Let Them Play CA

[EOTL]

I'm with your satire in the first graf. However- wth should someone who has broken the law get vaccinated ahead of a law abiding citizen?? Sure- vaccinate them to stop spread. But ahead of others? Nah, don't agree there.

Because people in prison don’t have the ability to take action to protect themselves. Because a 3-5 year sentence is not the death penalty. Because there are these things called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights that require that inmates be treated like humans. Because the alternative is to let about half of CA prison inmates out of prison to reduce the crowding, which may be worse.

Plus, like the magats here have been saying forever, it’s no problem for old or sick people to avoid getting it. They can just stay home until it’s over.

 

[GeekKid]

Because people in prison don’t have the ability to take action to protect themselves. Because a 3-5 year sentence is not the death penalty. Because there are these things called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights that require that inmates be treated like humans. Because the alternative is to let about half of CA prison inmates out of prison to reduce the crowding, which may be worse.

Plus, like the magats here have been saying forever, it’s no problem for old or sick people to avoid getting it. They can just stay home until it’s over.

@dad4 asked a question and wanted to know about supporting reference material. You can spin it anyway you want. Glad to see you're back on the civil liberties track. I was worried about you.

 

[EOTL]

Wow, you really can weave a story out of one word and a link.

You don’t care about the homeless? They don’t matter so just let them die? You don’t care about the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights? We can just ignore them if it means little Kaitlyn can play kiddie sports sooner?

 

[EOTL]

@dad4 asked a question and wanted to know about supporting reference material. You can spin it anyway you want. Glad to see you're back on the civil liberties track. I was worried about you.

IKR. Homeless people should die. They’re such a blight anyway. We can also dispense with the Constitution of the U.S. and Bill of Rights if we’re talking about people we don’t care about.

 

[happy9]

Newsom is all over the place...so worried about getting recalled he doesn't now what to do...ICUs are still full, but hey, lets open back up??? What? What a great decision maker

California lifts regional stay-at-home orders as ICU crowding eases | CNN

California health officials ended the state's regional stay-at-home order on Monday, saying the latest projections for intensive care unit capacity allowed the restrictions to be lifted.

www.cnn.com

Sciency, kinda. Influency, maybe. Politiking - yes...

 

[happy9]

You don’t care about the homeless? They don’t matter so just let them die? You don’t care about the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights? We can just ignore them if it means little Kaitlyn can play kiddie sports sooner?

He hasn't cared about them before, why start now? Oh yea, science..

 

[EOTL]

Incarcerated People Should Get Priority Access to the COVID-19 Vaccine. It's the Smart and Humane Thing to Do. | ACLU

If officials fail to prioritize incarcerated individuals for the vaccine, we will take them to court.

www.aclu.org

OMG, CA is one of 10 states vaccinating prisoners in phase 1. The horror!

Incarcerated people and corrections staff should be prioritized in COVID-19 vaccination plans

Some states are including correctional facilities in their rollout plans. All states and the BOP should do so - and put incarcerated people near the ...

www.prisonpolicy.org

 

[happy9]

Incarcerated People Should Get Priority Access to the COVID-19 Vaccine. It's the Smart and Humane Thing to Do. | ACLU

If officials fail to prioritize incarcerated individuals for the vaccine, we will take them to court.

www.aclu.org

OMG, CA is one of 10 states vaccinating prisoners in phase 1. The horror!

Incarcerated people and corrections staff should be prioritized in COVID-19 vaccination plans

Some states are including correctional facilities in their rollout plans. All states and the BOP should do so - and put incarcerated people near the ...

www.prisonpolicy.org

both opinion pieces. This is good lobbyist stuff. Sounds like the burokrats need to roll up their sleeves and go to work, come up with a plan to prioritize everyone.

 

[TOSDCI]

Because people in prison don’t have the ability to take action to protect themselves. Because a 3-5 year sentence is not the death penalty. Because there are these things called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights that require that inmates be treated like humans. Because the alternative is to let about half of CA prison inmates out of prison to reduce the crowding, which may be worse.

Plus, like the magats here have been saying forever, it’s no problem for old or sick people to avoid getting it. They can just stay home until it’s over.

Ummm....they did.

Amid COVID-19, California releases some inmates doing time for murder. Advocates push to free more

California has focused on freeing nonviolent offenders to combat the spread of coronavirus in prisons, but some have committed violent crimes.

www.latimes.com

 

[EOTL]

He hasn't cared about them before, why start now? Oh yea, science..

