What's happening at Cal South?

There is nothing to agree or disagree on. If your goat is not challenged on a daily basis, she will not be a goat.
Wow, that is hard to here. You know what, you just might be right. Is it possible for Temecula to have a competitive team if all the Goats stayed local and all agreed to ball on a goat only team? Let's say one club and one coach has tryouts ((or tells some by watching them play their on the team no mater what)) and only carries 17 with 2 GK. Is it possible or do the goats leave and drive over Ortega Hwy or up to Silverlakes or down to Del Mar where the big clubs are. Thanks for sharing
 
There is nothing to agree or disagree on. If your goat is not challenged on a daily basis, she will not be a goat.
Agree 80%.

The catch is most teams have more than one player who is clearly the best, if you ask parents.

No need to seek out a new challenge if mom and dad are the only one who see a goat.
 
Wow, that is hard to here. You know what, you just might be right. Is it possible for Temecula to have a competitive team if all the Goats stayed local and all agreed to ball on a goat only team? Let's say one club and one coach has tryouts ((or tells some by watching them play their on the team no mater what)) and only carries 17 with 2 GK. Is it possible or do the goats leave and drive over Ortega Hwy or up to Silverlakes or down to Del Mar where the big clubs are. Thanks for sharing
Actually it has nothing to do with club or a coach. If goats stay together it doesn't matter. You most likely heard of Breakaway team or Shamrocks from MV?
 
Actually it has nothing to do with club or a coach. If goats stay together it doesn't matter. You most likely heard of Breakaway team or Shamrocks from MV?
Breakaway was #1 I heard. I think I messed up after the age change. I should have stayed and had her play up with the first GDA season that had playoffs. My goat developed baby goats who matured all the while my goat didnt have to try as hard because so many were baby 04s and baby 05s. We got played by that liar down south. I think he and I need to chat. It's all comin back. it's all coming back to me now. A total trip I got played like that. I totally see it now.

Music helps the soul heal!!!

 
Eagle, thank you for helping me see the errors of my ways. I told my goat I should have intervene with her second decision ((46, it was still her call)) and had her stay. I took the bait and switch big time. Me and that Doc need to chat. I have so many questions still not answered.
 
Eagle, thank you for helping me see the errors of my ways. I told my goat I should have intervene with her second decision ((46, it was still her call)) and had her stay. I took the bait and switch big time. Me and that Doc need to chat. I have so many questions still not answered.
don't look back bro, look forward
 
don't look back bro, look forward
Thank you again. My wife keeps saying that to me. I know 46 says I have HPD and maybe I do. What is it for someone who keeps kicking himself over and over for listening to that punk? I tried forgiving and I do, but I dont forget and that's the hard part. I see others getting all they want at the buffet and I see myself outside looking in and hoping one of the cool dads will throw a steak in the trash so I can enjoy what it's like to eat like a king. Satire aside, you sir have helped me.
 
There are already a handful of San Diego clubs associated with SCDSL. There are also SCDSL teams in the Temecula/Murrietta area, which was the northern frontier of Presidio a few years back.

So if you had to guess, would SCDSL strategy be trying to get San Diego teams to leave Presidio on a club-by-club basis? Gradually building up the number of San Diego teams in SCDSL, so maybe there aren't enough for a purely San Diego SCDSL league right away but they add more teams over the next few years. Or is SCDSL making a play to get the whole Presidio to leave Cal South together in the near future?
 
So if you had to guess, would SCDSL strategy be trying to get San Diego teams to leave Presidio on a club-by-club basis? Gradually building up the number of San Diego teams in SCDSL, so maybe there aren't enough for a purely San Diego SCDSL league right away but they add more teams over the next few years. Or is SCDSL making a play to get the whole Presidio to leave Cal South together in the near future?

My experience with the clubs in Presidio is that they have been generally satisfied with the way things have been run over the years There have been some issues (things like the 2005 website disaster) but club leaders could see that the BOD was working hard to correct things. Every monthly meeting is open to representatives of all clubs, and each club has a single vote - which tends to snub the economic power of the bigger clubs.

I don't know how SCDSL is run. Is it anything like that?
 
So if you had to guess, would SCDSL strategy be trying to get San Diego teams to leave Presidio on a club-by-club basis? Gradually building up the number of San Diego teams in SCDSL, so maybe there aren't enough for a purely San Diego SCDSL league right away but they add more teams over the next few years. Or is SCDSL making a play to get the whole Presidio to leave Cal South together in the near future?
I believe it would be the former on a club by club basis.

My son has played in both but its been a number of years. I felt Presidio/SDDA was better organized, although I know those that are currently frustrated by its archaic system of paper rosters that had to be returned by mail and the phoning in of scores.

SCDSL seemed very disorganized to me. We were lucky get one functioning ref at games. Sometimes they forget to schedule refs and we never had 3 refs unless the game was in SD. Game times were changed at the last minute etc. Fields in OC were terrible (pre Great Park). Now some of this may have been a function of the Clubs but we didn't have similar problems in SDDA.
 
I believe it would be the former on a club by club basis.

My son has played in both but its been a number of years. I felt Presidio/SDDA was better organized, although I know those that are currently frustrated by its archaic system of paper rosters that had to be returned by mail and the phoning in of scores.

SCDSL seemed very disorganized to me. We were lucky get one functioning ref at games. Sometimes they forget to schedule refs and we never had 3 refs unless the game was in SD. Game times were changed at the last minute etc. Fields in OC were terrible (pre Great Park). Now some of this may have been a function of the Clubs but we didn't have similar problems in SDDA.

