How will this affect womens sports in college?

I do think the NCAA should (and will) come up with specific metrics to measure hormones post transition.
I also think this is such an insanely small occurrence that I can understand why it’s been a non issue. The NCAA has a lot more pressing things on their plate. How many athletes are we talking about? 1 every 5 years? Out of tens of thousands? I mean “ruin college sports???” That seems extreme

This is all just an excuse for bigots to fear monger over nothing. It is thoroughly enjoyable to watch them melting down though.
 
You’re funny. That race was a year and a half ago and, guess what, transgender athletes still get to participate for what, the 11th year in a row? The only folks getting their clocks cleaned are the transphobes here who are losing their s**t over a fake problem, and maybe a handful of D2 privileged snowflake Karens who aren’t ready to accept yet that they are just slow as f**k and should focus on academics instead of self-pity.
Funny, the video show bio females getting their clocks cleaned by a bio male. Beyond that, looks like bureaucracy is working for some.
 
This is all just an excuse for bigots to fear monger over nothing. It is thoroughly enjoyable to watch them melting down though.

Nahh, it's just an excuse to get you all frothy. Smart people who don't agree know it's a small population and not the end of the world. Doesn't diminish the fact that some people disagree and have the right to disagree. Unlike you, many people don't feel the need to kneel before legislation and have stuff jammed down their throat.
 
Nahh, it's just an excuse to get you all frothy. Smart people who don't agree know it's a small population and not the end of the world. Doesn't diminish the fact that some people disagree and have the right to disagree. Unlike you, many people don't feel the need to kneel before legislation and have stuff jammed down their throat.

Uh, I do not believe there is a single law requiring transgender athlete participation. There was a law in Idaho banning it, until is got smacked down as unconstitutional. Are you saying you hate the Constitution? Of course you do. You’ve already made it clear how much you hate the 1st Amendment.
 
Uh, I do not believe there is a single law requiring transgender athlete participation. There was a law in Idaho banning it, until is got smacked down as unconstitutional. Are you saying you hate the Constitution? Of course you do. You’ve already made it clear how much you hate the 1st Amendment.
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Uh, I do not believe there is a single law requiring transgender athlete participation. There was a law in Idaho banning it, until is got smacked down as unconstitutional. Are you saying you hate the Constitution? Of course you do. You’ve already made it clear how much you hate the 1st Amendment.

Sorry, Ladyboy, but you’re going to have to stop using EOTL and LGBTQXYZ because the city of ‘Frisco has deemed acronyms offensive and racist to non English speaking citizens in the U.S. Uh, my bad Ladyboy, “United States”. No word yet if BLM will change their name since the rules for everyone else never apply to them.

Now, I’m not sure who can’t speak English in the U.S., nor am I sure how non English speakers are offended by acronyms for words they can’t understand to begin with, but it’s clear you professional crybabies are starting to shoot yourselves in the head.
 
Sorry, Ladyboy, but you’re going to have to stop using EOTL and LGBTQXYZ because the city of ‘Frisco has deemed acronyms offensive and racist to non English speaking citizens in the U.S. Uh, my bad Ladyboy, “United States”. No word yet if BLM will change their name since the rules for everyone else never apply to them.

Now, I’m not sure who can’t speak English in the U.S., nor am I sure how non English speakers are offended by acronyms for words they can’t understand to begin with, but it’s clear you professional crybabies are starting to shoot yourselves in the head.

Again, you have it backwards. I am quite happy with how things are going. Did your daughter qualify ninth for an eight person race?
 
Yeah, he’s going to fool everybody! LMAO!

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@texanincali maybe you can start here holding people accountable.

Can we just create a tranny division? I’ll bring the popcorn and jockstraps.

Or here.

In retrospect, you don’t have time for a hobby. You don’t have time for kids in youth soccer, either.

Let’s do the tranny division thingy since they aren’t good enough to get a trophy with their own gender. Let’s lower the bar like we’re doing with everyone else. Nothing says “success” like a boy in lipstick crushing little girls at the finish line.

One question, though. Will that be enough to make daddy love them?

Or this.

Insane. You can cut the thorns off a rose but it's still a rose.

Or this.
 
Again, you have it backwards. I am quite happy with how things are going. Did your daughter qualify ninth for an eight person race?

No, you and your guy friends are the ones taping it “backwards”.

Does it hurt to run like that? Really need to clear those hurdles, right?
 
How many athletes are we talking about? 1 every 5 years? Out of tens of thousands? I mean “ruin college sports???” That seems extreme
Does it matter? Yes.

