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EOTL said:
Gavin Newsom had dinner with a lobbyist who has been a friend for a long time, so therefore ok to overthrow the government of the US. And even if lobbying did occur, you do know what lobbyists do right? They lobby. That is the whole point.
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You should just stop...the more you talk, the more evident it is how little you know. Yes, he was out with a good friend, helping him and his friend make a LOT of money. Please realize he doesn't care about you, he is in it for himself and the sooner you realize that the better off you will be.

It is sad to see how brainwashed you have become!! You use to look at things through a clear lense. What has happened to you???
 
NorCalDad said:
Is that what you gleaned from what I wrote? Where did I say anything about it being ok to overthrow a government?

Lobbyists are inherently bad. The politicians represent those interests as opposed to their constituents. And people wonder why the government isn't working for them. As much as I'm going to get slammed for this here, AOC and Bernie are pretty much the only politicians that are actually trying to work for the people.
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Magats are inherently bad. Lobbying is a job. And an important one.
 
EOTL said:
Magats are inherently bad. Lobbying is a job. And an important one.
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Like lobbying to legalize marijuana so you, and your "friend for a long time," can make a LOT of money...yes, true, that is very important and once again I am sure he did that in YOUR best interest. Because Newsom cares about YOU
 
EOTL said:
Yes, he is trying to save lives, and there is no legitimate debate otherwise. The fact that you are discussing his sex life years ago as “evidence” that he is trying to benefit personally from covid social distancing regulations says a lot about your brainwashing.
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Putting aside your obvious lean - and yes, I agree he's trying to save lives (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt).

The question is is he doing a good enough job in comparison to his peers in similar states. And by lives I mean all lives, like lives associated with business, lives associated with shutting down schools and making socio-economic issues worse, lives in regards to forcing businesses to shutter, causing job loss. Rate his performance. What could he be doing better?

I know you don't have a non-partisan bone in your body, but try. You agree with the lockdowns, you agree with no schools, no youth sports? Even though there is mounting evidence that shows that none of this is effective and only makes it worse for the targets of these lockdowns? Even king cuomo is backpedaling. NYC is in a bad way, a real bad way. I know that LA and SF are becoming business deserts for many industries. TX and FL on the other hand, businesses are much healthier, communities and neighborhoods are getting along. And yes, CV19 is a persistent presence, but life cannot shut down for people like you. Their lives matter just as much as grandma and grandpa, and others.

I suspect that you don't run a business, or run one that is -19 immune (there are plenty). So, maybe, no MAGAT retort and apply some intellect into a response. Or not. Cuz if you don't, we'll all laugh at you.
 
soccersc said:
You should just stop...the more you talk, the more evident it is how little you know. Yes, he was out with a good friend, helping him and his friend make a LOT of money. Please realize he doesn't care about you, he is in it for himself and the sooner you realize that the better off you will be.

It is sad to see how brainwashed you have become!! You use to look at things through a clear lense. What has happened to you???
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Newson goes to a birthday dinner for someone he has known for more than 20 years, and it’s wrong because he happens to be a lobbyist?

Y’all were claiming he was implementing social distancing regulations for personal gain, and your “proof” is that he had dinner with a friend who happens to be a lobbyist and also had an affair many years ago. And keep trying to pretend that your magat master didn’t f**k a stripper when his wife was pregnant.
 
EOTL said:
Newson goes to a birthday dinner for someone he has known for more than 20 years, and it’s wrong because he happens to be a lobbyist?

Y’all were claiming he was implementing social distancing regulations for personal gain, and your “proof” is that he had dinner with a friend who happens to be a lobbyist and also had an affair many years ago. And keep trying to pretend that your magat master didn’t f**k a stripper when his wife was pregnant.
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I don't really care if he goes out to dinner or if he had an affair yesterday...doesn't affect me one bit. You were saying he has YOUR best interest in mind and I am telling you, he doesn't. Every decision he makes has a calculated outcome that is meant to help promote himself. Perhaps it does help save lives, but don't try and believe for one minute he's doing it for YOU, he is all about himself, so don't get that confused.
 
EOTL said:
Can you please explain how his sex life years ago proves that his social distancing regulations benefit him financially Mr. Magat?

