Let Them Play CA

[Grace T.]

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Couldn't agree here more with @dad4.

What I find interesting on these boards is how many of us on the left (not sure where @dad4 stands, but @Glitterhater is a good example) are willing to call out @EOTL's shenanigans, but very few of the folks that lean right here won't call out some of the extreme right dudes. I mean some of them are really bad -- racist, homophobic, etc. But even more generally, I just rarely see people calling out GOP/conservatives. It's like republicans are untouchable here and can do no wrong. Just an observation.

Let me get some popcorn

Meh. Over the summer those of us who were quick to condemn Sheriff Joe's rants said the same thing about you left leaners and EOTL. It actually took quite a while for you guys to get sick of him. For example, we have not seen much of NITF around here since dropping the "c" word, but I don't recall much outrage there either.

 

[Grace T.]

Some people (trolls) just post outrageous things for their own amusement. Unless it is a direct personal attack, just chuckle and then ignore it.

No doubt you speak from experience.

 

[NorCalDad]

Meh. Over the summer those of us who were quick to condemn Sheriff Joe's rants said the same thing about you left leaners and EOTL. It actually took quite a while for you guys to get sick of him. For example, we have not seen much of NITF around here since dropping the "c" word, but I don't recall much outrage there either.

In my defense, I just joined in September of 2020. Took me a bit to get my bearings straight. So perhaps there is some history I haven't really seen.

 

[Grace T.]

In my defense, I just joined in September of 2020. Took me a bit to get my bearings straight. So perhaps there is some history I haven't really seen.

You missed all the good parts then.

It began with "it's just the flu and we don't need to worry about it" v "this is very serious and we're all going to die".

Then it went into we antilockdowners screaming at the prolockdowners "you all are hysterical" v. the prolockdowners telling us "we wanted to kill grandma".

Things really went off the rails when some of the prolockdowners supported the BLM protests as special (and that was when EOTL came to prominence defending the protests when some of us were saying they would shatter the consensus of the lockdowns and being accused of being racist for not supporting the protests). Those events really did break everything because until that moment were really more or less all in it together.

Things are relatively more harmonious now since the prolockdowners were convinced this wasn't particularly harmful to kids (that really did take forever) and the consensus here at a minimum is that kids should be allowed to play.

 

[dad4]

Couldn't agree here more with @dad4.

What I find interesting on these boards is how many of us on the left (not sure where @dad4 stands, but @Glitterhater is a good example) are willing to call out @EOTL's shenanigans, but very few of the folks that lean right here won't call out some of the extreme right dudes. I mean some of them are really bad -- racist, homophobic, etc. But even more generally, I just rarely see people calling out GOP/conservatives. It's like republicans are untouchable here and can do no wrong. Just an observation.

Let me get some popcorn

There were a couple on the right who got called out, but they mostly got themselves banned.

I think it mostly just reflects the national mood. You have a few principled conservatives, like Cheney and Romney. But they get drowned out by tribalism.

How do you not bust a gut laughing at the idea that Cheney is a RINO? It's like saying Bernie is a hawk.

Same happens on the left. You have to be extremely careful with your wording if you want to think any more deeply than blaming "systemic racism" for everything under the sun.

So people take the safe path. It just leads nowhere.

 

[Grace T.]

There were a couple on the right who got called out, but they mostly got themselves banned.

I think it mostly just reflects the national mood. You have a few principled conservatives, like Cheney and Romney. But they get drowned out by tribalism.

How do you not bust a gut laughing at the idea that Cheney is a RINO? It's like saying Bernie is a hawk.

Same happens on the left. You have to be extremely careful with your wording if you want to think any more deeply than blaming "systemic racism" for everything under the sun.

So people take the safe path. It just leads nowhere.

Agree but the Cheney thing is similar to the George Will, Bill Kristol and even George Bush thing. That split is less RINO/populist than neocon/populist. Trump populism leaned away from foreign interventionism (of the modern President, Trump put us into the fewest entanglements) and away from multilateralism in favor of America first. The neocons despise Trumpism for that because they view it as walking away from our responsibilities as a superpower. Trumpism was not just a rejection of the way Obama ran the country, but also of the Bush version of the Republican party, both in its "compassionate conservativity" and the neocon foreign policy that led to the Iraq war.

