Joe Biden’s First Day Began the End of Girls’ Sports

happy9 said:
So you haven't had one yet? a girl? again, not talking about college. My DD isn't scared of a thing and up until this year, routinely played against 100% boys teams of her same age as part of their training regimen. That stopped this year. Boys are too big, too strong. They still play boys, but usually an age group or two down. The idea that a bio boy who identifies as a girl without having the requisite controls in place as mandated by the NCAA and the IOC, at age 14-16, should be on the field with girls is silly to most parents of girls. I'm sure (cross my fingers) that you have at least played organized sports at some level as a youth. Size, speed, strength matters. And when the difference is too far apart, can be dangerous.

It's a tough argument to have, especially from a social, cultural perspective. I don't think the idea of hatred goes through any parent's mind. Season ending/career ending injuries come to mind.

It's a tough predicament and the outcomes aren't going to please everyone. I don't have one iota of an argument against transgender athletes that have gone through the required protocols to play the sport they love.

So go ahead and spew your hate. I'm beginning to doubt you ever played sports or have a child that does/did. On those assumptions alone, your opinion is about as relevant as the steam of dog sh!t.

But you are pretty good about arguing nonsense and spreading vitriol.
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You don't until your kid loses a team roster spot. May not happen to you but it has happened. Nobody is denying anyones humanity but there is a major difference between boy and girls streghnth
 
happy9 said:
It's certainly not black and white.
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It kind of is black and white for me.

Can you imagine giving a girl steroid supplements for 18 years, backing it off slightly for 12 months, and then entering her against people who had none of the drugs?

That is milder than the advantage a boy gets by entering a girls event.
 
dad4 said:
It kind of is black and white for me.

Can you imagine giving a girl steroid supplements for 18 years, backing it off slightly for 12 months, and then entering her against people who had none of the drugs?

That is milder than the advantage a boy gets by entering a girls event.
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The on the field stuff is black and white. Culture and society, in my opinion, not so much
 
Curious as this conversation has been focused on biological male athletes competing with biological female athletes. Is the converse true? Are transgender biological females required to abstain from women’s sports and complete with biological males?
 
happy9 said:
There is a lot of truth to that. I may reconsider the option in order to engage in meaningful discussion.
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EOTL's idea of meaningful discussion is you agreeing with with him.

It's funny that he thinks his left wing magatry is somehow less reprehensible. Same mentality to those that somehow think AOC is less reprehensible than MTG.
 
N00B said:
Curious as this conversation has been focused on biological male athletes competing with biological female athletes. Is the converse true? Are transgender biological females required to abstain from women’s sports and complete with biological males?
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Anecdotal, but one of my son's best friends is F to M transgender and he competes in boys sports. Great, well-adjusted kid. In this case, he clearly was born the wrong biological gender.
 
N00B said:
Curious as this conversation has been focused on biological male athletes competing with biological female athletes. Is the converse true? Are transgender biological females required to abstain from women’s sports and complete with biological males?
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There is no advantage to them playing boys/mens sports...and the boys/men are not harmed.

The concern as per the thread is when a boy/man decides he wants to play on a girls/womens team. That is where the unfair advantage comes into play. Not the other way around right?
 
Copa9 said:
Question? Are the transgender athletes also required to take estrogen for a year or two? Don't know, does anyone. It seems that would help with fat distribution maybe cause the pelvis to widen, especially if administered at age 13, 14 or 15. Maybe help in the development of breast tissue as well, increase water retention all things nature does to a female body to help grow a human being inside the body to preserve the species. Maybe the intake of estrogen would help to level the playing field in addition to decreasing testosterone levels. Why would that also not be a requirement?
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As far as I can tell, it looks like the transgender player my daughter has been playing against has been taking estrogen. She definitely seems to be developing in her chest region, etc. Or she's had implants. Or maybe she's wearing a padded sports bra? I don't know. FWIW, she's in the age range listed above.

That doesn't negate her broad, obviously male shoulders, torso and overall stature. She still stands out physically, though she doesn't dominate (yet) on the field. It will be interesting to see how things play out these next couple years.

That said, the last time I watched her play, I remember thinking how lucky she was to play in such a safe (from my perspective) environment. I imagine that if she were forced to play on a boys' team/in a boys' league, the parents and players may not treat her the same.

I can definitely see different sides to this issue and have mixed feelings myself.
 
