Let Them Play CA

[dad4]

And it's significantly safer to play 10 minutes from your home than to travel every weekend to Arizona and Utah. With that being said, my family has traveled to Arizona on multiple occasions including Surf Cup. For Surf Cup, my kids played 8 games over 4 days during a huge spike in infections and none of the kids on the teams have gotten Covid as a result of soccer.

No one has done a study large enough to evaluate whether on field covid transmission does or does not exist. Or, if it does exist, what the odds are.

Your statement is, essentially, “ I dealt one card from a deck. It wasn’t the queen of spades. Therefore the deck has no queen of spades.”

I happen to believe that on field transmission is a relatively low risk, the drive and hotel are medium risk, and the restaurant dinner is a high risk. But only the restaurant part has strong data behind it.

 

[texanincali]

Oh lord. Yes, if you wear the wrong masks, I can see how that might be a problem. But even as a fake lawyer, you should know that a post from a twitter account titled “letthemplay” that is unsupported by any support for their assertion, let alone a medical study, is a pathetic magaty way to spread ridiculous self-serving false propaganda. How hard and long did you have to google to find anything that told you what you wanted to hear? Probably a long tome since you claim you don’t even have twitter. I’m sure it would have been much easier to find nonsense if Parler were still a thing.

A better, legitimate source would be something like:

Face masks don't hinder breathing during exercise, study finds

A new study has found that exercise performance and blood and muscle oxygen levels are not affected for healthy individuals wearing a face mask during strenuous workouts.

www.sciencedaily.com

Awesome, 14 participants riding a stationary bike for 6 to 12 minutes.
or this:

Safety & Efficacy of Masks & Face Coverings During Exercise - Health & Fitness Association

Updated February 12, 2021. As the COVID-19 pandemic—including new, more transmissible variants—continues to spread, health authorities emphasize the importance of wearing masks or cloth face coverings in indoor settings, and even crowded outdoor settings. This is because masks can be an...

www.ihrsa.org

WHO recommends no mask when exercising.

or this:

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

www.webmd.com

Same study as the first one, 14 adults on a stationary bike.
or this:

Redirect Notice

Same bike study.

or this:

All About Masks and Coronavirus

Does mask protect you from the coronavirus? Learn more about masks and how to stay safe in this pandemic.

www.umms.org

or this:

Tips for wearing a mask while exercising

You might think a mask is a barrier to working out. Read these FAQ to help you figure out the safest approach to staying active.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

Of your six links, 3 are from a stationary bike test for 6-12 minutes. Two specifically say to take precaution during strenuous exercise and one I have no clue the point you were trying to make.

You're going to need to do more than google "mask while exercising" and pasting the first six links you see. What a train wreck of a post. You are an absolutely shambolic poster and really add zero value to this board. You position yourself as some kind of intellectual when the reality is your posts vividly display otherwise.

Do you not understand the difference between exercise and sport? Is that a tough concept to grasp? I am sure you don't have any issues when wearing a mask during your yoga session, but to compare exercise to sport is lunacy at best. You want to wear a mask in a volleyball match, fine. You want to wear one is a baseball game, fine. I doubt there would much issue with these sports that don't require the level of aerobic performance as say, soccer, basketball, cross country, etc.

Can you just stop with the disingenuousness you bring to this forum? I can't speak for everyone, but you have been a complete disaster for months and are a shockingly bad poster.

 

[TOSDCI]

Did they not get it, or are they not showing symptoms? Did they all get tested? How many of them, like you, concluded that they didn’t have covid and are therefore acting accordingly? How many of them quarantined for 14 days upon returning?

Ummm....we were tested and all were negative. Good try though!

 

[TOSDCI]

No one has done a study large enough to evaluate whether on field covid transmission does or does not exist. Or, if it does exist, what the odds are.

Your statement is, essentially, “ I dealt one card from a deck. It wasn’t the queen of spades. Therefore the deck has no queen of spades.”

I happen to believe that on field transmission is a relatively low risk, the drive and hotel are medium risk, and the restaurant dinner is a high risk. But only the restaurant part has strong data behind it.

Here you go.....https://ortho.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/COVID-19-in-Youth-Soccer.pdf

 

[EOTL]

Ummm....we were tested and all were negative. Good try though!

That’s good. I am glad your child’s team handled it as they did. If only most others did the same.

 

[EOTL]

Of your six links, 3 are from a stationary bike test for 6-12 minutes. Two specifically say to take precaution during strenuous exercise and one I have no clue the point you were trying to make.