My kids are on the younger side but we have played in Presidio for a number of years, and I have been a team parent manager in the past (thus responsible for game report, rosters, paying refs, etc). We never had a game where a ref failed to show, never had a problem getting fields, schedule didn't change last minute. What would be the incentive for a club to leave Presidio for SCDSL? I guess at least at first, the SD teams would have to go to OC to play -- Surf did that by choice a few years ago and it wasn't too popular at the younger ages (lots and lots of driving for ULittle games). Is it more about leaving Cal South??
 
SCDSL will have a San Diego division. How many leave from Presidio remains to be seen, but my money is it will be substantial. Bob will run the SCDSL San Diego Region.
 
Cal South is a dinosaur organization, a thing of the past. ODP, pro plus, etc. is no longer relevant and hasn't been relevant for years.
 
SCDSL will have a San Diego division. How many leave from Presidio remains to be seen, but my money is it will be substantial. Bob will run the SCDSL San Diego Region.

Message from Bob Turner:

"...This opportunity presented itself very recently and I believe that what the SCDSL is offering, through its transition out of Cal South and into US Club Soccer, will provide an abundance of possibilities and opportunities to all members that are part of the SCDSL, including the member clubs in San Diego.

Their new platform that includes State Cup, a CA State Championship, regionalized PDP, expanded coaching education, college showcases, the Discovery NPL, and a self-contained San Diego gaming schedule, that will rejuvenate youth soccer in Southern California.

I am excited about this new adventure and I would not be doing this if I did not whole-heartedly believe that this is what is best for the clubs in San Diego. Joining this movement to US Club and the SCDSL, will benefit everyone that is a part of it and I truly believe that the San Diego market deserves better and will thrive and prosper from it."
 
SCDSL will have a San Diego division. How many leave from Presidio remains to be seen, but my money is it will be substantial. Bob will run the SCDSL San Diego Region.


Consolidation into one league is finally happening. Fullerton rangers fc is moving to scdsl. My kid’s team can now drive 3 miles away for an away game and not 50 miles from North OC to Temecula.
 
Consolidation into one league is finally happening. Fullerton rangers fc is moving to scdsl. My kid’s team can now drive 3 miles away for an away game and not 50 miles from North OC to Temecula.

Rumor has it that AC Brea, Boca OC, Breakers Oceanside, and Golden State FC all will be leaving CSL & CAL South for USclub leagues, DSL, NPL's.

Not sure on the boys side who is still going to be playing CSL/ Cal South next season or how it will all shake out but it's going to be different.
 
Rumor has it that AC Brea, Boca OC, Breakers Oceanside, and Golden State FC all will be leaving CSL & CAL South for USclub leagues, DSL, NPL's.

Not sure on the boys side who is still going to be playing CSL/ Cal South next season or how it will all shake out but it's going to be different.
This is normal - rats running off of sinking ship
 
Rumor has it that AC Brea, Boca OC, Breakers Oceanside, and Golden State FC all will be leaving CSL & CAL South for USclub leagues, DSL, NPL's.

Not sure on the boys side who is still going to be playing CSL/ Cal South next season or how it will all shake out but it's going to be different.
On the Boys side, the interesting thing is that the clubs that have probably supplied the most players to the LA Galaxy and LAFC academies in recent years, as well as a fair number of other clubs playing in the MLS Next league, would still be in CSL, making its Premier division pretty strong (and perhaps the second strongest division in boys socal in a couple of age groups, ahead of everyone but MLS Next). The big one is TFA and some of its affiliates, and there are a few others like Riverside City FC, but there are a ton of smaller clubs like Laguna Academy, Paramount, Orange County United, Puma USA Kickers, that tend to just be vehicles for individual super teams coached by a parent who knows the kids from the neighborhoods - and these are neighborhoods that are full of kids who live and breathe soccer - and gets them out there. These aren't clubs with big technical directors or directors of coaching who are trying to make a living doing this and therefore the attraction of SCDSL isn't as great. They often just have a couple of teams at their kids' age groups that affiliate with a club to meet CSL requirements like Kickers does with Puma USA or many teams do with TFA's affiliates.

That could change. AC Brea has had a younger team that was very strong and Boca OC has had some individual teams like this, but clubs like FC Golden State have long since hollowed out their core program with so many teams in ECNL, ECRL etc. CSL will still have a lock on a lot of boys talent in central LA and other areas north and east at the moment, if for no other reason than geography.
 
On the Boys side, the interesting thing is that the clubs that have probably supplied the most players to the LA Galaxy and LAFC academies in recent years, as well as a fair number of other clubs playing in the MLS Next league, would still be in CSL, making its Premier division pretty strong (and perhaps the second strongest division in boys socal in a couple of age groups, ahead of everyone but MLS Next). The big one is TFA and some of its affiliates, and there are a few others like Riverside City FC, but there are a ton of smaller clubs like Laguna Academy, Paramount, Orange County United, Puma USA Kickers, that tend to just be vehicles for individual super teams coached by a parent who knows the kids from the neighborhoods - and these are neighborhoods that are full of kids who live and breathe soccer - and gets them out there. These aren't clubs with big technical directors or directors of coaching who are trying to make a living doing this and therefore the attraction of SCDSL isn't as great. They often just have a couple of teams at their kids' age groups that affiliate with a club to meet CSL requirements like Kickers does with Puma USA or many teams do with TFA's affiliates.

That could change. AC Brea has had a younger team that was very strong and Boca OC has had some individual teams like this, but clubs like FC Golden State have long since hollowed out their core program with so many teams in ECNL, ECRL etc. CSL will still have a lock on a lot of boys talent in central LA and other areas north and east at the moment, if for no other reason than geography.

I dunno how that will all shake out but premier has turned into a shell of its former.

TFA already has two feet out.. Next and EA, third or affiliated teams in CSL. Will they jump the shark?

Fringe circuits and clubs not going away they may grow also it's just if or who they choose to affiliate with or not?
 
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