Desert Hound said:
There is no advantage to them playing boys/mens sports...and the boys/men are not harmed.

The concern as per the thread is when a boy/man decides he wants to play on a girls/womens team. That is where the unfair advantage comes into play. Not the other way around right?
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Wrong. The concern are knuckle dragging trumpanzees refuse to treat trans girls with dignity and respect, making every step in life much harder for them, and it impossible to play sport safely any other way. The irony with their fake safety argument is that there is much greater injury risk forcing trans girls to play with boys and suffer inevitable abuse because of it.
 
dean said:
As far as I can tell, it looks like the transgender player my daughter has been playing against has been taking estrogen.
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I will say it again. What the hell are parents doing giving their kids estrogen? Or any other drug to inhibit or change body makeup?

They should be at least 18 before they start doing anything like that.
 
EOTL said:
Great. Get your buddies like Scotty boy to treat people with dignity and respect, and we’ll talk about my approach.

And stop making up nonsense about fat shaming girls. Look, I get that you’re on the losing end of this argument and don’t have legitimate counter-arguments, but making up lies is really unbecoming. Honestly, I do not agree with how you’re going about trying to make your point, whatever that point is that you’re trying to make.
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With dignity? I don’t pick on kids. When a 40-year old man walks down the street wearing lipstick, a dress and facial hair, I’m going to laugh. Sorry, I laugh at a lot of things.
 
EOTL said:
Gosh, two days ago Biden ends women’s sports, and today he ended child birth. Is nothing sacred?

www.cnn.com

Biden signs memorandum reversing Trump abortion access restrictions

President Joe Biden signed a presidential memorandum on Thursday to reverse restrictions on abortion access domestically and abroad imposed and expanded by the Trump administration.
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Yeah, we get it. You don’t support females but you DO root for unfair sports, killing babies and Dougs with jugs.
 
dean said:
As far as I can tell, it looks like the transgender player my daughter has been playing against has been taking estrogen. She definitely seems to be developing in her chest region, etc. Or she's had implants. Or maybe she's wearing a padded sports bra? I don't know. FWIW, she's in the age range listed above.

That doesn't negate her broad, obviously male shoulders, torso and overall stature. She still stands out physically, though she doesn't dominate (yet) on the field. It will be interesting to see how things play out these next couple years.

That said, the last time I watched her play, I remember thinking how lucky she was to play in such a safe (from my perspective) environment. I imagine that if she were forced to play on a boys' team/in a boys' league, the parents and players may not treat her the same.

I can definitely see different sides to this issue and have mixed feelings myself.
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It may just be a generational thing. A female to male trans athlete in my middle school would have been teased relentlessly.

30 years later, when I coached a trans kid on a boys middle school team, it was not at all an issue. I don’t think a single kid cared one way or the other. The only time it came up was a uniform question about t-shirts under their tank tops.
 
EOTL said:
Wrong. The concern are knuckle dragging trumpanzees refuse to treat trans girls with dignity and respect, making every step in life much harder for them, and it impossible to play sport safely any other way. The irony with their fake safety argument is that there is much greater injury risk forcing trans girls to play with boys and suffer inevitable abuse because of it.
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At what point do you think injuries would be a risk?

The rest of your statement is gibberish and white noise.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
With dignity? I don’t pick on kids. When a 40-year old man walks down the street wearing lipstick, a dress and facial hair, I’m going to laugh. Sorry, I laugh at a lot of things.
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True story, (as mortifying as this is,) I was in a store with my youngest a few years ago, (he was 5? At the time...) And there was a middle aged male in a dress, purse, heels, and makeup. I knew it was coming, and I tried to deflect- but my son pretty loudly says "why is that man wearing a dress? It's not halloween?" I ABOUT DIED.

Before anyone jumps on me, I died of embarrassment, not laughter. We are not teaching our kids to laugh at people! But he was 5....
 
Glitterhater said:
True story, (as mortifying as this is,) I was in a store with my youngest a few years ago, (he was 5? At the time...) And there was a middle aged male in a dress, purse, heels, and makeup. I knew it was coming, and I tried to deflect- but my son pretty loudly says "why is that man wearing a dress? It's not halloween?" I ABOUT DIED.

Before anyone jumps on me, I died of embarrassment, not laughter. We are not teaching our kids to laugh at people! But he was 5....
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Out of the mouths of babes.
 
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