You're going to need to do more than google "mask while exercising" and pasting the first six links you see. What a train wreck of a post. You are an absolutely shambolic poster and really add zero value to this board. You position yourself as some kind of intellectual when the reality is your posts vividly display otherwise.

Do you not understand the difference between exercise and sport? Is that a tough concept to grasp? I am sure you don't have any issues when wearing a mask during your yoga session, but to compare exercise to sport is lunacy at best. You want to wear a mask in a volleyball match, fine. You want to wear one is a baseball game, fine. I doubt there would much issue with these sports that don't require the level of aerobic performance as say, soccer, basketball, cross country, etc.

Can you just stop with the disingenuousness you bring to this forum? I can't speak for everyone, but you have been a complete disaster for months and are a shockingly bad poster.

You’re criticizing my posts on comparison to an unsupported twitter post from an account that you cam tell from the name is biased? Sure. Rationalize however you want.

 

[watfly]

and the restaurant dinner is a high risk. But only the restaurant part has strong data behind it.

Nope actually that's not true. Very little evidence that restaurants are high risk, particularly outdoors dining. That's why an LA judge and SD judge ruled against certain restrictions on restaurants. While you might be able to argue that there isn't strong evidence that its safe, to say that there is strong data that its high risk is patently false.

Has Restaurants' Role in Spreading COVID-19 Been Exaggerated?

The evidence is limited and mixed, but data from New York, Minnesota, and California suggest that restaurants there account for a small share of infections.

reason.com

 

[EOTL]

Nope actually that's not true. Very little evidence that restaurants are high risk, particularly outdoors dining. That's why an LA judge and SD judge ruled against certain restrictions on restaurants. While you might be able to argue that there isn't strong evidence that its safe, to say that there is strong data that its high risk is patently false.

This is so great. Nothing is high risk, so everything must be fine. So weird, though, that 400,000 people have died as a result of old people all spreading it from their nursing home beds.

 

[socalkdg]

No one has done a study large enough to evaluate whether on field covid transmission does or does not exist. Or, if it does exist, what the odds are.

Your statement is, essentially, “ I dealt one card from a deck. It wasn’t the queen of spades. Therefore the deck has no queen of spades.”

I happen to believe that on field transmission is a relatively low risk, the drive and hotel are medium risk, and the restaurant dinner is a high risk. But only the restaurant part has strong data behind it.

They have done studies on inside and outside transmission of covid. Outside is safer by 18.7 times. Yes, none of these studies are perfect but at least they are applying science.

Not sure why the drive isn't safe, it is after all, only our family. The hotel could be an issue and why choosing a place to stay with outside entrances instead of a casino type place with indoor entrances is actually preferred. Finally get all food to go, which is happening every place in California already. Lastly let the kids play locally outside and you will see less travelling and happier people and no affect on virus numbers.

Outdoor Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and Other Respiratory Viruses: A Systematic Review

This systematic review found that while outdoor environments do seem at lower risk for transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other respiratory viruses than indoor

academic.oup.com

 

[texanincali]

You’re criticizing my posts on comparison to an unsupported twitter post from an account that you cam tell from the name is biased? Sure. Rationalize however you want.

Biased? As crazy as it sounds, we can probably agree that anything around this subject is biased. I really don't think anyone needs a study to determine whether or not wearing a mask during a soccer game is detrimental. The answer is quite obvious. Did you know that the original recommendation from the NCAA was to make soccer teams train in their masks? After numerous training staffs and coaching staffs told the NCAA there is no way they would make the players do that, the NCAA changed its stance.

I can't believe you think its far fetched that playing soccer in a mask is detrimental. Maybe the reason there isn't much data on this is because no one is willing to volunteer for something so stupid.

 

[Kicker4Life]

This is so great. Nothing is high risk, so everything must be fine. So weird, though, that 400,000 people have died as a result of old people all spreading it from their nursing home beds.

So weird that you have ZERO evidence to support your claims of Outdoor ANYTHING transmitting Covid....so you predictably, systematically go straight to how many people have died with Covid thinking that is going to somehow change a point of view that is supported by science.

I predict the next move is some sort of insult....tick tock....

 

[EOTL]

Biased? As crazy as it sounds, we can probably agree that anything around this subject is biased. I really don't think anyone needs a study to determine whether or not wearing a mask during a soccer game is detrimental. The answer is quite obvious. Did you know that the original recommendation from the NCAA was to make soccer teams train in their masks? After numerous training staffs and coaching staffs told the NCAA there is no way they would make the players do that, the NCAA changed its stance.

I can't believe you think its far fetched that playing soccer in a mask is detrimental. Maybe the reason there isn't much data on this is because no one is willing to volunteer for something so stupid.