 

[texanincali]

What I find interesting on these boards is how many of us on the left (not sure where @dad4 stands, but @Glitterhater is a good example) are willing to call out @EOTL's shenanigans, but very few of the folks that lean right here won't call out some of the extreme right dudes. I mean some of them are really bad -- racist, homophobic, etc. But even more generally, I just rarely see people calling out GOP/conservatives. It's like republicans are untouchable here and can do no wrong. Just an observation.

This is a very level headed post. However, their is really no reason to discern left or right. If we all agree to call out the idiots, life will be much better. It may not always happen as quickly as we like, but the idiots always end up stepping on their own feet around here.

 

[EOTL]

This is a very level headed post. However, their is really no reason to discern left or right. If we all agree to call out the idiots, life will be much better. It may not always happen as quickly as we like, but the idiots always end up stepping on their own feet around here.

No one is calling out magats, and don’t pat yourself on the back for your appeasement. Who has called out @Lavey29 for calling Covid China virus for no reason other than he knows it is offensive? Just me. How many of you have called out Scotty S**t for Brains for his offensive comments about transgender people? Me and one other person.

The truth is virtually all of you trumpanzees are fine to go after me, but are notably silent when your magat friends say one offensive thing after the next. No worries. That’s why I am here.

 

[soccersc]

No one is calling out magats, and don’t pat yourself on the back for your appeasement. Who has called out @Lavey29 for calling Covid China virus for no reason other than he knows it is offensive? Just me. How many of you have called out Scotty S**t for Brains for his offensive comments about transgender people? Me and one other person.

The truth is virtually all of you trumpanzees are fine to go after me, but are notably silent when your magat friends say one offensive thing after the next. No worries. That’s why I am here.

You are here because you are bored at work and have nothing else to do, so you troll all day. The life!! Must be nice to be single and have no responsibilities and have a job that you sit on chat boards all day

 

[watfly]

No one is calling out magats, and don’t pat yourself on the back for your appeasement. Who has called out @Lavey29 for calling Covid China virus for no reason other than he knows it is offensive? Just me. How many of you have called out Scotty S**t for Brains for his offensive comments about transgender people? Me and one other person.

The truth is virtually all of you trumpanzees are fine to go after me, but are notably silent when your magat friends say one offensive thing after the next. No worries. That’s why I am here.

I'm going to regret this, but trying to understand the "other" side. Why is calling it the China Virus offensive? (And yes I understand that Scott is saying it to get under you skin.) But why does it get under your skin so much?

Why is that different then calling variants, the UK Variant, Brazil Variant, South African variant? In all cases it just refers to the origination of the virus.

 

[crush]

You missed all the good parts then.

It began with "it's just the flu and we don't need to worry about it" v "this is very serious and we're all going to die".

Then it went into we antilockdowners screaming at the prolockdowners "you all are hysterical" v. the prolockdowners telling us "we wanted to kill grandma".

Things really went off the rails when some of the prolockdowners supported the BLM protests as special (and that was when EOTL came to prominence defending the protests when some of us were saying they would shatter the consensus of the lockdowns and being accused of being racist for not supporting the protests). Those events really did break everything because until that moment were really more or less all in it together.

Things are relatively more harmonious now since the prolockdowners were convinced this wasn't particularly harmful to kids (that really did take forever) and the consensus here at a minimum is that kids should be allowed to play.

Let's not forget about Crush and his adoption story

 

[EOTL]

I'm going to regret this, but trying to understand the "other" side. Why is calling it the China Virus offensive? (And yes I understand that Scott is saying it to get under you skin.) But why does it get under your skin so much?

Why is that different then calling variants, the UK Variant, Brazil Variant, South African variant? In all cases it just refers to the origination of the virus.