If Newsom’s sex life makes him incapable of making rational decisions, what about f**king a stripper when your wife is pregnant?
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Proves that in both examples the individuals are self-interested narcissists.
 
happy9 said:
Putting aside your obvious lean - and yes, I agree he's trying to save lives (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt).

The question is is he doing a good enough job in comparison to his peers in similar states. And by lives I mean all lives, like lives associated with business, lives associated with shutting down schools and making socio-economic issues worse, lives in regards to forcing businesses to shutter, causing job loss. Rate his performance. What could he be doing better?

I know you don't have a non-partisan bone in your body, but try. You agree with the lockdowns, you agree with no schools, no youth sports? Even though there is mounting evidence that shows that none of this is effective and only makes it worse for the targets of these lockdowns? Even king cuomo is backpedaling. NYC is in a bad way, a real bad way. I know that LA and SF are becoming business deserts for many industries. TX and FL on the other hand, businesses are much healthier, communities and neighborhoods are getting along. And yes, CV19 is a persistent presence, but life cannot shut down for people like you. Their lives matter just as much as grandma and grandpa, and others.

I suspect that you don't run a business, or run one that is -19 immune (there are plenty). So, maybe, no MAGAT retort and apply some intellect into a response. Or not. Cuz if you don't, we'll all laugh at you.
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Hey trumpanzees! Check out @happy9 making actual legitimate arguments.

You do know that this particular round of magat craziness started when I said there is no debate that he is trying to save lives even if you disagree with his means and effectiveness. That’s not even the least bit controversial a point. That was followed with a bunch of magat insanity in which a couple trumpanzee conspiracy theorists claimed that he’s actually doing it for personal gain. And that he had an affair. And dinner with a friend. And calling Kamala Harris a whore, because magats can’t help but throw in some gratuitous racism and misogyny. All very compelling proof that magats are incapable of rational debate.

Your legitimate points don’t matter here amd are a waste if time, because magats refuse to even recognize that he’s trying to save lives even - as I said earlier - if you disagree with the means or effectiveness. It is not possible to have a real debate with a magat, so let’s get back to all they’re capable of understanding, which is humiliation and losing.
 
EOTL said:
Can you please explain how his sex life years ago proves that his social distancing regulations benefit him financially Mr. Magat?

If Newsom’s sex life makes him incapable of making rational decisions, what about f**king a stripper when your wife is pregnant?
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His social distancing regulations wouldn’t benefit him because, just like his Auntie, the rules don’t apply to him. The rest of us better obey, though.

You wanted Trump impeached, hypocrite. Time to recall Governor slimeball.
 
soccersc said:
I don't really care if he goes out to dinner or if he had an affair yesterday...doesn't affect me one bit. You were saying he has YOUR best interest in mind and I am telling you, he doesn't. Every decision he makes has a calculated outcome that is meant to help promote himself. Perhaps it does help save lives, but don't try and believe for one minute he's doing it for YOU, he is all about himself, so don't get that confused.
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BS. I said he’s trying to save lives, even if you disagree with his means or effectiveness. Nothing more. You’re just blinded by your hatred.

Imposing social distancing regulations that hurt the economy, hurt his personal finances, and are resulting in a recall effort that hurts his political future doesn’t sound at all like he is doing this for himself. Or is he playing 4D chess?
 
EOTL said:
Newson goes to a birthday dinner for someone he has known for more than 20 years, and it’s wrong because he happens to be a lobbyist?

Y’all were claiming he was implementing social distancing regulations for personal gain, and your “proof” is that he had dinner with a friend who happens to be a lobbyist and also had an affair many years ago. And keep trying to pretend that your magat master didn’t f**k a stripper when his wife was pregnant.
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No, that’s not what we said. Try again, Emperor.
 
EOTL said:
Hey trumpanzees! Check out @happy9 making actual legitimate arguments.

You do know that this particular round of magat craziness started when I said there is no debate that he is trying to save lives even if you disagree with his means and effectiveness. That’s not even the least bit controversial a point. That was followed with a bunch of magat insanity in which a couple trumpanzee conspiracy theorists claimed that he’s actually doing it for personal gain. And that he had an affair. And dinner with a friend. And calling Kamala Harris a whore, because magats can’t help but throw in some gratuitous racism and misogyny. All very compelling proof that magats are incapable of rational debate.