Nice use of the word “detrimental”, since that is very different than “dangerous”. Of course a mask will be detrimental to effectiveness, butnthere is nothing that suggests wearing an appropriate mask during exercise is dangerous. Also nice attempt to just ignore every actual study by every actual reputable source that it is not dangerous. Also nice circular argument that no one will volunteer for a study to determine whether something might be dangerous because it is dangerous. Especially when there have been numerous volunteers in numerous studies. This is just more anti-science denialism. Too bad the unsupported twitter post that you’re relying on that is contrary to what every reputable source is saying isn’t going to get what you want. And don’t tell me the Mayo Clinic, Science Daily, the IHRSA, WebMD, and the University of Maryland are biased. Bulls**t. You’re just another anti-science denialist who doesn’t lime what science and scientists say, you’re going to side with a tweet from an entity you’ve never heard of and whose name tells you exactly what agenda it has.

You seem like the type of person the believes the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism and spend hours on the net until you find a whackadoo who said it on twitter tocreinforce the crazy thing you already believed.

 

[EOTL]

So weird that you have ZERO evidence to support your claims of Outdoor ANYTHING transmitting Covid....so you predictably, systematically go straight to how many people have died with Covid thinking that is going to somehow change a point of view that is supported by science.

I predict the next move is some sort of insult....tick tock....

That’s great. It’s impossible to spread covid outdoors! Is it because the sunlight gets inside you like the Mango Magat says? Give me a break.

 

[mccorn]

I come on this site occasionally to see if there's anything pertinent to the state of youth soccer. Sadly, I can't find anything worth my time among all of the redundant dribble coming from a few people with nothing better to do than repeat the same personal opinions over and over.

 

[WestOfFive]

I come on this site occasionally to see if there's anything pertinent to the state of youth soccer. Sadly, I can't find anything worth my time among all of the redundant dribble coming from a few people with nothing better to do than repeat the same personal opinions over and over.

Wayne retires..........Manager for Derby...........

 

[texanincali]

Nice use of the word “detrimental”, since that is very different than “dangerous”. Of course a mask will be detrimental to effectiveness, butnthere is nothing that suggests wearing an appropriate mask during exercise is dangerous. Also nice attempt to just ignore every actual study by every actual reputable source that it is not dangerous. Also nice circular argument that no one will volunteer for a study to determine whether something might be dangerous because it is dangerous. Especially when there have been numerous volunteers in numerous studies. This is just more anti-science denialism. Too bad the unsupported twitter post that you’re relying on that is contrary to what every reputable source is saying isn’t going to get what you want. And don’t tell me the Mayo Clinic, Science Daily, the IHRSA, WebMD, and the University of Maryland are biased. Bulls**t. You’re just another anti-science denialist who doesn’t lime what science and scientists say, you’re going to side with a tweet from an entity you’ve never heard of and whose name tells you exactly what agenda it has.

You seem like the type of person the believes the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism and spend hours on the net until you find a whackadoo who said it on twitter tocreinforce the crazy thing you already believed.

Lots of speculation on your part, but seems par for the course. I'd be interested in your posts if it wasn't the same regurgitated drivel.

We are just asking you to do better. Give some effort. Earth is round. For the record, I'm not siding with some tweet, I'm siding with logic.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

Has anyone seen that Magat Jr. is being investigated for misusing daddy’s inaugural funds.

Anyone wanna guess what he spent it on (besides coke, which is too easy)?

Is coke too easy? Asking for a Hunter Biden.

 

[EOTL]

Lots of speculation on your part, but seems par for the course. I'd be interested in your posts if it wasn't the same regurgitated drivel.

We are just asking you to do better. Give some effort. Earth is round. For the record, I'm not siding with some tweet, I'm siding with logic.

If you want to do better, start by listening to medical experts and not twitter posts by “letthemplay”.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

As much as you snowflakes would love a safe space where you can constantly complain about social distancing requirements and demand the recall of Governor Newsom, too bad. If y’all are gonna demand Newsom’s recall and blame liberals for whatever next thing you lost, I think it’s perfectly fair to discuss Cadet Bone Spurs as well. Have you ever once discussed soccer at this soccer forum?

Have you?

 

[EOTL]

Is coke too easy? Asking for a Hunter Biden.

I think you meant Donny Depends Jr.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

I think you meant Donny Depends Jr.

You’re right... Hunter loves crack. Well, that and tapping his dead brother’s widow. No wonder he took the job in Ukraine. Anything for daddy’s approval.

Such moral high ground from the libtards.