Thank you for asking. You could do your own research to determine why it is offensive, it is not hard. And, of course, the sole reason he uses the term is for the specific purpose to be offensive. And although he is trying to be offensive to me, the reality is that it is offensive to Asian-Americans and that is the problem. There is a name for the virus, and that is not it.

“Chinese” Virus is a Racist Take — Here’s Why

The “Chinese" virus remark by Donald Trump in a press conference in March brewed increasing amounts of racism and hate crime in America.

diversity.ncsu.edu

Calling COVID-19 a “Chinese Virus” or “Kung Flu” Is Racist

Terms like "Chinese Virus" and "The Kung Flu" spread racism and xenophobia, adding another level of threat and vulnerability for Asian Americans.

www.psychologytoday.com

America’s long history of scapegoating its Asian citizens

When leaders call COVID-19 the “China virus,” it harkens back to decades of state-sanctioned discrimination against Asian Americans.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Why it is NOT the ‘Chinese virus’

Have you ever walked into a crowded movie theater late? The lights are dim and you need to find a seat. You wait until there’s a bright scene, then sheepishly t…

theundefeated.com

'You have Chinese virus': 1 in 4 Asian American youths experience racist bullying, report says

A group of high school students interviewed nearly 1,000 young Asian Americans to explore how youths are dealing with the pandemic-fueled rise in racism.

www.nbcnews.com

And no, they are not calling anything UK Virus or South Africa Virus. And racists aren’t calling it a Chinese Variant of Covid-19 or the coronavirus in general, although that is exactly what it is. Furthermore, putting UK or South Africa in front of it does not cause racist magats to treat Brits or South Africans like crap, because they can’t pick them out of a crowd and also never would once they hear an accent they don’t have a problem with. But many of them actually do treat rhe Chinese like s**t using that as an excuse, or any Asian American because they’re too f**king dumb and racist to care or know the difference, or are just looking for the excuse. Anyone with half a brain should understand that calling it China Virus opens the door for trumpanzees to blame Asian Americans for causing this, and that some are actually doing this. Refusing engage in the most basic form of decency - calling something by its actual name - instead of pinning a race to the incorrect and improper name for the express purpose of offending people, or even opening the door to others using it as an excuse to treat a race like shit is pretty f**king racist.

Ask yourself why you are ok calling something that is not the actual, or even common, name of a virus, although you know that many consider it offensive AND it is contributing to Asian-Americans being harassed? If you keep doing it, it is only because you’re an a**hole racist.

 

[happy9]

Thank you for asking. You could do your own research to determine why it is offensive, it is not hard. And, of course, the sole reason he uses the term is for the specific purpose to be offensive. And although he is trying to be offensive to me, the reality is that it is offensive to Asian-Americans and that is the problem. There is a name for the virus, and that is not it.

“Chinese” Virus is a Racist Take — Here’s Why

The “Chinese" virus remark by Donald Trump in a press conference in March brewed increasing amounts of racism and hate crime in America.

diversity.ncsu.edu

Calling COVID-19 a “Chinese Virus” or “Kung Flu” Is Racist

Terms like "Chinese Virus" and "The Kung Flu" spread racism and xenophobia, adding another level of threat and vulnerability for Asian Americans.

www.psychologytoday.com

America’s long history of scapegoating its Asian citizens

When leaders call COVID-19 the “China virus,” it harkens back to decades of state-sanctioned discrimination against Asian Americans.

www.nationalgeographic.com

Why it is NOT the ‘Chinese virus’

Have you ever walked into a crowded movie theater late? The lights are dim and you need to find a seat. You wait until there’s a bright scene, then sheepishly t…

theundefeated.com

'You have Chinese virus': 1 in 4 Asian American youths experience racist bullying, report says

A group of high school students interviewed nearly 1,000 young Asian Americans to explore how youths are dealing with the pandemic-fueled rise in racism.