Your legitimate points don’t matter here amd are a waste if time, because magats refuse to even recognize that he’s trying to save lives even - as I said earlier - if you disagree with the means or effectiveness. It is not possible to have a real debate with a magat, so let’s get back to all they’re capable of understanding, which is humiliation and losing.
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Most every reasonable person on these boards believe he is trying to save lives. Many of us, though, believe he's not going about it correctly. There are some dudes here that wouldn't surprise me if they were in DC on 1/6. Those folks I have muted and are generally in the minority.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
His social distancing regulations wouldn’t benefit him because, just like his Auntie, the rules don’t apply to him. The rest of us better obey, though.

You wanted Trump impeached, hypocrite. Time to recall Governor slimeball.
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I get it, he’s imposed these rules on everyone else so he can cut the line at the French Laundry.

Newsom didn’t incite and insurrection and the overthrow of the government. But I totally get how you’d equate that to having dinner with a friend to celebrate his birthday. It is because magats are stupid.
 
EOTL said:
BS. I said he’s trying to save lives, even if you disagree with his means or effectiveness. Nothing more. You’re just blinded by your hatred.

Imposing social distancing regulations that hurt the economy, hurt his personal finances, and are resulting in a recall effort that hurts his political future doesn’t sound at all like he is doing this for himself. Or is he playing 4D chess?
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I don't really care what he does...I have come to the realization months ago that these restrictions aren't going away anytime soon...but I also realize politicians are in it for one reason, themselves. It is their job, they don't do it for the people, they do it because that is how they get paid and make a living. A pretty good living I might add. I just have to know though, do you really think Newsom has YOUR best interest in mind when he makes the decisions he does or perhaps does he have ulterior motives that will eventually lead to benefiting himself?
 
Scott m Shurson said:
He needs to be recalled for who he is, his dishonesty and hypocrisy and how poorly he’s handled all of this. You know... the same way Dems went after Trump.

Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
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When Newsom stands in front of a mob and encourages it to sack the statehouse, you’ll have my signature on the recall petition.

For now, the GOP is doing their best to make people like me into Democrats. And, in states from Georgia to Arizona, it’s working.

Trump is doing to the national GOP what Pete Wilson did to the CA GOP. And you all are so busy shoveling more coal into the boiler you haven’t even noticed the train wreck.
 
EOTL said:
I get it, he’s imposed these rules on everyone else so he can cut the line at the French Laundry.

Newsom didn’t incite and insurrection and the overthrow of the government. But I totally get how you’d equate that to having dinner with a friend to celebrate his birthday. It is because magats are stupid.
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Neither did Trump, but if he did, he did it after he was impeached for winning.

You just fall deeper and deeper. It’s because you’re the stupid guy trying to convince everyone else he isn’t stupid.
 
dad4 said:
When Newsom stands in front of a mob and encourages it to sack the statehouse, you’ll have my signature on the recall petition.

For now, the GOP is doing their best to make people like me into Democrats. And, in states from Georgia to Arizona, it’s working.

Trump is doing to the national GOP what Pete Wilson did to the CA GOP. And you all are so busy shoveling more coal into the boiler you haven’t even noticed the train wreck.
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What exactly do you think Trump said? And was it any worse than Kamala saying she hoped the protesters continued their violent protest in Kenosha because it was “a movement”?
 
soccersc said:
I don't really care what he does...I have come to the realization months ago that these restrictions aren't going away anytime soon...but I also realize politicians are in it for one reason, themselves. It is their job, they don't do it for the people, they do it because that is how they get paid and make a living. A pretty good living I might add. I just have to know though, do you really think Newsom has YOUR best interest in mind when he makes the decisions he does or perhaps does he have ulterior motives that will eventually lead to benefiting himself?
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When you decide all politicians are only in it for themselves, it makes you part of the problem. There is a huge difference between corrupt politicians who are in it for their own benefit (Cadet Bone Spurs) and those who are not, but with whom you disagree on policies. It is this kind of cynicism that leads people to ignore facts and truth. It is an excuse for you to be intellectually lazy. You don’t want to put in the effort to have legitimate discussions about important policy issues, or figure out what is true and what is Q, so you just claim everyone is the same, everyone is corrupt, everyone is in it only for themselves. You’re just a intellectually lazy and dishonest f**k.
 
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