Tell it to some woman in college losing to a guy. Tell her hey this doesn't happen to often. Suck it up buttercup. Is that the attitude? Take one for the team...pretend you lost to a women and everything was equal.

It is pretty simple. You want to wear a dress, have at it. Do as you will. Guys pretending they are women don't get to play in women's sports however.

People need to stop worrying about being politically correct and say you know what? There is a reason we have women's and men's divisions.
 
I didn’t say “it doesn’t matter.” I said it’s not a threat to ruin college sports.
I’ve also said the high school rules regarding it need to be examined and ncaa rules need to be reviewed to make sure it’s governed well.

it absolutely matters. I just don’t think it’s frequent enough to be labeled as the downfall of college sports.

and there have been women competing in ncaa sports for years who were born with both parts but their parents selected them to be women. Yet there are clear signs that they retained a lot of male features and attributes. For those cases only the coaching staff and athletic trainers are in the know and there are no hormone or other metrics those women had to meet. Yet they certainly had physical advantages and received scholarships and playing time and opportunities ahead of 100% genetic women. I know of 3 and the coaches and trainers handled it with the utmost sensitivity and care for the young women who obviously had a lot to juggle within themselves. I’m sure there are others.

All this to say this has been going on for years and college sports hasn’t been ruined.
 
I just don’t think it’s frequent enough to be labeled as the downfall of college sports.
Ok the label the person used to start the thread is off....ie ruin or the downfall of sports. It wont ruin the entire sport. It will however affect those women athletes that lose to men who now compete against them.

So we are stuck with this.

If a guy wants to play on the women's team, the college will say no, this is a women's team. But when that guy says hey I identify as a women...now we are supposed to go...OH OK well why didn't you say that. In that case you are in!

It is ridiculous some people think this is OK.

It is as ridiculous as me (a white guy) suddenly declaring I am black and applying for minority loans, hoping to get grants set aside for minorities, and so on. People would rightly tell me dude go home you are white. But in regards to sex we are supposed to pretend for sports a guy who dresses up as a chick can play women's sports?

Common sense in both of the above scenarios say NO.
 
Ok the label the person used to start the thread is off....ie ruin or the downfall of sports. It wont ruin the entire sport. It will however affect those women athletes that lose to men who now compete against them.

So we are stuck with this.

If a guy wants to play on the women's team, the college will say no, this is a women's team. But when that guy says hey I identify as a women...now we are supposed to go...OH OK well why didn't you say that. In that case you are in!

It is ridiculous some people think this is OK.

It is as ridiculous as me (a white guy) suddenly declaring I am black and applying for minority loans, hoping to get grants set aside for minorities, and so on. People would rightly tell me dude go home you are white. But in regards to sex we are supposed to pretend for sports a guy who dresses up as a chick can play women's sports?

Common sense in both of the above scenarios say NO.

There have been and will be ZERO INSTANCES where a man realizes that he won’t excel or advance in his chosen sport at his talent/ability level and then decides “I know! I’ll become a woman in order to make the team/get a scholarship/win the title”
That has not nor will ever happen. To reduce these people’s choices down to a sports advantage is so ignorant and asinine.
I don’t even think they should be allowed to compete with women without serious governance and even I can empathize with the difficult lives and inner battles they face. Have some humanity. If it was your kid you’d hope for some empathy and compassion.
 
There have been and will be ZERO INSTANCES where a man realizes that he won’t excel or advance in his chosen sport at his talent/ability level and then decides “I know! I’ll become a woman in order to make the team/get a scholarship/win the title”
That has not nor will ever happen. To reduce these people’s choices down to a sports advantage is so ignorant and asinine.
I don’t even think they should be allowed to compete with women without serious governance and even I can empathize with the difficult lives and inner battles they face. Have some humanity. If it was your kid you’d hope for some empathy and compassion.
Is anyone accusing anyone of faking trans status? I agree it isn’t an issue. Nor is it a question of the end of all women’s sport.

There is an issue, for certain events in certain states, with women being relegated to second tier status in their own sport.

And, so far, no one* here on the left has been willing to talk about the girls who spend 5 years training in a sport, only to find out that the top one or two slots are occupied by boys.

*Except EOTL. He wants to insult any girls in that situation.
 
Is anyone accusing anyone of faking trans status? I agree it isn’t an issue. Nor is it a question of the end of all women’s sport.

There is an issue, for certain events in certain states, with women being relegated to second tier status in their own sport.

And, so far, no one* here on the left has been willing to talk about the girls who spend 5 years training in a sport, only to find out that the top one or two slots are occupied by boys.

*Except EOTL. He wants to insult any girls in that situation.
Okay, I’ll bite. Could you please define girl and boy?
 
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