www.nbcnews.com

And no, they are not calling anything UK Virus or South Africa Virus. And racists aren’t calling it a Chinese Variant of Covid-19 or the coronavirus in general, although that is exactly what it is. Furthermore, putting UK or South Africa in front of it does not cause racist magats to treat Brits or South Africans like crap, because they can’t pick them out of a crowd and also never would once they hear an accent they don’t have a problem with. But many of them actually do treat rhe Chinese like s**t using that as an excuse, or any Asian American because they’re too f**king dumb and racist to care or know the difference, or are just looking for the excuse. Anyone with half a brain should understand that calling it China Virus opens the door for trumpanzees to blame Asian Americans for causing this, and that some are actually doing this. Refusing engage in the most basic form of decency - calling something by its actual name - instead of pinning a race to the incorrect and improper name for the express purpose of offending people, or even opening the door to others using it as an excuse to treat a race like shit is pretty f**king racist.

Ask yourself why you are ok calling something that is not the actual, or even common, name of a virus, although you know that many consider it offensive AND it is contributing to Asian-Americans being harassed? If you keep doing it, it is only because you’re an a**hole racist.

 

[EOTL]

Not surprised magat.

 

[happy9]

Not surprised magat.

tuff guy! my feelings be hurt.

Did the virus not originate in China? I have nothing against the Chinese people. Not their fault they are manipulated each and every day on behalf and for the benefit of their wonderful government.

 

[EOTL]

tuff guy!

Thx! Needless to say, obviously someone with such a small penis that they feel compelled to use or support racist language is not the least bit tough.

 

[happy9]

Thx! Needless to say, obviously someone with such a small penis that they feel compelled to use or support racist language is not the least bit tough.

are you allowed to use that word?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

Couldn't agree here more with @dad4.

What I find interesting on these boards is how many of us on the left (not sure where @dad4 stands, but @Glitterhater is a good example) are willing to call out @EOTL's shenanigans, but very few of the folks that lean right here won't call out some of the extreme right dudes. I mean some of them are really bad -- racist, homophobic, etc. But even more generally, I just rarely see people calling out GOP/conservatives. It's like republicans are untouchable here and can do no wrong. Just an observation.

Let me get some popcorn

What is there to bash republicans for? I’m an independent and have fundamental issues with the GOP in any year, but if you’re looking to say republicans have behaved badly, compared to what I’ve seen from Dems the last 4 years, I’d love to hear that argument.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

No one is calling out magats, and don’t pat yourself on the back for your appeasement. Who has called out @Lavey29 for calling Covid China virus for no reason other than he knows it is offensive? Just me. How many of you have called out Scotty S**t for Brains for his offensive comments about transgender people? Me and one other person.

The truth is virtually all of you trumpanzees are fine to go after me, but are notably silent when your magat friends say one offensive thing after the next. No worries. That’s why I’m here.

You’re here to be offended. Everything gets your panties in a bunch. Calling a virus, that originated in China, the “China Virus” offends you. Conservatism offends you. Religion offends you. Amendments offend you. Me saying “trannies” offends you". Anyone with a differing opinion offends you.

You’re the kid even nice kids wanted to pummel.[/QUOTE]

 

[texanincali]

No one is calling out magats, and don’t pat yourself on the back for your appeasement. Who has called out @Lavey29 for calling Covid China virus for no reason other than he knows it is offensive? Just me. How many of you have called out Scotty S**t for Brains for his offensive comments about transgender people? Me and one other person.

The truth is virtually all of you trumpanzees are fine to go after me, but are notably silent when your magat friends say one offensive thing after the next. No worries. That’s why I am here.

What you seem to missing is the fact that no one is going after you because of your opinion. You being a complete and total arrogant prick is the basis for the attacks.

 

[EOTL]

What you seem to missing is the fact that no one is going after you because of your opinion. You being a complete and total arrogant prick is the basis for the attacks.

I get why people here don’t like me. If you want to call out idiots as you claim, you should probably do that with the bigots here. If you got them to stfu and to state their opinions about social distancing in a non-offensive manner, you’d have no problems with me. The real problem, though, is that most of the people here who aren’t blatant in-your-face racists don’t have a problem with those who are. The other problem, of course, is that you can’t make them stop by being polite, which makes my way the only one.