Montoya, Shaun Tsakiris, Hugo Perez, Troy Dayak, Jeff Baicher, Omar Cervantes, Juan Porras, Mohamed, and so many others that if were given the opportunity to run an ECNL program, would build great programs.
 
Anon9 said:
No offense @crush but you don't know NorCal. There are good coaches up here. You only hear about Deza because he had the platform with the GDA to make noise. Gary Ireland, Albertin Montoya, Shaun Tsakiris, Hugo Perez, Troy Dayak, Jeff Baicher, Omar Cervantes, Juan Porras, Mohamed, and so many others that if were given the opportunity to run an ECNL program, would build great programs.
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No offense taken bro. I really dont know. I'm just poking and bored. MVLA and other clubs have awesome coaches I hear too. Deza just seemed to get all the recognition because of the winning.
 
Anon9 said:
No offense @crush but you don't know NorCal. There are good coaches up here. You only hear about Deza because he had the platform with the GDA to make noise. Gary Ireland, Albertin Montoya, Shaun Tsakiris, Hugo Perez, Troy Dayak, Jeff Baicher, Omar Cervantes, Juan Porras, Mohamed, and so many others that if were given the opportunity to run an ECNL program, would build great programs.
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Why does ECNL matter if Deza has YNT and college contacts? I would think Deza’ network is more important than what letter league his team is in. I’ve heard good things about the above mentioned coaches but I only have a little experience with Mohamed who came off to me as an ass. But, I heard that he’s committed to his kids if they are willing to do the work AND he has YNT and college contacts despite not ever being involved with ECNL and having Mustang ECNL in close proximity.

I think Deza is a better recruiter than Mo, so if Mo can stay relevant without ECNL why can’t Deza?
 
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