Nice try with the snark, but it is very clear that you’re the one who doesn’t care about them. I know that because your buddies and now you have made it clear that you are perfectly happy with all of them dying of Covid, while he quite clearly is making efforts to get that high risk population vaccinated.

 

[EOTL]

Ummm....they did.

Amid COVID-19, California releases some inmates doing time for murder. Advocates push to free more

California has focused on freeing nonviolent offenders to combat the spread of coronavirus in prisons, but some have committed violent crimes.

www.latimes.com

God you’re so f**king stupid. That was back in Aug when only 1,000 people a day were dying, not 4,000. You do understand that when you release the less violent inmates, you only have the more violent inmates left, right? Do you want to release them now too? Or do you want to violate the US Constitution and Bill of Rights that you don’t care about?

Or maybe he should have foreseen how stupid Americans are and built a lot more prisons in the last six months so that all those criminals could have their own spacious luxury pads to reduce transmission and comply with Constitutional requirements.

 

[EOTL]

This Constitution thing just keeps getting in the way of us magats. It prevents us from compelling companies to publish the speech we want to hear. It prevents us from stopping the “lamestream” media from publishing the truth. It keeps us from killing off homeless people and inmates. We should just get rid of it. F**k that thing, right? Who’s with me!

 

[GeekKid]

You don’t care about the homeless? They don’t matter so just let them die? You don’t care about the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights? We can just ignore them if it means little Kaitlyn can play kiddie sports sooner?

I didn't state anyone of those words or thoughts. Thanks for fabricating though, you're good at it.

 

[dad4]

Based on early outbreaks, prisoners and prison guards should be early, for the same reason that meat packing plant workers should be early. Certain places breed covid, and they should be a high priority.

EOTL, pour yourself a nice cup of chamomile tea, and give up on the attempts at sarcasm. It is neither funny nor persuasive.

 

[EOTL]

I didn't state anyone of those words or thoughts. Thanks for fabricating though, you're good at it.

Gosh, I’m glad to hear you are in favor of vaccinating the homeless and inmates then.

 

[happy9]

Nice try with the snark, but it is very clear that you’re the one who doesn’t care about them. I know that because your buddies and now you have made it clear that you are perfectly happy with all of them dying of Covid, while he quite clearly is making efforts to get that high risk population vaccinated.

Yep, that's what I said. What "buddy" are you talking about? But, I guess if you think about it, Darwinism does have it's upsides from time to time. You would support that in the context of trumpanzees right?

Clearly I said there needs to be a plan. Not just sound bites from groups that are jockeying for political position, influencing burokrats to do their bidding. At some point planning and execution needs to occur, not just windbag politiks. Governments in general have already set the expectation so low. Complete dosage vaccination of any high risk group would be a win. But the bar is very low. Maybe between Chick Fil A and Amazon, we could get something done. We have to start somewhere.

 

[watfly]

Yep, that's what I said. What "buddy" are you talking about? But, I guess if you think about it, Darwinism does have it's upsides from time to time. You would support that in the context of trumpanzees right?

Clearly I said there needs to be a plan. Not just sound bites from groups that are jockeying for political position, influencing burokrats to do their bidding. At some point planning and execution needs to occur, not just windbag politiks. Governments in general have already set the expectation so low. Complete dosage vaccination of any high risk group would be a win. But the bar is very low. Maybe between Chick Fil A and Amazon, we could get something done. We have to start somewhere.

If Chick Fil A was running the vaccine program we'd be done by now, or close to done...ya know Sundays and all.

 

[Glitterhater]

San Quentin was no joke....lots of innocent folks were impacted there. Not saying I agree with this prioritization, just pointing out it's not just criminals that are relieved here.

Agree- but my answer is going to be that the state needs to figure out how to vaccinate them in parallel. If we're so concerned with optics, (which is what a lot of all this really is,) it looks awful to prioritize prisons over general population.

 

[lafalafa]

If Chick Fil A was running the vaccine program we'd be done by now, or close to done...ya know Sundays and all.

Can I get a 12 piece with Chick-fil-A sauce and a vaccine on the side. Cars always lined up so why not.

 

[EOTL]

Agree- but my answer is going to be that the state needs to figure out how to vaccinate them in parallel. If we're so concerned with optics, (which is what a lot of all this really is,) it looks awful to prioritize prisons over general population.

Complying with the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a wee bit more important than magat optics.

 

[happy9]

Complying with the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a wee bit more important than magat optics.

Is this opposite day? your trumpy deity is not in office anymore...the new dog and pony show is in town, it's their optics now. I think you need more organic tea.